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      <title>dreaming of a scanner darkly</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;o.k. i just woke up from a crazy ass dream where i was wit this girl i never met but she was my girlfreind. we had sex &amp;amp; we totally liked eachother but we didnt trust eachother like i thought she was seeing other guys and she thought i was seeing other girls but we never even left the room. the whole time was in a downtown hotel but mainly in this room had a scanner darkly playing repeatedly on a t.v. &amp;amp; when the movie finished it just started up again. this was on for like two days. i never even saw a scanner darkly &amp;amp; that's the wierdest part of the dream. ive watched the first hour so i kinda remember some of it. in the end i woke up when i left the hotel when my girlfreind was sleeping and i put the key on top of the t.v. which finally turned off! i dont know what the hell its supposed to meant but it was fucked up and sad does anyone else? especially the repeating movie part that was trippy,&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Christian Truth</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Statements of faith have been a frequent topic of discussion in this tribe.  The following remarks, from an email distributed today and published online by Gary Cass of the Christian Anti-Defamantion Commission, provide an exceptionally clear statement of faith and belief in the context of a sharp critique of Barak Obama:
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&lt;br/&gt;Dancing Obama Denies Christ Again
&lt;br/&gt;by Gary Cass
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&lt;br/&gt;In a recent article about Obama's faith, Newsweek reports that Obama reiterated his position that he is a "Christian" who rejects the idea that Jesus is the only way of salvation. Obama throws Christ under his campaign bus as he denies Christ is the only Savior of the World. 
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&lt;br/&gt;"It is a precept of my Christian faith that my redemption comes through Christ, but I am also a big believer in the Golden Rule, which I think is an essential pillar not only of my faith but of my values and my ideals and my experience here on Earth," Newsweeks reports that Obama said. "I've said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals. I do not believe that my mother, who never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know . I do not believe she went to hell. My particular set of beliefs may not be perfectly consistent with the beliefs of other Christians."
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&lt;br/&gt;Obama rightly understands his faith is questionable and not Christian. That's why he says his faith raises questions. But his faith is not only inconsistent with other Christians, it is inconsistent with Jesus Christ and the Apostles. Why would you say you are a Christian then denounce the teachings of Christ and the founders of the Christian Church? While it is very troubling to consider that anyone, especially a family member, might be in Hell, what really matters is what God has revealed, not what Obama wants to be true. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Below are a few examples from the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles that prove salvation comes through Jesus Christ alone.
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&lt;br/&gt;John 3:16-19:  "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. 18 He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."  
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&lt;br/&gt;The scandal of John 3:16 is that a perfectly Holy God would love a world filled with rebellious, guilty sinners. Rev. Samuel Davies, the great apostle to Virginia said, "This earth is a rebellious province of Jehovah's dominions, and therefore if his Son should ever visit it, one would think it would be as an angry judge, or as the executioner of his Father's vengeance. But, O astonishing! God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him might be saved. Hence the terms of life and death are thus fixed. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
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&lt;br/&gt;The problem is man's refusal to admit his true spiritual condition. John 3:36:"He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
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&lt;br/&gt;The only antidote to mankind's death sentence is the blood of Christ shed at the cross.
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&lt;br/&gt;Hebrews 9:22: "without shedding of blood is no remission (of sin)." 
&lt;br/&gt;Lev 17:11: "it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul." 
&lt;br/&gt;No other major world religion provides what a just and Holy God requires: a bloody atonement for sin. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The offence of the cross is threefold! You must humbly admit that God is really who the Bible reveals him to be, perfectly holy. Then you must loathe your sin and humbly confess that you are a guilty sinner, justly condemned and utterly unable to save yourself. You must humbly believe on Jesus Christ alone to save you by his perfect life, atoning death and triumphant resurrection. This is the gospel.
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&lt;br/&gt;Jesus repeatedly taught he was the only source and giver of eternal life.
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&lt;br/&gt;John 5:21: "the Son also gives life to whom He wishes. 23. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him. 24. he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life."
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&lt;br/&gt;John 6:40: "everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life"
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&lt;br/&gt;John 6:47: "he who believes in Me has everlasting life."
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&lt;br/&gt;John 8:12: "I am the Light of the world; he who follows Me will not walk in the darkness."  
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&lt;br/&gt;John 10:9: "I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved."
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&lt;br/&gt;John 10:27&amp;amp;28: "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand."
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&lt;br/&gt;John 14:6: "I am the way, the truth, and the life: No man cometh unto the father, but by me." 
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&lt;br/&gt;John 17:3: "This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent."
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&lt;br/&gt;The Apostles proclaimed that Jesus was the only Savior and Lord, even though by doing so it brought persecution and death.
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&lt;br/&gt;John 6:22f: "You alone have the words of eternal life!"
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&lt;br/&gt;Acts 2:38: "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins."
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&lt;br/&gt;Acts 4:12: "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is no other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."
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&lt;br/&gt;Acts 10:42-43: "It is He who was ordained by God to be Judge of the living and the dead. To Him all the prophets witness that, through His name, whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins."
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&lt;br/&gt;Rom 1:16: "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes. "
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&lt;br/&gt;1 Timothy 2:5-6: "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time."
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&lt;br/&gt;1 John 5:11-12: "And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life."
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&lt;br/&gt;Rev 7:9-12: "After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, saying, 'Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!'" 
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&lt;br/&gt;In the end, no one else receives worship for salvation except God the Son, Jesus Christ, the conquering Lamb- no Buddha, no Mohammed, no Krishna, only Christ.
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&lt;br/&gt;Here is the problem for Obama and those who agree with him. If there was any other way for man to be saved, why would God the Father send His Only Son, the eternal object of his perfect love, to die on a cross? 
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&lt;br/&gt;According to the Bible and historic Christian theology, the death of Christ was absolutely necessary. Otherwise, the harsh life and cruel death of Jesus Christ to save sinners is either a lie or the most horrific act of unnecessary cruelty in history. Christians have always believed faith in Christ was absolutely necessary. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Jesus is the only Savior of the world! To say otherwise is:
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&lt;br/&gt;   to reject the most loving act of all time, God sending his only Son to save sinners; 
&lt;br/&gt;   to deny God's perfect holiness and to minimize our utter sinfulness; 
&lt;br/&gt;   to despise God's righteous laws and to mock God's justice and wrath; 
&lt;br/&gt;   to negate the sublime beauty of Christ's perfect life, atoning death and triumphant resurrection; 
&lt;br/&gt;   to defame Christ as a false prophet; 
&lt;br/&gt;   to nullify the witness and death of Christ's disciples along with all the blood of the martyrs;  
&lt;br/&gt;   to trivialize the sacrifice, evangelism and missionary work of Christ's church of the past 2000 years! 
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&lt;br/&gt;Jesus is the only Savior of the world! To declare this Gospel until the whole world knows is the glory and duty of Christ's church. Either Obama is right and Christ is just a way of salvation, or Christ is right, he is the absolute only way. I recommend the Word's of Christ over the words of any person, especially those of politicians trying to pander to voters.
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.christianadc.org/viewEmailMsg.asp?id=12617&amp;amp;groupId=10524&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Strange lights in sky precede china quake</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Several videos of strange 'aurora' type lights in the day sky minutes before 7.8 earthquake in China.
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&lt;br/&gt;http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8LMvqT7Hjw
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&lt;br/&gt;Is this evidence of HAARP?&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>2012 Doomsday</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;The countdown is on as the planet's rotation stops due to galactic alignment!  Volcanos, earthquakes and extreme weather threaten life on the planet as we know it!!!    
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&lt;br/&gt;2012 Doomsday
&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6489919106977214470&amp;amp;q=2012&amp;amp;ei=WXmBSMbdJoyarAO86YmcBQ
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&lt;br/&gt;Has some stuff about mayans and a pregnant lady giving birth.  Some kind of christian propoganda.  
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&lt;br/&gt;Enjoy!&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>2012 and beyond: SOLUTIONS vs JUSTICE</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;of course, predication prefaces;
&lt;br/&gt;for those that SURVIVE till 2012 
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&lt;br/&gt;9-11...
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&lt;br/&gt;money
&lt;br/&gt;food
&lt;br/&gt;oil
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&lt;br/&gt;HEALTH&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>indepth interview on Iran</title>
      <link>http://2012.tribe.net/thread/038c75c7-b9ea-4bd5-a342-86655ce5e643</link>
      <description>&lt;div&gt;with former CIA head who really knows his stuff, they talk about how Bush and his admin have completly it all wrong, that a war with Iran would be economic sucide for America, etc, 
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&lt;br/&gt;very interesing as the CIA is moderate, matter of fact and seems to have very good knowloedge of the complex polotics in Iran
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00crphh &lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;for all them who count ;D&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:14:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>What have you changed your mind about and why?</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;There is a precedent for this interesting question on a challenging web page called The Edge.
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.edge.org/q2008/q08_index.html
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&lt;br/&gt;My initial response is numerology and the incredible pervasiveness of number.  
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&lt;br/&gt;My first exposure to numerology about 15 years ago compelled me to react with the ever sophisticated cry, "That's B.S."  Now I see number patterns everywhere particularly in relation to special geometries.  
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&lt;br/&gt;The geometries serve as emotional bridges to help the ego get beyond itself. Geometries that self-activate and 'hold the field'.  These notions are embedded in belief systems, books and poetry, art and buildings and though they seem hidden, the idea is to discover for oneself...which mirrors life.  
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&lt;br/&gt;Numerology is about far more than the study of numbers, but a profound medium that is situated just on the other side of an infinitely thin membrane that separates us from a true sense of wholeness.  
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&lt;br/&gt;You need not understand mathematics or numbers to understand the essence of numerology.  These numbers and shapes mirror emotions and show us that emotion is the meaning of our physical lives.  To master emotions, governed by love, is the diploma we seek.  
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&lt;br/&gt;It's interesting that diplomacy is a word that suggests a person's ability to remain compassionate and respectful in a public forum.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>The shape of Convergence...</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;I found this 1999 article by David Wilcock which displays his usual clarity on this complex subject.  It's a perfect example too of the meaninglessness of origin beyond linear time and polarized thought.  Is this translated, channeled information?  It does not matter.  How do you feel about it now?
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.dprins.demon.nl/convergence/convintro.html
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&lt;br/&gt;An excerpt:
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&lt;br/&gt;"Briefly, "Convergence" comes as a result of understanding that our solar system operates in 25,920-year cycles, and that at the end of each cycle is a frequency or energetic shift. These shifts affect the energetic structure of the Earth, or the Global Grid, by forcing it to realign. And hence, you have the "pole shift" phenomenon that is often referred to in metaphysical circles. As indicated from the Mayan Calendar and many other sources, we are now into the end phase of this entire 25,920-year cycle of human civilization, and we can expect a fantastic and highly exciting transformation of ourselves and our planet in the very near future as a result.
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&lt;br/&gt;We have also "rediscovered" the underlying physics of these multidimensional systems in the universe. Most importantly, we come to understand that the "dimensions" are actually frequencies of light, sound and geometry, and that they are organized into an octave structure. So, each dimension has a "color" in the visible light spectrum, a "sound" in the musical octave and a geometry. The geometries in question are all sphere-based, harmonic structures, commonly known as the Platonic solids - the simplest three-dimensional shapes in the Universe. For each of the Platonic solids, all sides, faces and angle ratios are identical, and they will all fit perfectly inside of a sphere.
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&lt;br/&gt;As the "strings" of Light continue to expand and vibrate in a spiraling motion from a unified center point, they will retain the shape of a spherical field, since they are all moving at a simultaneous speed - the true "unit velocity" or speed of Light. However, certain "force points" or nodes will form where there will be greater strengths of energy concentration, due to the strings overlapping each other at set harmonic periods. The straight lines of force that are formed as these "nodes" pull on each other then assemble into each of the sphere-based Platonic Solids as you progress through the frequencies. Physicist Buckminster Fuller demonstrated this same vibratory principle through numerous experiments of his.
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&lt;br/&gt;And so, the structure of the "consciousness units" could be thought of as an expanding and contracting sphere of Light that ratchets through different geometric "frequencies" along the way. The speed of this ratcheting motion is unbelievably fast, at least to us in the third dimension: it occurs at the true speed of Light, which is actually much faster than what we can measure in third-dimensional space-time.
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&lt;br/&gt;We then must visualize the fact that even though each "unit" is constantly pulsating throughout the entire octave of frequencies, any entity living in a certain focus or a certain dimension will only be aware of their own particular frequency. In other words, we in the third dimension have the color yellow, tone of "G" or 360 cycles per second and the geometry of the octahedron, or two Egyptian pyramids connected at their bottoms. Although the CUs making up our physical reality continue to pulsate throughout the entire octave, we will perceive only those moments when the CUs are in the third "Yellow G Octahedron" position. We simply do not vibrate fast enough (normally speaking) to detect the other dimensional frequencies existing all around us! It is similar to a fluorescent light bulb, which is "off" as much as it is on, but it pulsates so quickly that we only perceive visible light."&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:19:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Flight 11: Bigger than Ben Hur</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Flight 11
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&lt;br/&gt;This footage of Flighty 11 we have seen replayed endlessly is unique
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im9nwTXsJh0
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&lt;br/&gt;How did the unique filming of Flight 11 come to be taken? Turns out that’s quite a story. I've found this guy's angle (that it is beyond credulity that this happened seredipitously for many reasons) more convincing than hours of footage and complex argument regarding the actual impact/lack of.)
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&lt;br/&gt;&gt;&gt;On 11 September 2001, someone flew a Boeing 767 jet -- height 52 feet, wingspan 156 feet -- into the upper floors of one of the most famous tourist attractions in New York and the world, the joint tallest building in the biggest city in the USA, the North Tower of the World Trade Center, in broad daylight, in front of a potential audience of millions. 
&lt;br/&gt;But only three people in the entire city captured any kind of photographic image of that plane, and only one of those captured film of the plane actually hitting the building. But that one person captured the plane hitting the top third of the north face of that building, when he could only properly see the top third of the north face of that building (i.e. if the plane had hit any of the other 92%, he could not have filmed the impact).
&lt;br/&gt;Jules Naudet was the only person to film the first plane event. Mr. Naudet just happened to be a guest of the Fire Department of New York. Specifically, Chief Joseph Pfeifer, Battalion 1, responsibile for the whole Lower Manhattan area, including the World Trade Center. The photographer and his brother, Jules Naudet, had just been filming the Chief in the street as the jet flew overhead.&amp;amp;lt;&amp;amp;lt;
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&lt;br/&gt;There are so many factors that had to come together to create this film. I agree that it was absolutely necessary for tbtb to make this film. Indeed the entire purpose of the Twin Towers Impact was the film that was being created. The greatest propaganda piece of all time.
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=7547&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Just came across this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRQYan_-CTQ&amp;amp;feature=PlayList&amp;amp;p=12526051A85D9333&amp;amp;index=6
&lt;br/&gt;everyone already knows about this ? Its news to me.
&lt;br/&gt;Maybe because I don't watch tv.
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      <title>Roswell Rock depicts crop circle formation</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hunter in New Mexico finds a rock thats 'ingraved/ embossed' with design identical to crop circle formation in 1997 england.  Depicts moon phases and has some annomolous magnetic properties.
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1446&amp;amp;category=Environment&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>DAY OUT OF TIME Byron Bay, Special Guest - Valum Votan / Jose Arguelles</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;DAY OUT OF TIME 2008
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&lt;br/&gt;RETURN TO NATURAL TIME
&lt;br/&gt;13 Moons of Peace
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&lt;br/&gt;Raw Food Event!!
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&lt;br/&gt;Aboriginal Sunset Fire Ceremony
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&lt;br/&gt;Ceremony of Universal Love and Forgiveness on behalf of the Whole Earth
&lt;br/&gt;With special guest speaker
&lt;br/&gt;Jose Arguelles-Valum Votan
&lt;br/&gt;Closer of the Cycle
&lt;br/&gt;The Earth and Myself are One Mind
&lt;br/&gt;The Coming of the Noosphere
&lt;br/&gt;Galactic Vibrations of Love, Peace and Universal Harmony
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:20:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>The Crisis Is Upon Us</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;The Crisis Is Upon Us
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&lt;br/&gt;By: Dr. Ron Paul, U.S. Congressman
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;-- Posted Sunday, 20 July 2008 |  Source: GoldSeek.com
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I have, for the past 35 years, expressed my grave concern for the future of America. The course we have taken over the past century has threatened our liberties, security and prosperity. In spite of these long-held concerns, I have days – growing more frequent all the time – when I'm convinced the time is now upon us that some Big Events are about to occur. These fast-approaching events will not go unnoticed. They will affect all of us. They will not be limited to just some areas of our country. The world economy and political system will share in the chaos about to be unleashed.
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&lt;br/&gt;Though the world has long suffered from the senselessness of wars that should have been avoided, my greatest fear is that the course on which we find ourselves will bring even greater conflict and economic suffering to the innocent people of the world – unless we quickly change our ways.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;America, with her traditions of free markets and property rights, led the way toward great wealth and progress throughout the world as well as at home. Since we have lost our confidence in the principles of liberty, self-reliance, hard work and frugality, and instead took on empire building, financed through inflation and debt, all this has changed. This is indeed frightening and an historic event.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The problem we face is not new in history. Authoritarianism has been around a long time. For centuries, inflation and debt have been used by tyrants to hold power, promote aggression, and provide “bread and circuses” for the people. The notion that a country can afford “guns and butter” with no significant penalty existed even before the 1960s when it became a popular slogan. It was then, though, we were told the Vietnam War and the massive expansion of the welfare state were not problems. The seventies proved that assumption wrong.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Today things are different from even ancient times or the 1970s. There is something to the argument that we are now a global economy. The world has more people and is more integrated due to modern technology, communications, and travel. If modern technology had been used to promote the ideas of liberty, free markets, sound money and trade, it would have ushered in a new golden age – a globalism we could accept.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Instead, the wealth and freedom we now enjoy are shrinking and rest upon a fragile philosophic infrastructure. It is not unlike the levies and bridges in our own country that our system of war and welfare has caused us to ignore.
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&lt;br/&gt;I'm fearful that my concerns have been legitimate and things may even be worse than I first thought. They are now at our doorstep. Time is short for making a course correction before this grand experiment in liberty goes into deep hibernation.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;There are reasons to believe this coming crisis is different and bigger than any the world has ever experienced. Instead of using globalism in a positive fashion, it's been used to globalize all of the mistakes of the politicians, bureaucrats and central bankers.
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&lt;br/&gt;Being an unchallenged sole superpower was never accepted by us with a sense of humility and respect. Our arrogance and aggressiveness have been used to promote a world empire backed by the most powerful army of history. This type of globalist intervention creates problems for all citizens of the world and fails to contribute to the well-being of the world's populations. Just think how our personal liberties have been trashed here at home in the last decade.
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&lt;br/&gt;The financial crisis, still in its early stages, is apparent to everyone: gasoline prices over $4 a gallon; skyrocketing education and medical-care costs; the collapse of the housing bubble; the bursting of the NASDAQ bubble; stock markets plunging; unemployment rising; massive underemployment; excessive government debt; and unmanageable personal debt. Little doubt exists as to whether we'll get stagflation. The question that will soon be asked is: When will the stagflation become an inflationary depression?
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&lt;br/&gt;There are various reasons that the world economy has been globalized and the problems we face are worldwide. We cannot understand what we're facing without understanding fiat money and the long-developing dollar bubble.
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&lt;br/&gt;There were several stages. From the inception of the Federal Reserve System in 1913 to 1933, the Central Bank established itself as the official dollar manager. By 1933, Americans could no longer own gold, thus removing restraint on the Federal Reserve to inflate for war and welfare.
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&lt;br/&gt;By 1945, further restraints were removed by creating the Bretton-Woods Monetary System making the dollar the reserve currency of the world. This system lasted up until 1971. During the period between 1945 and 1971, some restraints on the Fed remained in place. Foreigners, but not Americans, could convert dollars to gold at $35 an ounce. Due to the excessive dollars being created, that system came to an end in 1971.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;It's the post Bretton-Woods system that was responsible for globalizing inflation and markets and for generating a gigantic worldwide dollar bubble. That bubble is now bursting, and we're seeing what it's like to suffer the consequences of the many previous economic errors.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Ironically in these past 35 years, we have benefited from this very flawed system. Because the world accepted dollars as if they were gold, we only had to counterfeit more dollars, spend them overseas (indirectly encouraging our jobs to go overseas as well) and enjoy unearned prosperity. Those who took our dollars and gave us goods and services were only too anxious to loan those dollars back to us. This allowed us to export our inflation and delay the consequences we now are starting to see.
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&lt;br/&gt;But it was never destined to last, and now we have to pay the piper. Our huge foreign debt must be paid or liquidated. Our entitlements are coming due just as the world has become more reluctant to hold dollars. The consequence of that decision is price inflation in this country – and that's what we are witnessing today. Already price inflation overseas is even higher than here at home as a consequence of foreign central banks' willingness to monetize our debt.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Printing dollars over long periods of time may not immediately push prices up – yet in time it always does. Now we're seeing catch-up for past inflating of the monetary supply. As bad as it is today with $4 a gallon gasoline, this is just the beginning. It's a gross distraction to hound away at “drill, drill, drill” as a solution to the dollar crisis and high gasoline prices. It's okay to let the market increase supplies and drill, but that issue is a gross distraction from the sins of deficits and Federal Reserve monetary shenanigans.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;This bubble is different and bigger for another reason. The central banks of the world secretly collude to centrally plan the world economy. I'm convinced that agreements among central banks to “monetize” U.S. debt these past 15 years have existed, although secretly and out of the reach of any oversight of anyone – especially the U.S. Congress that doesn't care, or just flat doesn't understand. As this “gift” to us comes to an end, our problems worsen. The central banks and the various governments are very powerful, but eventually the markets overwhelm them when the people who get stuck holding the bag (of bad dollars) catch on and spend the dollars into the economy with emotional zeal, thus igniting inflationary fever.
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&lt;br/&gt;This time – since there are so many dollars and so many countries involved – the Fed has been able to “paper” over every approaching crisis for the past 15 years, especially with Alan Greenspan as Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, which has allowed the bubble to become history's greatest.
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&lt;br/&gt;The mistakes made with excessive credit at artificially low rates are huge, and the market is demanding a correction. This involves excessive debt, misdirected investments, over-investments, and all the other problems caused by the government when spending the money they should never have had. Foreign militarism, welfare handouts and $80 trillion entitlement promises are all coming to an end. We don't have the money or the wealth-creating capacity to catch up and care for all the needs that now exist because we rejected the market economy, sound money, self-reliance and the principles of liberty.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Since the correction of all this misallocation of resources is necessary and must come, one can look for some good that may come as this “Big Event” unfolds.
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&lt;br/&gt;There are two choices that people can make. The one choice that is unavailable to us is to limp along with the status quo and prop up the system with more debt, inflation and lies. That won't happen.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;One of the two choices, and the one chosen so often by government in the past is that of rejecting the principles of liberty and resorting to even bigger and more authoritarian government. Some argue that giving dictatorial powers to the President, just as we have allowed him to run the American empire, is what we should do. That's the great danger, and in this post-911 atmosphere, too many Americans are seeking safety over freedom. We have already lost too many of our personal liberties. Real fear of economic collapse could prompt central planners to act to such a degree that the New Deal of the 30's might look like Jefferson's Declaration of Independence.
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&lt;br/&gt;The more the government is allowed to do in taking over and running the economy, the deeper the depression gets and the longer it lasts. That was the story of the 30s and the early 40s, and the same mistakes are likely to be made again if we do not wake up.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But the good news is that it need not be so bad if we do the right thing. I saw “Something Big” happening in the past 18 months on the campaign trail. I was encouraged that we are capable of waking up and doing the right thing. I have literally met thousands of high school and college kids who are quite willing to accept the challenge and responsibility of a free society and reject the cradle-to-grave welfare that is promised them by so many do-good politicians.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;If more hear the message of liberty, more will join in this effort. The failure of our foreign policy, welfare system, and monetary policies and virtually all government solutions are so readily apparent, it doesn't take that much convincing. But the positive message of how freedom works and why it's possible is what is urgently needed.
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&lt;br/&gt;One of the best parts of accepting self-reliance in a free society is that true personal satisfaction with one's own life can be achieved. This doesn't happen when the government assumes the role of guardian, parent or provider, because it eliminates a sense of pride. But the real problem is the government can't provide the safety and economic security that it claims. The so-called good that government claims it can deliver is always achieved at the expense of someone else's freedom. It's a failed system and the young people know it.
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&lt;br/&gt;Restoring a free society doesn't eliminate the need to get our house in order and to pay for the extravagant spending. But the pain would not be long-lasting if we did the right things, and best of all the empire would have to end for financial reasons. Our wars would stop, the attack on civil liberties would cease, and prosperity would return. The choices are clear: it shouldn't be difficult, but the big event now unfolding gives us a great opportunity to reverse the tide and resume the truly great American Revolution started in 1776. Opportunity knocks in spite of the urgency and the dangers we face.
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&lt;br/&gt;Let's make “Something Big Is Happening” be the discovery that freedom works and is popular and the big economic and political event we're witnessing is a blessing in disguise.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;July 19, 2008
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&lt;br/&gt;Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;From Information Clearing House at
&lt;br/&gt;   http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20330.htm
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&lt;br/&gt;*Death of Free Internet Is Imminent: Canada Will Become Test Case*
&lt;br/&gt;By Kevin Parkinson
&lt;br/&gt;21/07/08
&lt;br/&gt;   http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&amp;amp;aid=9627
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&lt;br/&gt;"Global Research" -- In the last 15 years or so, as a society we have had access to more information than ever before in modern history because of the Internet.  There are approximately 1 billion Internet users in the world B and any one of these users can theoretically communicate in real time with any other on the planet.  The Internet has been the greatest technological achievement of the 20th century by far, and has been recognized as such by the global community.
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&lt;br/&gt;The free transfer of information, uncensored, unlimited and untainted, still seems to be a dream when you think about it.  Whatever field that is mentioned -- education, commerce, government, news, entertainment, politics, and countless other areas --  have been radically affected by the introduction of the Internet.  And mostly, it's good news, except when poor judgements are made and people are taken advantage of. Scrutiny and oversight are needed, especially where children are involved.
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&lt;br/&gt;However, when there are potential profits open to a corporation, the needs of society don't count.  Take the recent case in Canada with the behemoths, Telus and Rogers, rolling out a charge for text messaging without any warning to the public.  It was an arrogant and risky move for the telecommunications giants because it backfired.  People actually used Internet technology to deliver a loud and clear message to these companies and that was to scrap the extra charge.  The people used the power of the Internet against the big boys and the little guys won.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;However, the issue of text messaging is just a tiny blip on the radar screens of Telus and another company, Bell Canada, the two largest Internet Service Providers (I.S.P.'s) in Canada.  Our country is being used as a test case to drastically change the delivery of Internet service forever.  The change will be so radical that it has the potential to send us back to the horse and buggy days of information sharing and access.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In the upcoming weeks watch for a report in Time Magazine that will attempt to smooth over the rough edges of a diabolical plot by Bell Canada and Telus, to begin charging per site fees on most Internet sites.  The plan is to convert the Internet into a cable-like system, where customers sign up for specific web sites, and then pay to visit sites beyond a cutoff point.
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&lt;br/&gt;From my browsing (on the currently free Internet), I have discovered that the "demise" of the free Internet is slated for 2010 in Canada and, two years later, around the world.  Canada is seen a good choice to implement such shameful and sinister changes, since Canadians are viewed as being laissez fair, politically uninformed and an easy target.  The corporate marauders will iron out the wrinkles in Canada and then spring the new, castrated version of the Internet on the rest of the world, probably with little fanfare, except for some dire warnings about the "evil" of the Internet (free) and the C.E.O.'s spouting about "safety and security."  These buzzwords usually work pretty well.
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&lt;br/&gt;What will the Internet look like in Canada in 2010?  I suspect that the I.S.P.'s will provide a "package" program as companies like Cogeco currently do.  Customers will pay for a series of websites as they do now for their television stations.  Television stations will be available on-line as part of these packages, which will make the networks happy since they have lost much of the younger market which are surfing and chatting on their computers in the evening.  However, as is the case with cable television now, if you choose something that is not part of the package, you know what happens.  You pay extra.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And this is where the Internet (free) as we know it will suffer almost immediate, economic strangulation.  Thousands and thousands of Internet sites will not be part of the package, so users will have to pay extra to visit those sites!  In just an hour or two, it is possible to easily visit 20~30 sites or more while looking for information.  Just imagine how high these costs will be.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;At present, the world condemns China because that country restricts certain websites. "They are undemocratic; they are removing people's freedom; they don't respect individual rights; they are censoring information," are some of the comments we hear.  But, what Bell Canada and Telus have planned for Canadians is much worse than that.  They are planning the death of the Internet (free) as we know it, and I expect they'll be hardly a whimper from Canadians.  It's all part of the corporate plan for a New World Order and virtually a masterstroke that will lead to the creation of billions and billions of dollars of corporate profit at the expense of the working and middle classes.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;There are so many other implications as a result of these changes, far too many to elaborate on here.  Be aware that we will all lose our privacy because all websites will be tracked as part of the billing procedure, and we will be literally cut off from 90% of the information that we can access today.  The little guys on the Net will fall likes flies; Bloggers and small website operators will die a quick death because people will not pay to go to their sites and read their pages.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Ironically, the only medium that can save us is the one we are trying to save -- the Internet (free).  This article will be posted on my Blog:    www.realitycheck.typepad.com
&lt;br/&gt;And I encourage people and groups to learn more about this issue. Canadians can keep the Internet free just as they kept text messaging free.  Don't wait for the federal politicians.  They will do nothing to help us.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I would welcome a letter to the editor of the Standard Freeholder from a spokesperson from Bell Canada or Telus telling me that I am absolutely wrong in what I have written, and that no such changes to the Internet are being planned, and that access to Internet sites will remain FREE in the years to come.  In the meantime, I encourage all of you to write to the media, ask questions, phone the radio station, phone a friend, or think of something else to prevent what appears to me to be inevitable.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Maintaining Internet (free) access is the only way we have a chance at combating the global corporate takeover, the North American Union, and a long list of other deadly deeds that the elite in society have planned for us.  Yesterday was too late in trying to protect our rights and freedoms.  We must now redouble our efforts in order to give our children and grandchildren a fighting chance in the future.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;   ~~~
&lt;br/&gt;Author's website:
&lt;br/&gt;   http://realitycheck.typepad.com/
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;-- 
&lt;br/&gt;...-- End Of Forwarded Message -----
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Tom Krohmer
&lt;br/&gt;Environmental Technologist
&lt;br/&gt;http://toxicreverend.blogspot.com/
&lt;br/&gt;aka
&lt;br/&gt;The Toxic Reverend
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.myspace.com/toxicreverend
&lt;br/&gt;aka
&lt;br/&gt;Justice Is Homeless
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.myspace.com/justiceishomeless
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Database lists illnesses with toxic chemicals
&lt;br/&gt;that can cause them is now linked in with a
&lt;br/&gt;review and comments at :&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;http://people.tribe.net/toxicreverend
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Homicide Charges For Corporations
&lt;br/&gt;(Rough draft posted with active reference links)
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.angelfire.com/nm/redcollarcrime
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Peer Reviewed Medical Journal on Chronic
&lt;br/&gt;Illnesses, cancers and Stealth Infections
&lt;br/&gt;from Bio-weapons of the non-lethal variety
&lt;br/&gt;www.immed.org
&lt;br/&gt;Note:
&lt;br/&gt;The Gulf War Vets have posted
&lt;br/&gt;"Beyond Treason"
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.gulfwarvets.com
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Toxic Revelations; Censored information on
&lt;br/&gt;biological weapons and the health care
&lt;br/&gt;industry The censored rough draft has
&lt;br/&gt;been reposted
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.puppstheories.com/ToxicRevelations/tr.html &lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt; i am curious what your interpretations are of these beings are: (being on the subject of aliens and indians, these come to mind)
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.petroglyphs.us/article_coso_sheep_cult.htm
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&lt;br/&gt;sheep cult, lol!&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>A Lesson from the Lyrebird</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;There is a profoundly sad message in the behavior of this beautiful creature:
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      <title>Messages from the Stars</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Inca Spiritual Messenger, Willaru Huayta
&lt;br/&gt;A lecture given in Peru, September, 1997
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&lt;br/&gt;THIS IS A SMALL PART OF A TRANSCRIPTION OF LECTURES GIVEN BY WILLARU AND TRANLSATED BY ALUNA JOY YAXKIN DURING HER VISIT TO PERU LAST SEPTEMBER 1997.
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&lt;br/&gt;Photo of Willaru Huayta The masters sent me to the United States three times. When I finished my last trip I said, "Oh, finally, I finished my mission". But that was my ego talking. When I got home, there came another invitation to the USA. I said "What do I do with this?” I thought I would have to say no, because I have already finished the three trips. So I went into meditation and I said to the masters. "I have already finished my trips. What can I do with these letters. I'm not supposed to go to any more countries in the world." But the masters said, that sometimes we have to keep going once we have started. The three trips were a test. Along the way were many, many tests. I worked with temptation with many different things. Like food, cheeseburgers, hamburgers, banana splits, good American food. I had to come to my inner Father/Mother to really work hard to receive help in these and other things. But at the end it was good, because my Father/Mother was always helping me.
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&lt;br/&gt;When I came back from the USA, I said, "Now I don't want to travel anyplace on planet Earth. Now I will pray to go to the other planets.” But I was too greedy and too ambitious. I am a simple student, who's just beginning. All my desires are just ego. Only great masters can be taken to other planets for interplanetary initiations. But I started working hard to go to the planet Venus. I was eating less meat and all that. I worked a lot with the three steps. I asked them (Venusians) to give me the opportunity to see. I didn't want to go to stay there, because my work is not on Venus. What can I do there? They don't need me there. I have to finish my work here on this planet Earth, not on Venus. This is very important. I only wanted to know, to experience Venus, to compare that civilization with our civilization here. I wanted to bring a little bit of insight for humanity, a little bit. So a test was given.
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&lt;br/&gt;First Impression of Venus... After going past the astral plane, I arrived on Venus at a sea port. Many cosmic ships were there in the ocean. It was very, very alive, like in the sixth dimension. Everything has life, brilliant vibration, very, very delicious life. You feel good. Your spiritual body feels really good. It feels like home. It is something that I do not feel here on Earth. But when I got there, they were waiting for me, the celestial marines. All the boys there were young, because they live eternal life. They have a physical body like us, but live eternal life. They are very young looking, like the age 22, wearing white uniforms like American Marines. They have a blue light, a celestial cape over them. It was very, very nice when I got there. I said "Wow"! I got very emotional. "Wow"! "Finally I'm here"! But it was no good, because it was an inferior type of happiness. So I didn't pass the test of the emotional body. I looked to them like a monkey you give a banana to and they jump with happiness. (Willaru jumps around the room to demonstrates how an excited monkey looks) Something like that. (The group breaks out in laughter) My happiness was still a little bit of an animal nature, but which is natural on planet Earth, being human. They (the Venusians) understand this, so they showed me a little bit more.
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&lt;br/&gt;Government... The first thing, there is no government. There are no palaces or government buildings like the White House, embassies, ministries or anything like that. They have no president. Everyone is their own government. There are no separate countries. Planet Venus is one country. There are no passports, separate flags, separate nationalities, frontiers, borders, all these things. They do not have courts because they are their own judges, their own government, their own lawyers, even their own architects, everything. They have liberated their consciousness from all that. There is no monetary system either. They work for the Father/Mother to build their temple of the Father (points to the mind) and to build the temple of the Mother (points to the heart). Wherever they go, they are home. There is no division between them. Everybody is the army, because everyone is guardian of the planet. There's no Court of Justice there, because there's no ego. Nobody has ego. If there is ego, of course, there is karma. If there's karma, then there are the police, there are judges, and jails. They don't know those things. They have liberated their consciousness a long time ago, and they don't need it. They have no weapons, like machine guns, tanks, airplanes to fight or attack. That is based in fear, and fear is ego. They have finished a long time ago with this.
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&lt;br/&gt;Most of the people on planet Earth say "Perfect communist doesn't exist". But on Venus they say, "To have perfect communism, we have to eliminate the egos". So you see they don't need any political parties to take responsibility for all the material things. The only question is the action of the consciousness. Everyone on Venus is rich spiritually. It was only with the elimination of the egos that they became the perfect society. There's no fighting present because everybody is their own government. Everybody speaks only a little bit, but also every one knows they are masters with different perspectives.
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&lt;br/&gt;The Venusians... They are intelligent. They have created a solar system in their brain. It is different than ours. It is more intelligent and has a larger capacity and is wiser, enlightened, and a higher vibration. They have an aura of love, because all the egos have been transmuted. You know that to be an alchemist brings much privilege. This is why they have a lot of electricity. They can fly also, of course, because they have total control over their vital body, astral body, mental body, causal body and their physical body. They are authentic man with all their faculties and powers. We can call this the kingdom of the supermen. They still have a little of the animal in them, but there is a difference. They are authentic man.
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&lt;br/&gt;RELIGION... The religion is the same as light. It is the light of the life, of the universal cosmic Christ. They see that light everywhere, in the Father/Mother, in the sexual energy. Even when they see the most beautiful woman, they have another mentality, not erotic, like the people on planet Earth. When we see a very attractive girl.... we are a little bit like an animal, you know. But on Venus there is much respect, a respect based in consciousness. This is very important to understand, because life is everywhere, the universal cosmic Christ. The light of the Creation, this is their religion. Religion for them is to be united with the Father/Mother, and to be always in the inner temple. So, they don't need any organized religion. Their life is more solar cosmic universal culture, the culture of Gods. Everyone has all their faculties and powers. They have intuition and telepathic communication. They have the faculties of clairaudiance and clairvoyance. They don't speak so much, like we do here.
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&lt;br/&gt;Their planet is ruled only by 24 laws, not as many laws as on Earth. It is governed by less laws because they have liberated their consciousness totally. Their religion is the three steps of revolution of consciousness. The first step is the elimination of the ego. Although they don't have ego, they still have the root of ego and they are aware of this all the time. They are always cleansing themselves. Their mind is illuminated. Their mind is in service to the Father/Mother, not in the service of the ego anymore.
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&lt;br/&gt;In the second step, every marriage on Venus is based in alchemy. All the marriages are conscious. There is no divorce there, because they are with the Father/Mother. They don't experience those things over there. Everybody knows how to make love. This is the biggest step. A long time ago the Venusians used to live like we do on the planet Earth, but they have grown up psychologically. Only a few people at first began working with the three steps and then there were more, more, more, more, and then at the end, everybody was taking these three steps. Soon everybody was an alchemist. That's why they have skin that is very transparent, shining like a baby's, because they have never wasted their (sexual) energy. (The third step is sacred service and unconditional love)
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&lt;br/&gt;On Medicine... Everyone is a doctor also, a medicine man. And as they walk, they heal their planet. Everyone is a master, and they say "My physical body is not my master. My Father is my master". They are very humble. They are very simple. They have no negative ego. "My Father is the one who knows, I am serving my Father, so I am an eternal servant of my Father/Mother. He/she is the one who is the master, not me". They have no pride. They do not show off. There are no universities, like we have University of Miami, University of London etc. They say these universities are mental only, "Poor people, they suffer so much to learn a little bit, and still it is not useful". It is not complete. There are doctors on Earth that don't know how to heal. Everybody on Venus is a medicine man. They don't need any medicine, because they ARE medicine. Of course, they eat the three foods, the organic foods, food from the air, also food from the impressions of the life, the Cosmic Christ which is there. They radiate with the hands of light, which comes from their Father/Mother that are connected to the superior dimensions. They can heal any kind of illness. So in their spiritual path, they don't have to go to a doctor. As they grow, they are given all the faculties, even to heal the blind, the deaf, and cancer. But there is no illness and there are no hospitals. There's no contamination, because they never use any gasoline, or electricity, or petroleum like on the planet Earth. They have everything there, but they use solar energy. So this is a totally different system.
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&lt;br/&gt;Birth control and family... They know how to make love, so it is not necessary to be taking all those pills, or to use condoms to control the population. These are for when we are not civilized. They know how to make love in the holy way, in the sacred spiritual way. They ask the inner Mother not to have a baby. They ask to have a spiritual baby. That's the most important, not the physical baby. If they want a baby, a physical baby, they ask the inner Mother to have a physical baby and then the physical baby comes. They ask the great master who's in charge of the ray of creation, who's giving that baby the spiritual essence, to connect in the moment to conceive the baby. They don't know abortion.
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&lt;br/&gt;On Earth's modern technology... I asked, "What about the technology on the planet Earth with their machines, computers, airplanes and other technology?" One master said to me "The technology on the planet Earth is mentally retarded technology. You think you are civilized. You think you are on top of the world. What are you thinking when you make trips to the moon? This is a violation of cosmic law. When beings live in the spiritual culture, as they grow in the initiations, they are given the keys, the secrets, to make their own cosmic ships, but this technology is only learned in the spiritual culture. Interplanetary trips that are made are holy and totally sacred. In this way we shall travel. Everybody can travel in the universe. But traveling on only a mental/intellectual level is dangerous.” That's all they said.
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&lt;br/&gt;Cosmic Ships... They can make cosmic ships and there's a big, mother ship, very, very giant. There they have no weapons like tanks, machine guns, airplanes to attack or atomic bombs or anything like this because they say it is not necessary. They know another way to control, a superior way. They are the kingdom of the supermen. They are Gods and the Goddesses. They have a better way to control because they know electromagnetic science. The only weapon they have is a little spray. When they spray a little bit, for example before landing in New York, let's say, only with a little spray they can paralyze all of New York State, even many states, three, four states. It paralyzes all machines, all the human beings without killing, without making damage to the machines, without making any noises, or without destroying anything, buildings or anything, paralyzes everything. In that moment they can control everything. Anytime if they want, they can take over the planet Earth. They don't do it, because if they do, they will lose their initiation. Why would they lose their initiation? Because they will be violating the law of free will. We fight all these wars with each other among countries. This is our free will. This is our reality. We cannot complain, because we want the easy life. The easy life is not meditating, not practicing the spiritual culture. We want to dominate the material first before the spirit. It doesn't work that way. We need to be spiritual first, then dominate the material.
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&lt;br/&gt;Control of nature and the material worlds... This is the way they work to dominate nature. They are the kings and queens, so like a king they dominate nature. Whenever they want rain, they make it rain. Whenever they want it cloudy, they make it cloudy. Whenever they want it sunny, they put away the clouds and then it is sunny. They live in the Fourth Dimension. In the ancient times their planet used to be a Third Dimensional world and the Fourth Dimensional world. These two are in the physical. The Third Dimensional world is the subconscious, because it is not a conscious world. Now many conscious people are living in paradise on this planet Earth. There are some masters already living consciously in this Third Dimension. Most of the conscious people are in the Fourth Dimension. On Venus they have united, they have become one. They are living in paradise, so it is protected. It's an enchanted planet, almost un-touchable, because it is ruled by less laws. If they come here it is because they want to share wisdom. They want to give a message, a warning to humanity, to show us another way.
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&lt;br/&gt;There are other civilizations, more developed, more enlightened, in the spiritual path. it is very important to know their life, to compare our civilization with the civilizations of other planets in this solar system. They feel sorry for us because we are not growing enough, but they are also very glad because we are working. We are understanding little by little. Their guidance says not to look for connection with ETs, because sometimes when we invoke this, we want to be taken, not to come back and that's no good, because we are running away from our responsibilities. We have done almost no work here, and we want to be saved. That doesn't work. Also from the other solar systems comes negative entities, cosmic ships, etc. The gray men don't come from other planets. They come from the planet Earth. There is the Fourth Dimension light side and the Fourth Dimension dark side. In the dark side are living those gray people. Humanity believes that they come from other planets. Also in our planet, living in the dark side are other kinds of monsters, and big animals also. Dimension by dimension there is life, different forms of life. Only in the Third Dimension and the Fourth Dimension can we live with a physical body. To go to the other dimensions, fifth, sixth, and seventh, we need other bodies, astral body, mental body, causal body, atomic body, and other bodies. (end)&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Incredible pictures of Mars</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Ever since Victorian astronomers pointed their telescopes towards Mars and wrongly believed they had discovered canals, mankind has been obsessed by the red planet.
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&lt;br/&gt;Now these astonishing new images - captured by a European spacecraft in orbit around Mars - are helping to fuel that fascination.
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&lt;br/&gt;They show in astonishing detail a network of giant valleys, vast plains and towering waterfalls carved into the surface of our neighbouring planet, millions of miles away. 
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1035440/Incredible-pictures-Mars--look-surprisingly-like-parts-Earth.html&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Waken Sleeping Child, Shake Dreams From Your Hair Little One.</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;There has been an awakening happening for some time now, yet there is still much mis-information and lack of true understanding. I hope to be able to provide some tools and perhaps some answers. 
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&lt;br/&gt;First and foremost: 
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&lt;br/&gt;DON'T PANIC... 
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&lt;br/&gt;We are currently in the Dark Ages.... The Kali Yuga... Dec 21, 2012 marks the end of the Baktun Long Count... This will be the Begining of the Satya Yuga or the Golden Age... Also it marks the end of a 25,625 year cycle known as 'the precession of the equinox'. It is the end of the Age of Pieces and the Beginning of the Age of Aquarius... If that wasn't enough it also marks the day when the winter solstice sun passes through the Galactic Center as it travels the spirit road through the heavenly gate unlocking the stargate (Dimensional Gate) at two doorways... (as well the 'quarantine' Force Field 3rd-7th density)   
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&lt;br/&gt;Reality IS what you make... 
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&lt;br/&gt;Now is a time to get together and share information and love... 
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&lt;br/&gt;We are making a future right here and now... 
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&lt;br/&gt;Many psychics have claimed to not be able to see past the end of the Baktun Long Count... Doomsayers would have you believe it is because the world will end... Some like Terrence McKenna believed time would end on that date.... Neither are even close... Time is a Fractal... Remember that... not Linear.... But going in all directions, at once even.... Remember we live in an infinite universe...
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&lt;br/&gt;I have had no such problems, but to quell their alarm... 
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&lt;br/&gt;We are currently 4th Density (Dimensional), not 3rd as many may think... That shift happened artificially in 1978 and naturally in 1998... 
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&lt;br/&gt;12.21.2012 will be a marker on our way to 5th Density. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The reason for the psychic block is simple... 
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&lt;br/&gt;You can not see into the next higher vibration... This is a simple rule, even in classical physics... 
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&lt;br/&gt;The Planet itself as a spiritual entity will be moving into 5th Density as well as 22 other star systems with their own planets that are in our galaxy. Part of the agenda of the ones that control us is to make us manifest our own demise. If you devote your time to thinking negative things, then you are manifesting exactly what you don't what to happen into existence. What we must now all do is think and live with universal love for all beings, even the draconians, greys and reptilians... Feel free to use my links in my profile to do your own research.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Webstream: "Esoteric Agenda" Discussion Thread</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Any of you liked Zeitgeist? 
&lt;br/&gt;This one is shaping up to be even better in my opinion.
&lt;br/&gt;I'm going to have to watch the second half later, 
&lt;br/&gt;but already there are some interesting question raised by this webstream:
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&lt;br/&gt;-Is the 'illuminati' going to justify mass population 
&lt;br/&gt;reduction with "Gaia - save the Earth" arguments?
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&lt;br/&gt;-Is Global Warming the precursor for mass property seizure, 
&lt;br/&gt;mass displacement of humans, concentration camps, and worse?
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&lt;br/&gt;Please watch it with an open mind, and try to get beyond the usual 
&lt;br/&gt;"oh, it's a conspiracy theory" blockage...
&lt;br/&gt;-=YOU=- decide what seems most likely to be true, nobody else,
&lt;br/&gt;but this is a 2 hour blast of information that I feel should be 
&lt;br/&gt;considered as an alternative to that 
&lt;br/&gt;"movie-that's-on-tv-that-I've-already-seen-but-oh-well..."
&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6030443037963555139
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&lt;br/&gt;I'll be back with my perspective after I watched the rest.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>The Quote Of The Day</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Lately, I had this increasing perception of NOW. An interesting, completing sensation of the present, the flow of energy that isn't connected to past or not ending in the future.
&lt;br/&gt;It is just IS. It is liberating beyond anyhing else. It is perhaps a form of satori that keeps lingering around for days or weeks.
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&lt;br/&gt;I want to start a thread where anyone can leave a quote. A quote that's relevant for today, that has shifted your perception, that astonished you, affected you, pissed you off, made you angry, sad, happy, enlightened or frustrated. The quote can come from anyone: ancient proverb, Greek philosopher, the yesterday's news or your friends mom. Even George Bush.
&lt;br/&gt;The quote should be limited in lenght (a three page essay is not a quote...) and always should be marked, where is it coming from. As there can be many quotes a day from a single person, I ask you to choose only ONE quote for a day. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Please, no discussion, arguments, bitching, winks, burps, farts and absolutely no bending.
&lt;br/&gt;Only crystal clear, well placed quotes.
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&lt;br/&gt;Words build bridges into unexplored regions.
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&lt;br/&gt;Adolf Hitler
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      <title>Geraldo Rivera and 2012</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Sounds as if Geraldo is a skeptic, but whatever gets the ratings, right?
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiaSO47-DxA
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      <title>little r's childrens hour is back....</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;one can only fool the fool....
&lt;br/&gt;just for 
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&lt;br/&gt;long
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&lt;br/&gt;it is time
&lt;br/&gt;to 
&lt;br/&gt;waken 
&lt;br/&gt;theese
&lt;br/&gt;children&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Evidence of 2012 Nexus?</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Strange thing occurred, a Tribester named Paul posted a link to an article about the possibility that our Sun is not from our galaxy.  He entitles his thread "Fascinating"  Will responded and while I was creating my response, the post with deleted and Paul unsubscribed.  He had 81 friends.  I copied the posts to what seems an important article:
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&lt;br/&gt;PAUL:
&lt;br/&gt;viewzone.com/milkyway.html
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&lt;br/&gt;Very interesting article I came across. I'd like to see what others think of this?
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&lt;br/&gt;WILL:
&lt;br/&gt;This has been thoroughly debunked. Also been completely rejected by the people who actually published the original paper in 2003. 
&lt;br/&gt;Here's Bad Astrnomy's take: 
&lt;br/&gt;blogs.discovermagazine.com/bada...laxy/
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&lt;br/&gt;Here's the press release from the scientists themselves: 
&lt;br/&gt;astsun.astro.virginia.edu/~mfs4n/sgr/
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&lt;br/&gt;PAUL:
&lt;br/&gt;Ah thank you, that's why i posted.
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&lt;br/&gt;J'UHA (ME):
&lt;br/&gt;I'd say this is more than fascinating and we ought to question very carefully who in fact is doing the debunking and why.  First of all there are many claims in science that prove not to be true.  It's fascinating why this one created such an reaction.  So what if the Sun migrated from another galaxy?
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&lt;br/&gt;For the record, I am not an astronomer by any stretch of the imagination though I have studied the astronomy of 2012 quite carefully.  The Great Crossing in the sky is precisely when the Milky Way (referring to the collection of stars that forms what is known as the Oroborus or the serpent EATING it's own tail) crosses the ecliptic (the site of the Sun as it travels around the Earth) which occurs in only two places: Taurus (Bull) and Orphiucus (Eagle).  The other two are Aquarius (Water Bearer) and Leo (Lion).  
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&lt;br/&gt;The writer of the DISCOVER Blog, Phil Platt Ph.D., claims the Milky Way and the Sun's ecliptic are in perfect alignment.  This is blatantly not true.  What is Phil Plat covering up?
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&lt;br/&gt;For the record, a quick Google search acknowledges Phil Platt [ ghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Plait ] as a recipient of his Ph.D. from the University of Virginia, the other source that debunks the claim. Interestingly, it is not just from the Astronomy Department that makes the statement but University Relations!  This implies that the University Commons are very worried about the implications of this discovery and given that universities receive money from high places for covering only certain material, it seems a very delicate ceiling was breeched implying that the discover is accurate!
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&lt;br/&gt;Was this information covered in any major newspapers or magazines?  It's worth finding out.
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&lt;br/&gt;Orphiucus (Man holding a serpent and stepping on a Scorpion) is a sister constellation to Sagittarius.  Both point to the Central Sun (Alcion) referenced as time zero by the Mayan Calendar.  The completion of the cycle takes 25,920 and is broken into 4 distinct epochs marked by the 2 equinoxes and 2 solstices.  The Central Sun is near the Center of the Galaxy. The Center of the Galaxy is always at the same point, only our perspective changes.  
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&lt;br/&gt;Platt also refutes the legitimacy of the Mayan Calendar saying it's a non sequitor to speak of the Mayan Calendar in any serious scientific investigation.  Why did Pope Gregory adjust the Julian calendar from a 13 month / 28 day system to a 12 month 'Gregorian' system thereby excluding the constellation Orphiucus?  
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&lt;br/&gt;According to Mayan texts, "When the Serpent feeds the Eagle, Quetzlcoatl returns."  This means that the conjunction between the region of Sagittarius and Orphiucus (The Eagle and Serpent holder which stands above Scorpio) is precisely where the new sun enters our galaxy but legend holds that this is the rising of the Phoenix every 25,920 years and not literally a new or second sun.  The Eagle appears right over the head of the serpent (Milky Way) at this time.  It is possible that the symbol of the Eagle and the Phoenix are one and the same.
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&lt;br/&gt;My assumption, the writers of the article (Dan Eden), who is named rather appropriately wouldn't you say, has discovered evidence of the Nexus and has confused this with a dissolving galaxy.  This is the very essence of what the secret societies do not want the masses to know about.  If we are ignorant of this energy and time, we do not consciously benefit nor compete for it's spiritual bounties.  Not only do I consider this article 'Fascinating', but rather critical and worthy of a great deal of attention.
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&lt;br/&gt;WIll, where did the original writers debunk themselves?  Maybe his job or tenure was threatened.  This only happened to me twice so far in this life!
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      <title>Incomprehensible or no comprendo: your faith will slave you</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;The flesh body a life machine for perception of creation, creation of perception.
&lt;br/&gt;Don't frame it in a box, or chain it to the rocks.
&lt;br/&gt;The prehensile mind gathers find into know growing
&lt;br/&gt;Time holds memory tight as excite 
&lt;br/&gt;Energies spin up the astral instruments in chord and accord
&lt;br/&gt;Hum, as you are
&lt;br/&gt;Be a trada, mudra ved-a, resonata
&lt;br/&gt;choosa day to
&lt;br/&gt;finda way to
&lt;br/&gt;know
&lt;br/&gt;what you've known, where you've gone, who you've been, what you're in
&lt;br/&gt;There's no sin in the being, in the truth, of the seeing
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&lt;br/&gt;The dynamix of consciousness is a functional splay of Divine Design.... made to exponetialize itself unto untrained accords.... made by the Making that goes into the being of experience, the Of-ing X Besperience we No! so well.  Physical holds the arithmetic for assembly of clox .... consciousclox that meetre rhythm rate co-loop-devate what finite can't di-unite.  It's the same but name starting tricks will pale in rotenation fix, to make fast the move-stay.
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&lt;br/&gt;Algorhythm sharks stray into fray with-holding every techni-frumplock and chilling so with cold mantra in the says-do and shall-what. Opervious dink jig jinx IG.
&lt;br/&gt;What I said, and then way weigh going in unto drydoc boatnotion be sense-by-hand.
&lt;br/&gt;Gave it, tray, and withon was the IS from before, as it continues .org
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&lt;br/&gt;From this, assembly made of care oculus into dare prosperous, where said destiny would hang well unto "as we go".
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&lt;br/&gt;Nothing, I haven't said before, but everything is what.
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&lt;br/&gt;(hint miracles inneracles, in the witness won't wander, what with wonder worth in crisp tellings go bellings)&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;i think alot of how we come to conclusions, etc. has to do with the way we're wired.  
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&lt;br/&gt;here is a site that has lots of personality tests.  thought it would be fun to see how everyone tested out.  
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.geocities.com/lifexplore/tests.htm&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;here is a good report by moyers...
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&lt;br/&gt;old news to a lot of you...
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.truthout.org/video/bill-moyers-it-was-oil-all-along&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;i found this intriguing
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1445&amp;amp;category=Environment&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Brazilian "Nostradamus" predicts earthquake for Philippines - Tomorrow</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;"Brazilian psychic Jucelino Nobrega da Luz prophesied that thousands of Filipinos would die in an 8.1 magnitude earthquake to strike the Philippines tomorrow. Dubbed as the Modern Day Nostradamus, Nobrega da Luz has created a stir worldwide when he claimed to have predicted the death of Princess Diana and the 9/11 terror attack, the tsunami that wreaked havoc in Indonesia on December 26 four years ago, a further Tremor in Sumatra, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and the winning of the soccer world championship by Italy. His predictions are reported to have been notarized for authenticity...."
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&lt;br/&gt;we'll see if his predictions come true
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&lt;br/&gt;http://mediumchannel.com/index.php/20080717141/Psychic-Blog/Brazilian-Nostradamus-predicts-earthquake-for-Philippines.html&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Inner harmony principles confronts outer tech culture</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;The real issues that are being played out in this world can be understood in basic archetypal terms that are far more specific than good vs evil, or positive vs negative. In my experience it comes down to a major polarization. 
&lt;br/&gt;  A.    There are beings who give their power over to technology on an external, physical level primarily, and to reductive rationalism on an internal, mental-energetic level.  
&lt;br/&gt;  B.    Contrasting this are beings who externalize their inner, energetic powers of mind into the physical, using intuitive, creative, expansive forms of rationality, and seeing technology simply as an adjunct for facilitating the externalization of an inner harmony.
&lt;br/&gt;  
&lt;br/&gt;We also have every mix in between, as we've witnessed here in confrontations.... but the basic issues seem to be definable in these terms.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;There is a cosmological struggle that parallels our earthly dilemmas. Technologies exist that make mere biological organisms godlike in their powers. To many, indeed, vast proportions of beings in the cosmos, what we call science &amp;amp; technology are virtually worshiped as essentially 'god'.  All of (or primarily) the existence of these beings centers upon the utilization and advancement of a tech-sci culture, often with only an almost reluctant acknowledgment of spirit-mind. The earth's power structures are controlled at present from the end of the spectrum dominated by sci-tech orientations.
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&lt;br/&gt;2012 is the nexus point where this sci-tech-as-god culture is compelled to yield control to the god-within-expressed-outwardly culture of mind-spirit as primary orientation. Compelled? Yes, as the true origins of beingness itself originate from the aetheric spirit-mind, which has authorized the sci-tech culture to function dominantly up unto this turning point, in which the very nature of the physics shifts back into higher harmonic principles that favor the limitless powers of spirit-mind over the limitations of sci-tech mind.  2012 is the "limit of limitation".... as limitation is of the essence of sci-tech, so there are limits to its ability to be dominant. Sci-tech will continue, but only at the behest of spirit-minded culture, as deemed "purposeful"... as supporting spirited-mind ...rather than "for its own sake &amp;amp; power".
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&lt;br/&gt;The 2012 Earth portal is of great significance due to being a full-spectrumed dimensional gateway where many, many cosmological scores have converged to be settled by the major players in the universe-evolution game.  It is the homespace of many Buddha-Bodhisattvas in terms of those who have chosen to participate in this universal-physicalization of spirit.
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&lt;br/&gt;Those of us who are primarily of "spirit-mindedness" will find, are finding, unprecedented opening into greater liberation of mind &amp;amp; body.  The large numbers of beings using sci-tech culture as their focus require confrontation to spark their consciousness towards awakening into their potential spirit-mindedness. While there is no forcing this, due to free-will, we are duty-bound and well-motivated to not shirk or shrink from this opportunity, as we experience self-awakening by giving voice to what is known within the self. 
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&lt;br/&gt;What may appear to be conflict at first impression can actually be an "actualization process".  If it evolves in a positive progression, then it serves a positive purpose.
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;It's been said that Obama is treated like a rock star where ever he goes.  I know a few rock stars, such as Dylan and the Boss, have rallied behind him but have you seen this?
&lt;br/&gt;disclaimer: you don't have to be a Twisted Sister fan to dig it.
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgkrX-NSt6Q
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&lt;br/&gt;Now all we need is ACDC: "For those about to (Ba)ROCK...we salute you!!!!&lt;/div&gt;
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      <link>http://2012.tribe.net/thread/067d901c-b09f-4f6f-a445-06127e13f308</link>
      <description>&lt;div&gt;good
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&lt;br/&gt;http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=jDrq0LNrh-A&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Time Surfer Mayan Long Count &amp;amp; Dreamspell software now open source</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Time Surfer Mayan Long Count &amp;amp; Dreamspell software now open source 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;If you want to work on the code and expand it,  then check out:
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.gaianmysteryschool.com
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&lt;br/&gt;Currently it is Mac OS X only.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;2 weeks
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&lt;br/&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7515589.stm&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>David Icke - Big Brother, the Big Picture</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;This guy says exactly what i have been trying to tell you people, so just watch the video at the bottom of this post, and just listen, do not judge, leave your egos at the doorstep and enjoy the show&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
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&lt;br/&gt;""I have been following David Icke's journey and research for almost a decade now. Amazing to see how he had been ridiculed and laughed at in the beginning of his "career"....and now most of what he had said back then is happening and has happened, be it the 9/11 Inside Job, the "human made" Global Warming Propaganda, exposing the Psychopathy of world leaders ( as well as the English "Kingdom"), the control of "both sides" in any political system, the concept of "Problem-Reaction-Solution", the Real ID, or the coming Microchip, up to Hyperdimensional Control through Entities that have a grip on this planet since eons (that part is the hardest to grasp for most and has given him most of the problems in public.....for obvious reasons).He had talked about all that already in the late 90's when people would just laugh at him. I have to give this man much credit, respect and love for standing up for what's right, despite the abuse he and his family had to take in the early years. He's not perfect. He has his flaws, like we all do and he has been victim to some disinformation in the past but he's on the right path. He's a light worker, exposing the dark and making it conscious, presenting information we need to look at, for the better good of all. Precious times.
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&lt;br/&gt;"Cowardice askes the question:"Is it safe"? 
&lt;br/&gt;Expediency asks the question:"Is it politic"?
&lt;br/&gt;Vanity asks the question:"Is it popular?"
&lt;br/&gt;But conscience asks the question:"Is it right?" 
&lt;br/&gt;And there comes a time when one must take a position that is 
&lt;br/&gt;neither safe, nor politic, nor popular
&lt;br/&gt;but one must take it because one's conscience tells one what is right."
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&lt;br/&gt;- Martin Luther King -
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&lt;br/&gt;Here is his recent talk from July 6th 2008, called "Big Brother, the Big Picture".
&lt;br/&gt;It's almost 3h long and worth every minute. Give him a listen. Personally I think he's a better talker/presenter (funny too!) than writer and you will see why. He talks without any script or notes, just free flow streaming consciousness, with great energy and passion. For some of you, some of what he says is nothing new, it's the "basics" so to speak (the rabbit hole goes deeper when getting into the hyperdimensional aspect of Control), but I just like seeing him talk. It inspires me and motivates me to speak up for what is right, not just safe, politic or popular.
&lt;br/&gt;Enjoy!""
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&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-4799447112501062338&amp;amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;amp;fs=true&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Know the facts, rewrite the Truth!</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Excerpt from e-mail conversation...
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&lt;br/&gt;...2012 is also a window for clarity of consciousness.  There is a war going on right now but not the sort you will hear about on the news.  It's a spiritual war, and my confidence comes form the fact that the results have already occurred!  If you are compelled to ask "How do I know," this is merely another way of saying, why can't I see the proof now?  Remember that the third dimension is eternity slowed down and we measure the gaps in manifestation with time (miles/hour or manifestation/time).  The apparent slowness does not diminish the pervasiveness of eternal and simultaneously manifesting intentions. The gaps are illusory.  Widespread peace and compassion on Earth has already occurred because I and others manifest this.  Do you?  It's easy to see why alternate stories were written to distract us from our co-Creative role in an eternal field of love and intelligence.  I just wrote this positive outcome story and I rewrite it many times every day.  The more people that do the same will speed up the manifestation of a version of the story that will match our consciousness.  Relax beliefs, vanquish the conspiracies and open your heart! 
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&lt;br/&gt;Know the facts, rewrite the Truth!&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Copied these 2 comments from youtube under a movie about 2012:
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&lt;br/&gt;"what so many people seem to miss is that the so-called "end" of the mayan calender is only the end of the 26,000 year cycle and is interconnected with the beginning of a new one. apocalypse literally means "to uncover" (not the biblical "end of days") and according to the mayans, the end of the cycle marks the peak of darkness on earth (translate: war,famine,natural disasters), but also marks the slow return to back to light. like the moon wanes and waxes, so too does this great cosmic cycle." 
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&lt;br/&gt;** * * ** * * ** * * ** * * ** * * ** * * ** 
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&lt;br/&gt;"You're actually comparing a human programing mishap to a celestial event that occurs once every 25,800 years? Surely this is a poor comparison. Are you even aware that there is a black hole at the center of our galaxy called Sagittarius A*. We are passing through the strongest part of its band in the years 2008-2015. This is relatively modern science, we just found out about the black hole a few years ago. Doesn't the weather seem a lil different to you? "
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&lt;br/&gt;==&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; SOOOooo.. then, this "Apocalypse" combined with the occult (means hidden, secrets, in the dark, unknown) fears we have about this; could be US as humankind right now UNCOVERING the unknown.. the secrets, the matrix or what is hidden...)
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&lt;br/&gt;A video I WOULD recommend that will "blow your mind" ; ) is THIS:
&lt;br/&gt;Mind Over Matter - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aBGeoLf5X8
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      <dc:creator>Sunnely ۞</dc:creator>
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      <title>Send Karl Rove to jail</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;http://sendkarlrovetojail.com/
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      <title>So. Cal 2012 Event Planning</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Greetings,
&lt;br/&gt;The Tequihua Foundation is planning a day long 2012 event in Southern California during late September 2008, and will be featuring several guest speakers . . . We are looking for suggestions for speakers, authors, entertainment, volunteers and possibly vendors to support this event . . . specifically those that will provide a holistic approach to Toltec philosophy, the Mayan calendar, and the universal shifts lending to 2012 and beyond . . .
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&lt;br/&gt;I figured you all would have something to say about this . . . I would appreciate any positive feedback.  You are welcome to post here or contact me directly . . .
&lt;br/&gt;Anam Cara, Bonnie&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>a place for songs we love</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;songs we love.. 
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&lt;br/&gt;songs that move us...&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>a bit of humor</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;humor...
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&lt;br/&gt;we need it.
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&lt;br/&gt;i love the "man in the box" videos on youtube
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&lt;br/&gt;Man In The Box - Episode 02 - "Casual Friday"
&lt;br/&gt;http://youtube.com/watch?v=BntqH3OsepU&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:48:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>song: it's 3am and i must be lonely...</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;never have been 
&lt;br/&gt;but learned
&lt;br/&gt;onely
&lt;br/&gt;re: you enter into this/the world alone and...
&lt;br/&gt;you leave it...
&lt;br/&gt;alone
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&lt;br/&gt;prepare&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Synchromysticsm and the stargate to cosmic illumination</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;So i have been posting some material from time to time on this tribe related to a subject of study called synchromysticsm.  We all know what synchroniscity is so i wont elaborate on that aspect.  
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&lt;br/&gt;But synchromysticsm is when these seemingly mundane coincidences appear in popular culture.  These synchronisities contain symbolic referances to occult knowlege and allude to deeper insights into the realm of conciousness.  These coincidences are highlighted by a few individuals who are making these connections and spelling them out for us.
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&lt;br/&gt;I belive that these synchromystical connections to be communications from higher universal intelligences to us.  The synchronisities manifest themselfs in a mass media such as hollywood films.  Being viewed by mass culture the sublte seeds of conciousness are implanted into the mass pysche where later they will unfold into the mass illumination of the masses.
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&lt;br/&gt;Its a bit of a stretch for a new commer to understand what this is all about, but i encourage you to look into this subject.  I believe it deals highly with the unfolding of cosmic illumination that we are experiancing at this dawn of the new millenium leading up to the mayan 2012 end date.  
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&lt;br/&gt;I emplore you to familiarize yourself with the following synchromystics:
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&lt;br/&gt;Jake Kotze - Author of A brave new world blogspot, he has made many entertaining videos that highlight synchromystism in films, cartoons and comic books to say the least.  
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&lt;br/&gt;http://thebravenewworldorder.blogspot.com/
&lt;br/&gt;http://rundonotwalk.blogspot.com/
&lt;br/&gt;http://youtube.com/Seallion
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&lt;br/&gt;Steve Willner - Authour of Labrinth of the Psyconaut and authour of films.
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&lt;br/&gt;http://labyrinthofthepsychonaut.blogspot.com/
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/user/soundlessdawn&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;just a bit higher on the food chain.  
&lt;br/&gt;that's all.  begin to pray, not prey, cuz all will end in the same vat of hell...
&lt;br/&gt;at least before you face...
&lt;br/&gt;death
&lt;br/&gt;only, a little late to be sorry...
&lt;br/&gt;this is not nor will not be a matter of belief, only ONE of/reality
&lt;br/&gt;why has government been the largest employer?
&lt;br/&gt;especially when most began to see the downslide
&lt;br/&gt;the enemy needs morons to fight the stupid, and the stubborn and the 
&lt;br/&gt;ignorant.
&lt;br/&gt;the more, the merrier...at least for
&lt;br/&gt;evil&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>How Brainwashing Works</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;"In her book on the history of brainwashing, Taylor describes how everyone from the Chinese thought reform camps of the last century to religious cults have used systematic methods to persuade people to change their ideas, sometimes radically.
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&lt;br/&gt;"The first step is to isolate a person and control what information they receive. Their former beliefs need to be challenged by creating uncertainty. New messages need to be repeated endlessly. And the whole thing needs to be done in a pressured, emotional environment.
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&lt;br/&gt;"'Beliefs are mental objects in the sense that they are embedded in the brain,' says Taylor. 'If you challenge them by contradiction, or just by cutting them off from the stimuli that make you think about them, then they are going to weaken slightly. If that is combined with very strong reinforcement of new beliefs, then you're going to get a shift in emphasis from one to the other.'"
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2005/jun/30/psychology.neuroscience
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&lt;br/&gt;Here's a link to info on Taylor's book:
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&lt;br/&gt;Brainwashing: The Science of Thought Control
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.amazon.com/Brainwashing-Science-Thought-Kathleen-Taylor/dp/0199204780/
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&lt;br/&gt;Here's another related story:
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&lt;br/&gt;Framing aided by repetition, psychologists report
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.harperindex.ca/ViewArticle.cfm?Ref=0098
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&lt;br/&gt;"New research confirms that repetition of 'myths' and slogans helps lodge them in the minds of the public and that refuting them often leads only to the public remembering falsehoods better. Instead, they tell us that "education campaigns with an 'affirmative' message," even if it is a negative message, are far more effective in defeating an adversary's frame. 
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&lt;br/&gt;"University of Michigan social psychologist Norbert Schwarz has done experiments showing that people remember things they hear repeated often enough, regardless of its source, and even if it's from a single source. 
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&lt;br/&gt;"'Hearing the same opinion from several sources is more influential than hearing it only once from one source. This is as it should be,' he wrote in an email exchange with HarperIndex.ca 'But, as we showed in a recent paper, hearing it multiple times from the same source is nearly as influential. 'A repetitive voice sounds like a chorus.' So a single person or small group can create the impression of broad consensus through sheer repetition.'"
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&lt;br/&gt;This seems to happen a lot around here.  Especially with regard to myths about 2012.
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Delusions About Obama: Worse Than McCain?
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&lt;br/&gt;Friday, July 11, 2008
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.prisonplanet.com/delusions-about-obama-worse-than-mccain.html
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&lt;br/&gt;Every four years, liberals and progressives are expected to set aside their beliefs and stand foursquare behind the Democratic Party candidate. This ritual is invariably performed in the name of party unity. It doesn’t matter if the candidate is a smooth-talking politician who’s willing to toss his pastor of 20 years overboard for a few awkward comments, or whether he refuses to defend basic civil liberties like the 4th amendment’s right to privacy. All that matters is that there’s a big “D” following his name and that he shows he’s willing to engage in some meaningless verbal jousting with his Republican opponent.
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&lt;br/&gt;For nearly a year now, the public has been treated to regular doses of Mr. Obama’s grandiloquent oratory and his sweeping “Follow me to Shangri-la” promises. These flourishes are usually followed by “clarifications” on the central issues which identify Obama as a center-right conservative with no intention of disrupting the status quo. CounterPunch co-editor Alexander Cockburn summed it up like this in a recent article on this site:
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&lt;br/&gt;“There have plenty of articles recently with headlines such “Obama’s Lunge to the Right”. I find these odd. Never for one moment has Obama ever struck me as someone anchored, or even loosely moored to the left, or even displaying the slightest appetite for radical notions, aside from a few taglines tossed from the campaign bus.”
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&lt;br/&gt;Obama-boosters on the left simply ignore the facts because the thought of the unstable John McCain in the Oval Office with his stubby fingers just inches from the Big Red Switch is too much to bear. So, they throw their support behind Obama and hope for the best. But Obama has done nothing to earn their vote and there’s nothing to indicate that he has any interest in restoring the republic or putting and end to US adventurism. He’s just a one-term senator who doesn’t want to rock the boat. That’s it. He’d rather keep his position on the issues blurry and rattle off lofty-sounding platitudes than state plainly how he feels. Unfortunately, when he’s pinned down and has to give a straight answer, he quickly swerves to the right where he feels most at home.
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&lt;br/&gt;Some Obamaniacs admit to feeling troubled from time to time. They worry that behind the rhetorical fanfare, Barack is just an empty gourd; a well-spoken pitch man with no moral core. Could he be another Slick Willie, they wonder; another self-promoting politico as eager to sell out his working class supporters as chase a frisky intern around the Lincoln bedroom? No one knows, because no one has figured out exactly why Obama is running. Does he really want to lift the country from the muck of 8 years of Bush misrule or does he just want to gad about on Airforce 1 and make pretty speeches in the Rose Garden? What really drives Obama? It’s a mystery.
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&lt;br/&gt;But don’t be fooled, Obama could turn out to be worse than McCain, much worse. No one doubts that he is brighter and more charismatic than the irritating senator from Arizona. And no one underestimates his Pied Piper ability to galvanize crowds and stir up national pride. But what good is that? Obama works for the same group of venal plutocrats as Bush; a fact that was made painfully clear just last week when he voted to approve the new FISA bill that allows the president to continue spying on American citizens with impunity. Obama is a constitutional scholar; he understood what he was voting for. He was sending a message to his supporters that they don’t really matter; that what really counts is the small gaggle of powerful corporatists who run the country and believe the president is above the law. That’s what his vote really meant.
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&lt;br/&gt;So, why vote for him? We don’t need a glamor boy to trash the Bill of Rights. And we don’t need another paper-mache president who tries to conceal America’s war crimes behind stuffy-sounding pronouncements about “Islamofacism” and other terrorist mumbo-jumbo. What we need is someone with enough guts and moral fiber to shake up the political establishment, put an end to the wars and covert operations, and clean up Wall Street.
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&lt;br/&gt;Obama has dazzled the media with his easy manner and his savoir faire, but he’s not the right man for the job. He has surrounded himself with ex-Clintonistas who will continue the global onslaught with even greater ferocity than Bush, although much more discreetly.(After all, this is the empire’s A Team) And just like Clinton, who bombed the bejesus out of Belgrade for 87 days without batting an eye; Obama will keep the war machine chugging along at full-throttle. No thanks.
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&lt;br/&gt;What the world really needs is a five or ten year break from the United States; a little breather so people can unwind and take it easy for a while without worrying that their wedding party will be vaporized in a blast of napalm or that their brother-in-law will be dragged off to some CIA hellhole where his eyes are gouged out and his fingernails ripped off. That’s what the world really needs, a temporary pause in the imperial violence. But there won’t be any sabbatical under Field-Marshall Obama; no way. As Bill Van Auken points out in an article on the World Socialist web site, Obama may turn out to be the point-man for reinstating the draft:
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&lt;br/&gt;Obama has “lamented the failure of the Bush administration to issue “a call to service” and “a call for shared sacrifice….There is no challenge greater than the defense of our nation and our values,” said Obama. We “need to ease the burden on our troops, while meeting the challenges of the 21st century,” which, according to Obama, will require an “increase US ground forces by 65,000 soldiers and 27,000 Marines.’” (”Obama continues lurch to the right on Iraq war and militarism” Bill Van Auken)
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&lt;br/&gt;Is that why the political establishment is so enthusiastic about Obama, because they need a better recruiting sergeant than the uninspiring McCain?
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&lt;br/&gt;No one has followed Obama’s rightward drift with greater interest and bemusement than the editors of the Wall Street Journal. They have faithfully chronicled all the vacillating, obfuscating and backpedaling and they’ve made up their minds; Obama is marching straight towards the welcoming arms of the Republican Party. That’s right; he’s gradually embracing the conservative platform and abandoning any pretense of liberalism. Two weeks ago the WSJ ran an editorial that summarized Obama’s metamorphosis in an article titled “Bush’s Third Term”:
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&lt;br/&gt;We’re beginning to understand why Barack Obama keeps protesting so vigorously against the prospect of ‘George Bush’s third term.’ Maybe he’s worried that someone will notice that he’s the candidate who’s running for it.
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&lt;br/&gt;Most Presidential candidates adapt their message after they win their party nomination, but Mr. Obama isn’t merely ‘running to the center.’ He’s fleeing from many of his primary positions so markedly and so rapidly that he’s embracing a sizable chunk of President Bush’s policy. Who would have thought that a Democrat would rehabilitate the much-maligned Bush agenda?
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&lt;br/&gt;That’s fair enough. Obama has changed his position on his “support of a filibuster of any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies”. He has wormed his way out of a definite commitment on withdrawing the troops from Iraq. (which was a real lesson in Clintonian triangulation) He’s backed off on his promise to rewrite the NAFTA free trade agreement. He’s thrown his support behind Bush’s “faith-based” social programs which provide state money for religious organizations. He’s sided with the majority on the Supreme Court on gun rights and whether to ban the death penalty for rape. How can anyone support a candidate who is on the same ideological side of legal issues as Antonin Scalia?
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&lt;br/&gt;In the past few weeks, Senator Switcheroo has blasted Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad while, at the same time, heaping praise on our “good friend” Israel. Obama even has a two paragraph commentary on his campaign web site lauding Israel’s devastating attack on Lebanon a year ago which killed 1,500 civilians and reduced much of the country’s vital infrastructure to rubble.
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&lt;br/&gt;Still think the “peace candidate” does not have the warmongering bone fides to do the empire’s dirty work?
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&lt;br/&gt;Think again.
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&lt;br/&gt;Many of us who have criticized Obama are being dismissed as cynics, but that’s nonsense. The truth is that the left Obama supporters have projected their own values onto their candidate and are trying to make him out to be something that he is not. They put words in his mouth so they can continue to hold on to the crazy notion that the system really isn’t broken and that it can be fixed by simply pulling a lever on election day. This is just the lazy-person’s way of ignoring the real work that needs to be done to restore American democracy; the organizing of groups and networks, the building of labor unions and working coalitions, the focussed determination to root-out corruption and entrenched corporate power. The system has to be rebuilt from the bottom-up not the top-down. It’ll take a revolution in thinking and lots of hard work. There’s no quick fix. Freedom isn’t free anymore; deal with it. Voting for Obama and keeping one’s fingers crossed, is not a sign of hope. It’s a sign of self-delusion.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>west and middle east tension, control of the truth on both sides, same problem ?</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;as tension betwen "the west" and "the middle east" or maybe better put muslim world and western world, rises almost daily, both the US and the Middle east seem to have goverments who strongly favour a biased media - 
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&lt;br/&gt;C:\world_project\reserach\Pakistan bans YouTube over anti-Islamic film clips  World news  The Guardian.mht
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&lt;br/&gt;its just as bad in mainstream American TV, but stuff is self censored largly, for more commerical reasons, but make no mistake, some powers that be in America are probably extremly preturbed at the open non commercial and liberal delivery of you tube. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Ever considered there was a link there ? that the tension on both "sides"  is exactly linked to the fact both sides want to control global interests in there interest, like to control the media, are both reactionary, and in there own interests mosly exclsivly, and try to control things if possible to achive that ? In the west the control is through comercial means mostly, and marketing. In the east spirtual and politcal/policing. 
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&lt;br/&gt;so, being both agressive yet simular, there clash is inevitable.
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&lt;br/&gt;its easy to look at this as from only one side, but the problem has two directional sources. Fundamentaly a resistance to postive new changes in doing things from both west and east, on some sides, holding onto old outmoded traditional self power serving ways of doing things for politcal/self serving ends. 
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&lt;br/&gt;its psychologicaly based, not either relgious, racial, cultral or even to do with class, its on open to the letting in of new postive changes, like the best of the 60's vibe. Thats my feeling anyway. its a reaction to that freedom from both east and west. 
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&lt;br/&gt;its going to give way though.  
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