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911 part 2

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    Re: 911 part 2

    Thu, April 22, 2010 - 6:33 PM
    Mossad Truck Bombs on Sept 11
    www.youtube.com/watch

    how come most have never heard of this?
    • Re: 911 part 2

      Sat, April 24, 2010 - 11:31 PM
      What do you mean by "most"? This stuff is on YouTube, for God's sake. It was also discussed in the earlier 9/11 thread.

      There's nothing in the clip itself that proves the people arrested were working for Mossad, just a lot of cleverly cut, propaganda-style innuendo.

      If you find any, could you post some *unbiased* reporting on this? What happened to the van? What about the "tons of explosives" claimed to have been found in it? What were these people's names? Who were the reporting officers?

      Just because the commentary on the video claims it's not anti-Semitic doesn't mean it isn't.
      • Re: 911 part 2

        Sun, April 25, 2010 - 1:07 AM
        "Wag the dog"
        I think Di Nero and Hoffman were in it. Made in the '90s.
        You can blame anyone for anything.
        One of the big ones these days is to hack into someones computer and remove a few files then deposit a bit of kiddie porn. Call the cops on them and even if the porn is found to be faked, the media has sullied the person to the point where there are vigilantes out there gunning for them.
        Scary world we live in these days.
        As far as all the crap being spread about Jews is concerned, my experience is that unless you stay within your own socio-economic group, you will inevitably suffer the indignity of racial attack. I've endured it myself. After almost half a century in this country, I still have people ask me where I'm from. How many suggest that I'm Billy Connolly's brother. How many insist that because I'm an O'Neill that I MUST be Irish not Scottish and let's not even mention the number of times I've been called an Englishman.
        Then after that's all settled, there is the suggestion that I'm mean with money!
        When I remember Mel Gibson's rant on how the Jews run Hollywood, the question that entered my mind was "AND?" Not wether the statement was true or false, but why should it matter?
        The good thing (if there could be a good thing) about the reporting of 9/11 was the live footage. Difficult to fake that. Sort of like the newspaper stories in '47 about the UFO crash. By the time the story had been touted from one side of the country to the other, it had changed from a UFO to a weather balloon. 9/11 was streamed live worldwide. It was the early morning after I'd become unemployed so I just sat and thought "Well, that's screwed me being able to get sympathy." while watching the images, I played the future conversations in my head. "Sorry, I can't pay for that I've just lost my job." "Lost your job! Who cares, we're in world war three!"
        Sigh.

        I know I haven't bothered with the U tube story, but if your talking about the van bomb that blew up under the twin towers in 1990, then wasn't that supposed to be Al qaeda as well?
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          Re: 911 part 2

          Sun, April 25, 2010 - 9:44 AM
          You can blame anyone for anything.
          One of the big ones these days is to hack into someones computer and remove a few files then deposit a bit of kiddie porn. Call the cops on them and even if the porn is found to be faked, the media has sullied the person to the point where there are vigilantes out there gunning for them.

          _____

          bingo!
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            Re: 911 part 2

            Sun, April 25, 2010 - 9:49 AM
            disturbing what is being done to some computers. have had my own problems. in fact law enforcement was handling one of these issues. subpoenas were sent to google, email accounts and a library in another state. these guys were good.
      • Re: 911 part 2

        Sun, April 25, 2010 - 9:10 AM
        This link has been posted before I believe.

        Unraveling Anti-Semitic 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

        www.adl.org/anti_semitis...ytheories.pdf
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          Re: 911 part 2

          Sun, April 25, 2010 - 10:04 AM
          i'm sorry steven, but adl is a hate organization that is bent on the extreme ideology . i don't like their agenda one bit.

          have you reviewed how rahm emmanuel is being treated by some of these people? they are calling him a self-hating jew because he is not falling in line with netanyahu. www.haaretz.com/hasen/spag...104187.html


          netanyahu pretty much got his way with the bush administration. if i were mr. obama i would be very disturbed and concerned about this man.


          Obama disses Netanyahu, sets yet another foreign policy milestone
          www.ihatethemedia.com/obama-d...etanyahu

          Americans Send 10,000 Roses to Netanyahu Following Mistreatment By Obama
          conservativeamericannews.com/fre...bama

          Netanyahu Cancels Washington Visit Fearing Ambush
          www.lobelog.com/netanyahu-...ing-ambush/


          i'm glad that mr. obama and ramo are taking a stand. mr. obama is proving to be a man with his own views.

          • Re: 911 part 2

            Sun, April 25, 2010 - 10:13 AM
            "adl is a hate organization that is bent on the extreme ideology"

            Their mission is within their name - The Anti-Defamation League. Extreme ideology? Hate? If you mean hating hate, then probably you have a point. Better to love love.
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              Re: 911 part 2

              Sun, April 25, 2010 - 10:46 AM
              i don't believe in a non israel nation. i do however have a problem with what i am seeing as extreme zionism in the world state of affairs. i've always supported the state of israel, as have most christians. in looking deeper into this situation i believe that we are being indoctrinated into a zionist idealogy. an agenda if you will.

              there are too many red flags. trying to piece it all together only creates more questions and concerns.

              if there was one pot that satan would have his hands in... it would be this one.
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                Re: 911 part 2

                Sun, April 25, 2010 - 10:54 AM
                why don't you just say what's really on your mind?
                • Re: 911 part 2

                  Sun, April 25, 2010 - 11:12 AM
                  Again, and for the umpteenth time, need we be reminded that investigating and exposing the involvement of certain people of Zionist sympathies in the 911 false flag does not constitute "antisemitism."
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                    Re: 911 part 2

                    Sun, April 25, 2010 - 11:25 AM
                    "Again, and for the umpteenth time, need we be reminded that investigating and exposing the involvement of certain people of Zionist sympathies in the 911 false flag does not constitute "antisemitism.""

                    Unfortunately the conflation happens despite the best intentions of getting to the truth of the matter.

                    www.adl.org/main_interne...spiracies.htm
                    • Re: 911 part 2

                      Sun, April 25, 2010 - 11:40 AM
                      The connection between Silverstein and Netanyahu and that whole can of worms which has been throughly fleshed out by Chris Bollyn leads to a network of people very much behind the Greater Israel At All Costs idea. If someone wants to call them "Jews" first and foremeost then that is their problem. I look at the Greater Israel crowd as just anothe bunch of people angling for a material pot of gold and using certain groupthink identities to get people behind their projects. It doesn't really matter what race or religion they happen to be, and a court of law convincting them will not drag that into the legal deliberations over their crimes.
                      The 911 flase flag would not have been possible without active participation of certain indivuduals "over here" especially Cheney and Rumsfeld. The 911 flase flag was a convergeance of interests that included those of the Greater Israel crowd but did not rely on them only for the execution of the op. I could really care less what their secret handshake is and what sort of little hats they wear to garner group solidarity and cohesiveness. You follow the crime where the crime leads. It is as simple as that. If it led to say the Black Panthers then any rational investigator would divorce himself from a tendency to castigate the entire black race for the crimes of a small group of people whose crime may have also used racial identity as an impetus.
                      • Re: 911 part 2

                        Sun, April 25, 2010 - 12:00 PM
                        "which has been throughly fleshed out by Chris Bollyn"

                        Chris Bollyn? Are you serious? You're insistently oblivious to any remarks I've made about the credibility of sources.

                        www.bollyn.com

                        www.google.com/#hl=en&sou...b7d243bf661

                        Believe Bollyn if you want. People believe all kinds of goofy things and you're certainly entitled to do it, too.

                        GIGO, as they say in the computer biz.
                        • Re: 911 part 2

                          Thu, April 29, 2010 - 10:59 AM
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                      Re: 911 part 2

                      Sun, April 25, 2010 - 11:41 AM
                      and what is the adl doing about the assaults on islam?

                      dare one mention the fact that they sympathize with this group of people... lest they be investigated. i think it's disturbing myself. just mention the word muslim in this country and many take a big aversion. it's pervasive. some will flat out tell you that they hate muslims. where did all this come from?

                      what is the adl doing about this steven... if they are so much into anti-defamation?
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                        Re: 911 part 2

                        Sun, April 25, 2010 - 11:44 AM
                        and before someone start whining about another anti-zionism thread...

                        this topic of zionism and 911 is the topic at hand. it needs to be investigated thoroughly.

                        i'm putting this group on the table along with the other possibilities.
                      • Re: 911 part 2

                        Sun, April 25, 2010 - 11:48 AM
                        "and what is the adl doing about the assaults on islam?"

                        The ADL's charter is:

                        ""The immediate object of the League is to stop, by appeals to reason and conscience and, if necessary, by appeals to law, the defamation of the Jewish people. Its ultimate purpose is to secure justice and fair treatment to all citizens alike and to put an end forever to unjust and unfair discrimination against and ridicule of any sect or body of citizens."

                        ADL Charter October 1913"

                        www.adl.org/about.asp
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                          Re: 911 part 2

                          Sun, April 25, 2010 - 12:12 PM
                          that's like me condoning the activity of christian extremism.

                          i think most get stroked with the broad brush. i want no part of it.
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                            Re: 911 part 2

                            Sun, April 25, 2010 - 12:16 PM
                            and where does the adl stand on this wave of anti-christianity?
                            • Re: 911 part 2

                              Sun, April 25, 2010 - 1:26 PM
                              "and where does the adl stand on this wave of anti-christianity?"

                              I'm sure they stand against any religious bigotry but their radar screen is pretty full of what's happening in their neck of the woods.
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  • Out, Damn'd Spot

    Sun, April 25, 2010 - 11:58 AM
    Out, Damned Spot

    (With apologies to Wm. Shakespeare.)

    The second impacting plane on 911 was Flight 175. This impact with its spectacular fireball which made the covers of newspapers and magazines world wide and even had a “devil” photoshopped into the smoke cloud for popular titillation might well be characterized as the “money shot” of 911 and was part and parcel of the psyop that was the false flag terror event.
    The aircraft had to be precisely targeted in order to hit the building in the most spectacular fashion. It had to impact a building corner so that the fireball would expand photogenically into the air, and it had to impact the corner most visually accessible to the by then assembled press. It shouldn’t be surprising therefore that there is evidence of precision guidance systems having been used for precise targeting. There were probably multiple, redundant guidance and beacon systems in place to insure a precise hit.
    In the videos below is evidence of an infrared guidance system having been used to precisely guide Flight 175 into the WTC tower. In some of the “home” level video cameras of that time disabling the “hot mirror” button would allow the camera to “see” infrared, and that is apparently what happened when an innocent bystander was filming the impact of Flight 175.

    Assembling 911 false flag evidence from online video is a piecemeal affair, and to get an accurate picture of events one must often gather the best of several videos while discarding the erroneous or dubious. No one person seems to ever get the entire picture, but by looking at various sources a logical picture of events begins to emerge. The first video has excellent views of the infrared laser spot and the analysis of the dynamics is excellent, but it fails in my opinion towards then end when it asserts that two fleeting images are evidence of drones which must have been the source for the infrared beam. In my opinion, those are just birds. A much more likely source of the infrared projection is the helicopter seen emitting an intense and highly localized energy caught briefly on film at the end of the second video as the chopper flew away from the impact scene. Unfortunately, in the second video one must first endure some dubious theories about Flight 175 having been a holographic projection when it is more likely that missing or truncated wings were an effect of photographic pixilation, but both videos selectively taken together paint a very compelling picture of what may have happened.

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    www.youtube.com/watch

    (Infrared laser targeting guidance of Flight 175)

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    www.youtube.com/watch

    (At the end of this otherwise dubious video is a shot of the helicopter leaving the impact scene. In the previous video the same helicopter can also be glimpsed flying away in the upper part of the screen just after impact)
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    www.youtube.com/watch

    www.youtube.com/watch

    www.youtube.com/watch

    (Eyewitness accounts of the Flight 175 being non-civilian or military craft)


    www.youtube.com/watch
    (The “pod” on the belly or the “Flight 175” craft)

    • Re: Out, Damn'd Spot

      Wed, April 28, 2010 - 7:27 PM
      I have posted the above on several tribe sites. It is very curious how the usual 911 troll barrage is avoiding the subject like the plague.
      • More observations

        Thu, April 29, 2010 - 9:30 AM
        Quote below from:
        letsrollforums.com/laser-li...6901.html


        "That should get the conversation going! I've been researching the "laser" for 4 years now since I saw the link posted on this very site of the compiled CP footage. My background is in long range guided missile technology (and back in those days we didn't have GPS, we HAD to "paint" a target!). I knew the moment I saw the first "laser" clip exactly what it was. What confounded me the last 4 years was the source. In my experience you could "paint" from above, but you got more accuracy from having a man on the ground (stability of image etc). This one did not display the charactistics of ground support because of its movement ACROSS the "target".

        It wasn't until about 6 months ago that I finally downloaded the file and watched the entire video. With a killer sound system on my computer and in full screen I sat and watched (looking for more laser of course) and when that little drone zipped by it took my breath away. My excitement sounded just like Phil's when I spoke to him last night. Yes guys, you had it the whole time! You will see in the other attached videos above that this is a confirmed event."

        Sorry it took me so long to shed light on this, but I guess now is better than never!!"

        Don't know about the attributed laser source, but the technical recognition of an IR laser spot is intriguing. I have a friend whose brother works in LIDAR research, and he is also convinced it is an IR laser guidance spot.
        • Re: More observations

          Thu, April 29, 2010 - 12:27 PM
          Here is a good page on IR laser guidance and dynamics with some stop and go video of the south tower laser spot in a Youtube video to accompany the article.

          www.foxfire1.com/laser-spe...1-evidence
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            Re: More observations

            Thu, April 29, 2010 - 12:37 PM
            pp: "...Here is a good page on IR laser guidance and dynamics with some stop and go video of the south tower laser spot in a Youtube video to accompany the article. ..."

            >>> I'm not convinced. First of all, the fact that the IR gets picked up by a camera that doesn't seem to be in night vision mode. How is that possible? And how can that IR dot be so strong it reflects off of fire? Seems like a stretch to me, but I'm first to admit that I have no expertise in this area.

            So what is it, a controlled demolition or a plane filled with explosions? Coz if there was time to plant explosives, I'm sure there was a better way to send a signal from the tower for a plane to home in on, other than a massive superstrong IR laser dot that can be picked up by regular camera's.

            For now, I think a bird or piece of paper is a better explanation of that dot.
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              Re: More observations

              Thu, April 29, 2010 - 12:39 PM
              >>> It's grainy pixelated youtube video's like this that give the truth movement it's amateur status, not to mention it could be CG'd.
              Not sure if it aids the cause to be honest.
              • Re: More observations

                Thu, April 29, 2010 - 1:14 PM
                apparently, more than a few people here suffer from VisualCortex Impairment. My eyesight is not-so-great, but my Brain has NO Question that the Light tracing its way across the face of the WTC tower ..... across the fireball, and then, in a perfect line continuing onto the adjacent building face (blinking in & out of visibility as it follows the COntOur of the Buildings .......... ) .... I mean Really? How can you Possibly Imagine this is Anything but a focused (laser) light ? ...... the Light is Projected and Trained (from the guidance drone camera system) to Create computer Co-ordinate Alignments through the drone in realtime ..... and This is Fed to the Robot Airliner computer guidance system (perhaps as redundant backup in case of failure of the robot airliner's guidance capabilities)
                Even If it were Cg'd, (anyone have some of the older/original videos?) the Case is Already IronClad, except in the minds of those who Don't have a handle on how Steel Structures behave, and What it Takes for them to Fail in a Way remotely Resembling a controlled demolition (it Takes a Controlled Demolition to Appear-as a controlled demolition, because Limited Failure in a MASSIVE STEEL/Concrete Building SYSTEM results in Limited-localized FailUres!, i.e., slumpover-sideways, Partial collapses, to-Be-Precise)

                Try this: hotglue your dominoes/or/lincoln logs up into a structure, then remove the glue from some near the upper middle, and pull these out with strings...... does it all domino down neatly, or sideways/incomPletely (?) IF you cast a concrete core inside the tensile members and join it all up...... does the concrete vaporize/collapse with the tensile stick structure?
                We were ALL Trained-to-be-StuPid O'BeDient in the Skool-oopids ........ some of us Moved On from That
              • Re: More observations

                Thu, April 29, 2010 - 1:38 PM
                Pixilated my ass. The perfect coincidence of that light with the last moments of banking and the impact point and coincidence of the spot are too perfect, and the fact that it flickers in time with the fenestrations of the buildings sure as hell means it is not a "piece of paper."
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                  Re: More observations

                  Thu, April 29, 2010 - 1:53 PM
                  what a terrible tragedy....
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                    Re: More observations

                    Thu, April 29, 2010 - 2:06 PM
                    a Tragedy CREATED by the Very People who Assert Control over our lives Daily through our Government, finance, education, Medical, religious, scientific, industrial, and Other Centralized Systems.

                    I don't so much seek to directly oppose them, as I encourage us All (with free minds) to resist, frustrate, replace or dismantle, identify, uncover, & Abandon their influences ..... to Salvage our Lives from the Madness-that-Asserts-with-deadly-contempt-for-life Under-the-Guise-of-authoritative-establishmentarian-intelligence (as witnessed in those who seek to "reNorm" us and our "errant-ways-of-thinking")

                    (screams of laughffterr hear, but for the tearful vigilance of Sobered memory)
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                  Re: More observations

                  Thu, April 29, 2010 - 1:57 PM
                  You don't think the youtube video is pixelated?

                  As for you Leslie, can you explain to me why they wouldn't just install a homing device inside the tower somewhere, while they are already in there planting demolition charges?

                  Am I the only one who thinks it's a bit risky to use such a laser (it doesn't seem to be very stable on the target... if the plane was a little late they would've missed) that can be recorded by any camera in broad daylight, even though they spent weeks inside the towers rigging it up for controlled demolition?

                  pp"...The perfect coincidence of that light with the last moments of banking..."

                  >>> Yeah, a second or two later and the whole thing would've failed it the plane responds that fast. What if a bird or cloud had obscured the view? I find it hard to believe that the entire operation would hinge on that IR laser being shot from another moving airplane, especially when the evidence is a compressed youtube video that isn't anywhere near HD. There should be several other video's with the exact same dot and trajectory right?
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                    Re: More observations

                    Thu, April 29, 2010 - 1:58 PM
                    Also, why not shoot that laser from a rooftop somewhere? Would be much more stable and you wouldn't have a suspicious airplane flying overhead right after impact...

                    I think this might be yet another red herring, much like the holographic plane 'theories'...
                    • Re: More observations

                      Thu, April 29, 2010 - 2:05 PM
                      It may have been shot from a roof somewhere. Can't rule that out either. If it is hand held to visually and on the fly overcorrect for a too deviant aircraft then it would be slightly shaky for sure.
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                    Re: More observations

                    Thu, April 29, 2010 - 2:04 PM
                    Here is a deeper analysis (below.). As for homing beacons, I'll bet there was one but with an operation of this sensitivity there were no doubt multiple redundancies. Certainly the fact that both planes just "happened" to hit the usually unoccupied floors where the banks of UPS's were allows for the placement of an inbuilding homing beacon as well. The flight characteristics of the plane were also a giveaway. The spot on the buildings is certainly not too pixilated to see. It is not some blurry thing , and as the very first video of the thread shows the spots can be seen reflecting off of a more distant building to the far right.

                    the911forum.freeforums.org/nist....html
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                    Re: More observations

                    Thu, April 29, 2010 - 2:23 PM
                    Redundancies, testing-of-redundant systems, enBoldened LACK-of-Concern over "taking Every Possible Precaution to cover-up", .......... OverConfidence that even IF people got onto the Military System Presence, ... that an UpRising would Only give them Excuse to CRUSH the "whacko conspiracy theorists" .......

                    so, yes, probably was a homing device, and yes, probably was Also the Optical Laser Guidance Systems Testing Opportunity that was taken Advantage of by one of the many Weapons Systems dept.s ..... all they need Now is an Excuse to round-up those who Oppose the Treason..... so they can Accuse (viciously ironic) ! Treason ! Against those who see Clearly the madness-in-Power
                    To that i say: 2012 is Far Beyond what can Be Brought Under This Control System that holds us Hostage ...... the Galaxy is a Power of incomprehensible beauty&Balance ......... and a ReBalancing in ON-the-Calendar! (didn't you get the memo?)
                • Re: More observations

                  Thu, April 29, 2010 - 2:16 PM
                  By the way, Google video's version of the footage is clearer:

                  video.google.com/videoplay
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                    Re: More observations

                    Thu, April 29, 2010 - 2:53 PM
                    Lots of people find Jennifer Spell to be a "person of interest." The chain of coincidences which placed her just so with just such a camera sounds suspiciously like "another one of those things" which have accumulated around 911 and are piled high to the sky. I have heard it speculated from some that the IR laser video is a limited hangout designed to point a finger away from say, Israel, to implicate other sectors of the op should the op gets busted (as it is now in the court of public opinion) and various sectors start trying to point fingers away from themselves and toward the other players. An IR laser paint sounds more like something only elements within our armed forces would be capable of doing especially if it was omitted from a plane in emergency walled off airspace, so tossing a little evidence that way into the public arena is a little "insurance" that if one sector of the "players starts getting made the fall guy then they can trot out other evidence exposing the rest of the cast of players. Sounds plausible to me, or it's just another one of those fuckups that plague any big and risky op like the 911 false flag. The refusal of WTC 7 to drop under cover of the big tower collapse across the street was another likely fuckup.
                    It's very damn funny these guys thought they could finally get away with this op. What dumbass hubris.

                    letsrollforums.com/laser-li...6901.html
                    • Re: More observations

                      Thu, April 29, 2010 - 3:01 PM
                      right, let the Military take the heat ........ because they're not even Afraid of the consequences .... while the real Issue is over Who gave the Original Directives that Resulted in Military Participation? the Whole Thing gets SOOO complicated that it could get tied up in Extreme Controversy / Protracted-Investigations for YEARS, .... and it hasn't even Come-to-Light in the Mainstream Consciousness ..... YET
                      • Re: More observations

                        Thu, April 29, 2010 - 9:42 PM
                        Most of the military I have talked to are furious about the 911 con and furious that the "military" is being swept up in taking the rap. What is more likely is that certain little groups within the military, especially on the defensive end, made damn sure the defense system failed spectacularly and all across the board simultaneously. I know a retired Army major who thinks Rumsfeld ought to be publically hanged for his obvious and purposeful dereliction of duty on 911. Traitors of that magnitude used to be publically hanged.
                        • CIA Official Says 9/11 An Inside Job

                          Mon, May 3, 2010 - 10:42 AM
                          prisonplanet.com/articles/...idejob.htm
                          (And let me remind Hoopes preemptively that though he casts aspersions on Alex Jones the content of this article originates from the thoughts and observations of the former CIA officer - not Alex Jones)


                          28-Year Career CIA Official Says 9/11 An Inside Job
                          Highlights missing Pentagon trillions as potential motive

                          Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | September 7 2006

                          A 28-year CIA career man and a former skeptic of alternative 9/11 explanations has gone further than ever before in voicing his convictions that the attacks bore the hallmarks of an inside job and the three buildings in the WTC complex were brought down by controlled demolition.

                          Bill Christison is a former senior official of the CIA. He was a National Intelligence Officer and the Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis before his retirement in 1979. Since then he has written numerous articles on U.S. foreign policies.

                          In Christison's recent article, Stop Belittling the Theories About September 11, he afforded credibility to the notion that "significant parts" of the official 9/11 story were false and after careful research he concluded that the twin towers and building 7, "were most probably destroyed by controlled demolition charges placed in the buildings."

                          Christison went further on The Alex Jones Show, agreeing that the attacks being an inside job was the "most likely possibility."

                          "David Griffin believes this all was totally an inside job - I've got to say I think that it was too," said Christison.

                          Christison initially approached the subject unwilling to even consider that elements of the government could be engaged in such heights of criminality but his research quickly began to change his mind.

                          "Just about half a year ago it dawned on me that not only was I trying to avoid an issue that might be extraordinarily important - more important than any other issue," said Christison.

                          "I have since decided that....at least some elements in this US government had contributed in some way or other to causing 9/11 to happen or at least allowing it to happen."

                          Christison (pictured) stated that the suspicious collapse of the three buildings, including building 7 which wasn't hit by a plane, were likely the result of controlled demolitions.

                          "The reason that the two towers in New York actually collapsed and fell all the way to the ground was controlled explosions rather than just being hit by two airplanes."

                          "All of the characteristics of these demolitions show that they almost had to have been controlled explosions."

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                          Referencing the 2.3 trillion dollars that was discovered to be missing from the Pentagon's coffers, Christison emphasized the fact that with an unlimited budget, the scope of operations that could be undertaken by the military-industrial complex are almost without recourse.

                          "There is so much money now sloshing around throughout not only the CIA but the intelligence components of the Defense Department - which are actually bigger than the CIA - that these guys can do almost anything they want these days."

                          Christison said that one of the subsidiary motives behind 9/11 was to take attention away from an impending exposure of the missing trillions and criminal proceedings against high officials - just as LBJ had Kennedy assassinated partly to delay imminent corruption probes that would have sent him to prison.

                          Christison is just the latest in a deluge of former government and intelligence agency insiders to boldly go public with their doubts about the official story behind 9/11 and he has an urgent message for future whistleblowers who might be considering the same course of action.

                          "We have got to be willing to be discredited, we have got to stick our necks out - this is just plain too important."
                          • Re: CIA Official Says 9/11 An Inside Job

                            Mon, May 3, 2010 - 11:20 AM
                            What do you know about the circumstances surrounding Christison's retirement in 1979? What's he been doing for the past 30 years? How do you know he's not just another crackpot conspiracy theorist? Why would you trust the word of someone who's former CIA?
                            • Re: CIA Official Says 9/11 An Inside Job

                              Mon, May 3, 2010 - 12:16 PM
                              911proof.com/7.html

                              Christenson is just one of hundreds. His amalysis and that of others can be found linked at the site above.

                              I especially find interesting the Sibel Edmonds whistleblowing interview linked to on that site at the head of my post. Here it is:

                              baltimorechronicle.com/050704...s.shtml

                              "SE: I cannot confirm that for sure, but I can tell you that there is so much involvement, that if they did let this information out, and if they were to hold real investigations--I'm not talking about this semi-investigation they're holding under this "Joint Inquiry"--the pure show of the 9/11 Commission that has been getting the mass media's attention. If they were to do real investigations we would see several significant high level criminal prosecutions in this country. And that is something that they are not going to let out. And, believe me; they will do everything to cover this up. And I am appalled. I am really surprised. I'm taken back by seeing the mass media's reaction to this. They are the window to our government's operation and what are they doing?"

                              • Re: CIA Official Says 9/11 An Inside Job

                                Mon, May 3, 2010 - 4:29 PM
                                "Christenson is just one of hundreds."

                                I think the nutwad count is probably in the tens of thousands by now.
                                • Re: CIA Official Says 9/11 An Inside Job

                                  Mon, May 3, 2010 - 5:47 PM
                                  Yes, that Sibel Edmonds - what a nut!
                                  You know, Hoopes compared to a coward and a dssembler like yourself people like Sibel Edmonds are several magnitudes of better any day. Sibel Edmonds is a good and brave person - a genuine hero. What are you by comparison? Just about mothing.
                                  • Re: CIA Official Says 9/11 An Inside Job

                                    Mon, May 3, 2010 - 7:30 PM
                                    "What are you by comparison? Just about nothing."

                                    And where, exactly, would that put you?
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                                      Re: CIA Official Says 9/11 An Inside Job

                                      Tue, May 4, 2010 - 12:42 AM
                                      Adios MIa .....

                                      hope things go good for you ...

                                      Blessings
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                                        Alan Sabrosky 100% Sure Israel Zionist did 9/11 -
                                        www.youtube.com/view_play_list

                                        Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D., University of Michigan) is a writer and consultant specializing in national and international security affairs. In December 1988, he received the Superior Civilian Service Award after more than five years of service at the U.S. Army War College as Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute, and holder of the General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research. He is listed in WHO'S WHO IN THE EAST (23rd ed.). A Marine Corps Vietnam veteran and a 1986 graduate of the U.S. Army War College, Dr. Sabrosky's teaching and research appointments have included the United States Military Academy, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Middlebury College and Catholic University; while in government service, he held concurrent adjunct professorships at Georgetown University and the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). Dr. Sabrosky has lectured widely on defense and foreign affairs in the United States and abroad. You can email Dr. Alan Sabrosky at: docbrosk@comcast.net
                                        • "He is listed in WHO'S WHO IN THE EAST (23rd ed.). A Marine Corps Vietnam veteran and a 1986 graduate of the U.S. Army War College, Dr. Sabrosky's teaching and research appointments have included the United States Military Academy, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Middlebury College and Catholic University; while in government service, he held concurrent adjunct professorships at Georgetown University and the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). Dr. Sabrosky has lectured widely on defense and foreign affairs in the United States and abroad."

                                          Academic non-credentials. Adjunct professorships don't mean much at all. Anyone who mentions a Who's Who listing--especially for a regional edition--isreally stretching it.
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                                            9-11 In the Arms of the Angel
                                            www.youtube.com/watch
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                                              9/11 The Falling Man

                                              Mon, May 10, 2010 - 5:05 PM
                                              9/11 The Falling Man www.youtube.com/watch

                                              9/11 was one of the most pivotal events in world history. Its impact will be felt for years to come. You owe it to yourself to go beyond the sound bites and the simplified official story. This is an extremely complicated story with numerous players and motives. The 9/11 information doesn't all make sense or fit neatly together. It's a story full of espionage, deceit, and lies. But if there are forces out there tricking us, they can only succeed if we, the general public, remain ignorant and passive.
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                                                puts things in perspective in this bullshit thread...

                                                Firemen Hearing People Falling Through Glass - Jumping 9/11
                                                This is a clip taken inside the World Trade Center by a Frenchman. You can hear people falling through the glass in the lobby after jumping from the towers.

                                                www.youtube.com/watch
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                                                  9-11 Victim's Wall

                                                  Mon, May 10, 2010 - 5:38 PM
                                                  • Re: 9-11 Victim's Wall

                                                    Mon, May 10, 2010 - 11:41 PM
                                                    Israel has been a useful gadfly for globalist projects and interests. They keep the pot stirred in an area of the world where the US has strategic interests in hydrocarbons but where an upfront statement about those cravings would be unseemly, so we continue to allow Israel to provoke the Arab world so that they can be made bogeymen and give us an excuse to "retaliate" by invasion and seizure of oil assets and strategic rights of way. It is a miracle play really with Israel playing the part of the martyr. The fanatic right in Israel could never have pulled off their part of the op (the Tower collapses mainly) without the aquiescence of networks "over here," so they are not the sole players in the false flag; but they are at this point the most easily visible. That they so willingly allowed themselves to be lured into this project demonstrates just how loony the Likkudists et al really are. In the court of public opinion their role in the op has been terribly obvious. There was no way that it would not be. Perhaps they did not foresee in 2001 how pervasive fast internet connections would be in the ensuing years and how easy it would be for large numbers of civilians to discern patterns and work our connections, or maybe they just figured they would be protected by a sympathetic administration (they were right) but finally one is just amazed at the level of hubris and recklessness shown by these people. They really are blinded by ideological and ethnic fantasies though the prospect of making Israel a major oil terminus for both Caspian amd Middle East oil pipelines most certainluy dangled a big money carrot at them too.
                                                    The real masterminds and enablers of the op are "over here." They are Cheney and Rumsfeld and a whole bunch of other folks in the defense industry whose cup overfloweth with war monies. Praise Allah indeed.
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                                                      Re: 9-11 Victim's Wall

                                                      Tue, May 11, 2010 - 5:41 AM
                                                      how far does this promised land from God go? this is a very important concept to keep in mind when talking about the middle east crisis. i'll state it again... i'm in agreement with some of the views of the hesidic jews on this one. i don't believe that Yahweh is gathering up His people back to the promise land. i think satan is. he wants it for himself. now, in this respect, i agree with what the bible tells me.

                                                      that entire region is a hot bed of dark forces. it vibrates around the universe and has caused conflict, death and terror ever since. add to that the massive deception that is going on with powers at the top. it's majorly effecting america as well. in a massive way.

                                                      i think these christian zionists have it backwards. i don't believe that this is Yahweh doing this. just my thoughts on the matter. to you hoopes... you've even made reference to this land that has been promised by Yahweh to the people.

                                                      to those who pray... i'd be praying for the truth on this one. i intend to do so.

                                                      Promised Land
                                                      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promised_Land


                                                      The Promised Land (Hebrew: הארץ המובטחת‎, translit.: ha-Aretz ha-Muvtachat) is a term used to describe the land promised by God, according to the Hebrew Bible, to the Israelites. The promise is firstly made to Abraham (Genesis 15:18-21) and then renewed to his son Isaac, and to Isaac's son Jacob (Genesis 28:13), Abraham's grandson. The promised land was given to their descendants and was described in terms of the territory from the River of Egypt to the Euphrates river.

                                                      Divine promise
                                                      The promise that is the basis of the term is contained in several verses of Genesis in the Torah. In Genesis 12:1 it is said:

                                                      The LORD had said to Abram, "Leave your country, your people and your father's household and go to the land I will show you."
                                                      and in Genesis 12:7:

                                                      The LORD appeared to Abram and said, "To your offspring [or seed] I will give this land."
                                                      Commentators note that it is to Abram's descendants that the land will (in the future tense) be given, not to Abram directly nor there and then. However, in Genesis 15:7 it is said:

                                                      He also said to him, "I am the LORD, who brought you out of Ur of the Chaldeans to give you this land to take possession of it."
                                                      And in Genesis 15:18-21 the boundary of the promised land is defined in terms of the territory of various ancient peoples, as follows:

                                                      “ On that day the LORD made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates - the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." ”

                                                      The verse is said to describe what are known as "borders of the Land" (Gevulot Ha-aretz).[1] In Jewish tradition, these borders define the maximum extent of the land promised to the descendants of Abraham through his son Isaac and grandson Jacob.[2]

                                                      The promise was confirmed to Jacob at Genesis 28:12-15, though the borders are still vague and is in terms of "the land on which you are lying".

                                                      More precise geographical borders are given in Exodus 23:31 which describes borders as marked by the Red Sea, the "Sea of the Philistines" i.e the Mediterranean, and the "River," (the Euphrates) the traditional furthest extent of the Kingdom of Israel under David.[3][4]

                                                      Descendants of Abraham
                                                      Traditional Jewish interpretation, and that of most Christian commentators, define Abraham's descendants only as Abraham's seed through his son Isaac and his grandson Jacob.[5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] Johann Friedrich Karl Keil is less clear, as he states that the covenant is through Isaac, but notes that Ishmael's descendants have held much of that land through time.[16]

                                                      Mainstream Jewish tradition regards the promise made to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as having been given to all Jews, including converts and in turn their descendants.[citation needed]

                                                      Reference in the Qur'an
                                                      There is a reference to the Promised Land in the Qur'an:

                                                      The Qur'an, chapter 17 (Al-Isra), verse 104: “ — translated by Unknown

                                                      www.usc.edu/schools/coll....html#017.104 (Translation by)YUSUFALI: And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd. (Translation by)PICKTHAL: And We said unto the Children of Israel after him: Dwell in the land; but when the promise of the Hereafter cometh to pass We shall bring you as a crowd gathered out of various nations. (Translation by)SHAKIR: And We said to the Israelites after him: Dwell in the land: and when the promise of the next life shall come to pass, we will bring you both together in judgment.

                                                      (moreover that it is an sign of the last hour (Doomsday). Because in this verse Allah used the word "Our Promise" (in various verses "Allah's Promise" said to be the Judgement Day).




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                                                        Re: 9-11 Victim's Wall

                                                        Tue, May 11, 2010 - 5:42 AM
                                                        there is a map of the land that this encompasses on the wiki site.
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                                                          Re: 9-11 Victim's Wall

                                                          Tue, May 11, 2010 - 6:01 AM
                                                          Covenant (biblical)
                                                          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cove...(biblical)

                                                          The Israel covenant
                                                          The Israel covenant[Deut. 29:1-29] [30:1-10] is a conditional covenant between God and the children of Israel. After warning that Israel will be dispersed among the nations, and conditional to Israel's repentance, return to God, and obedience to the Mosaic law. In regard to this covenant Israel and the Jewish people are referenced separately so that when God refers to Israel he is referencing the descendants of Ephraim.[Jer 31:9-10] The Lord also references that he has chosen Israel over Judah a.k.a. the Jewish people in regard to the return to the land. [Jer 3:11-14] God promises:

                                                          That Israel would lose their identity[Isa 7:8]
                                                          That while Israel (Ephraim) will become many nations between the Nile and the Euphrates, yet only a remnant of the people of Ephraim will return[Isa 10:22]
                                                          That Israel and Judah will be at war with each other, but that the Lord would bring about a peace between Israel and Judah[Zech 9:10]

                                                          [Jer 30:1-7]
                                                          That Ephraim would return to Lebanon and Gilead, which is located in Western Jordan [Zech 10:7-10] However, the only people living in these areas now are the Arab peoples. The Palestinian Refugee camps are also located in these locations
                                                          That there would be a conflict between Ephraim and many other nations of the World[Deut 33:17] [Zech 9:13]
                                                          The remnant that will return from Ephraim will be the descendants of those who did not bow to Baal[1 Kings 19:10-18]
                                                          That a new nation of Ephraim will form south of Israel in Saudi Arabia or Egypt. A nation the Jewish people will refer to as Sodom[Ezek 16:46,49]
                                                          To regather Israel from its dispersion and unite them with Judah, but that Judah would not recognize them [Ezek 16:59-63] [Deut 33:9]
                                                          That a people who are called "Not his people" will be called his people[Hos 1:10]
                                                          To bring the Israelites to the land which their fathers possessed (here named Land of Canaan)[Hos 1:11]
                                                          To prosper the Israelites above their fathers.
                                                          To restore the Israelites spiritually so that Israel will love the Lord with all their heart and soul
                                                          To put all the curses of Israel upon Israel's enemies
                                                          That the descendants of Judah, a.k.a. the Jewish people would return to where their family "Israel" already was [Deut 33:7]

                                                          Davidic covenant
                                                          The Davidic covenant[2 Sam 7] establishes David and his descendants as the rightful kings of Judah until the Messiah comes.[Gen 49:10] In Christian theology, the Davidic covenant is an important element of Jesus' claim to be the Messiah (see also Nativity of Jesus). Christian scholar John F. Walvoord maintains that the Davidic covenant deserves an important place in determining the purposes of God and that its exegesis confirms the doctrine of a future reign of Christ on earth.[3] According to Christian theology, the "features" or provisions of the Davidic covenant are found in 2 Samuel 7:12-16. Among conservative theologians, the opinion is unanimous that Christ fulfills the Davidic Covenant, the provisions of which include the following items:

                                                          David is to have a child, yet to be born, who shall succeed him and establish his kingdom.
                                                          This son (Solomon) shall build the temple instead of David.
                                                          The throne of his kingdom shall be established forever.
                                                          The throne will not be taken away from him (Solomon) even though his sins justify chastisement.
                                                          David’s house, throne, and kingdom shall be established forever.[3]
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                                                            Re: 9-11 Victim's Wall

                                                            Tue, May 11, 2010 - 6:02 AM
                                                            Covenant (biblical)
                                                            From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                                                            This article is about biblical covenants. For other uses, see Covenant (disambiguation).
                                                            A biblical covenant is an agreement found in the Bible "between God and his people in which God makes certain promises and requires certain behavior from his people in return (conditional covenant)".[1] It is the customary word used to translate the Hebrew word berith (ברית Tiberian Hebrew bərîṯ Standard Hebrew bərit) as it is used in the Tanakh 135 times (see appended list), thus it is important to all Abrahamic religions. The equivalent word in the Septuagint and the Greek New Testament is διαθήκη/diatheke (Strong's G1242).

                                                            In theology and Biblical studies, the word "covenant" principally refers to any of a number of solemn agreements made between God and the children of Israel in the Hebrew Bible, as well as to the New Covenant, which some Christians consider to be the replacement or final fulfilment of these, see Supersessionism. Likewise, some Christians use the term "Old Covenant" to collectively refer to the covenants described in their "Old Testament".
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                                                              Re: 9-11 Victim's Wall

                                                              Tue, May 11, 2010 - 6:05 AM
                                                              this should have gone on israel's thread. an error on my part
                                                              • Re: 9-11 Victim's Wall

                                                                Wed, May 26, 2010 - 12:05 PM
                                                                www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sion.html

                                                                The CIA had the means and the inclination to fake the Osama "confession" tapes as well.
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                                                                  Re: 9-11 Victim's Wall

                                                                  Wed, May 26, 2010 - 6:36 PM
                                                                  • Practice Run for Nine One One

                                                                    Wed, May 26, 2010 - 7:12 PM
                                                                    Practice Run for Nine One One

                                                                    The Oklahoma City Bombing shared many features with the 911 false flag event.

                                                                    www.bibliotecapleyades.net/soci...3.htm

                                                                    “20 eyewitnesses saw two men in the Ryder truck, each one described the second man as middle eastern and said it absolutely was not Terry Nichols (the patsy John Doe 2 agents tried to blame). All 20 people filled out 302s, investigative reports, but none have ever surfaced. Also just like 9/11, the Pentagon’s 80 CCTVs, and the London Bombings in the tube, the 12 camera tapes at the Murrah building were seized and withheld, all for reasons of ‘national security.’”


                                                                    “Once Timothy McVeigh was arrested, all reports of the additional bombs inside the building ceased. The mainstream media quickly parroted the government line, and America was assured that the perpetrator(s) McVeigh/Nichols acted alone using a single truck bomb.

                                                                    This, however, has been disproved repeatedly.
                                                                    “Out of hundreds of people we interviewed, we couldn’t find a single person who said they’d only heard one explosion …The University of Oklahoma’s own seismographic reports, as well as the U.S. Geological Survey reports two different scientific institutions show multiple explosions. But for there to have been multiple explosions, Timothy McVeigh would have had to have accomplices... and that didn’t fit in with the federal story, especially if the reality showed that it had to be a group that had access to a federal building for long, extended periods of time, like the BATF and the FBI.”
                                                                    Alex Jones, “9-11 - Descent Into Tyranny”
                                                                    Even the US Air Force’s own 1997 blast effects study of the Oklahoma City bombing verified the impossibility of being the result of a single bomb.”

                                                                    _________________________________________________________________


                                                                    www.amazon.com/Final-Jiha.../0964704811

                                                                    A reader’s comment:
                                                                    “People have been blind for so long concerning the truth of the events of both OKC and 9/11. If you believe that Gov. Frank Keatings brother just 'happened' to write a story about the events that would take place a year later, you are not paying attention. Look at the amount of information that was revealed in this manuscript and how much of that information was dead center. Pain and catastrophic loss sometimes distract us but look at the truth that has been covered up and lied about.”


                                                                    www.apfn.org/thewinds/ar...ry02-99.html

                                                                    “ The immediate response to the bombing was the formation of a federal grand jury. It was organized to investigate the bombing and issue indictments against all perpetrators of the deadly terrorist attack. Hoppy Heidelberg was a member of that original grand jury. Heidelburg told The WINDS of his experience as a grand juror, the response of officials to his appeal for a comprehensive, independent investigation, and his removal from that position due to his insistence on conscientiously fulfilling his responsibilities.”
                                                                    “It was his attempts to discover these fundamental facts which brought about Heidelburg's sudden removal from the grand jury. After repeated attempts to have these crucial expert witnesses called he said, "I finally wrote the presiding judge a letter and told him. Once the judge had that letter he had a problem. If he had denied me those witnesses, then he would have been guilty of obstruction of justice, but if he had allowed me to have those witnesses, then I would have it figured out. So he didn't have any choice but to kick me off; that way he could prevent either one of those [allowing the expert witness testimony or the obstruction of justice charge] from happening. That's how he got out from between his rock and hard place."

                                                                    ___________________________________________________________

                                                                    blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm


                                                                    The Oklahoma “What Reallly Happened” Video:

                                                                    www.youtube.com/watch (7) This segment of the entire video below cuts to the chase concerning the highly unusual behavior of the BATF agents at the bombing site)

                                                                    www.youtube.com/watch (1)

                                                                    www.youtube.com/watch (2)

                                                                    www.youtube.com/watch (3)

                                                                    www.youtube.com/watch (4)

                                                                    www.youtube.com/watch (5)

                                                                    www.youtube.com/watch (6)

                                                                    www.youtube.com/watch (7)

                                                                    www.youtube.com/watch (8)

                                                                    • Next!

                                                                      Wed, June 2, 2010 - 9:35 AM
                                                                      www.youtube.com/watch

                                                                      Next question... please?

                                                                      (Infiltrating a Lucky Larry Silverstein love fest)
                                                                      • The 9/11 Perpetrators Timeline

                                                                        Sun, June 27, 2010 - 10:19 PM
                                                                        www.takeourworldback.com/911pe...ne.htm

                                                                        Extensive mapping of the 911 perp network with tons of juicy links. Highly recommended for the 911 fledgling.
                                                                        • 911 "Truthers" on FBI Terrorist List

                                                                          Sat, February 18, 2012 - 8:33 AM
                                                                          theintelhub.com/2012/02/13...terrorists/

                                                                          "Although all the supposed possible terrorists indicators are absolutely absurd, the fact that the FBI choose to specifically target 9/11 truthers shows how important, even after ten years, covering up the truth of the horrendous 9/11 attacks is to the powers that be."

                                                                          I can't think of any greater verification that 911 truthers are having a big effect
                                                                          • Re: 911 "Truthers" on FBI Terrorist List

                                                                            Sun, February 19, 2012 - 12:34 PM
                                                                            • Re: 911 "Truthers" on FBI Terrorist List

                                                                              Sun, February 19, 2012 - 9:05 PM
                                                                              Heehee!
                                                                              • Re: 911 "Truthers" on FBI Terrorist List

                                                                                Mon, February 27, 2012 - 3:11 PM
                                                                                The horse isn't dead unfortunately. The same crowd is still lurking about and there is a clear and present danger that their next performance will dwarf the 911 stage piece in violence and fear mongering. It is a continuing hilarity to watch the media after all these years running 911 tributes and reenectments designed to uphold the now badly faltering official conspiracy theory of 911. If anything the 911 cheerleading has grown more strident as there is a growing sense that the op is busted in public opinion. No one is beating a dead horse more than the military/industrial complex through their advertisers in the mainstream media.
                                                                                • Re: 911 "Truthers" on FBI Terrorist List

                                                                                  Tue, February 28, 2012 - 9:17 PM
                                                                                  >"The same crowd is still lurking about and there is a clear and present danger that their next performance will dwarf the 911 stage piece in violence and fear mongering."

                                                                                  Why? Because OBVIOUSLY, they'll be responsible for the coming shift in the Earth's magnetic poles.
                                                                                  • Re: 911 "Truthers" on FBI Terrorist List

                                                                                    Wed, February 29, 2012 - 6:17 AM
                                                                                    Much more mundane than that. How about a dirty bomb blamed on Iran? That is more likely.
                                                                                    • The Dirty Underwear of the Bomber

                                                                                      Wed, February 29, 2012 - 6:19 AM
                                                                                      www.youtube.com/watch

                                                                                      From BrasscheckTV:
                                                                                      "A lot of people still seem a little unclear on what a government
                                                                                      false flag is.

                                                                                      Who better to spell it out than a witness to the government false
                                                                                      flag we all know as the Christmas Day Underwear Bomber?

                                                                                      Kurt Haskell and his wife, two lawyers from Michigan, were on that
                                                                                      flight from Amsterdam when the half-wit Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab
                                                                                      set fire to his loins in an attempt to blow up the plane.

                                                                                      In this interview he describes the events they witnessed before
                                                                                      boarding the plane, on the plane, and after the plane landed in
                                                                                      Detroit.

                                                                                      At the sentencing hearing, Mr. Haskell was allowed to give a five
                                                                                      minute 'victim impact statement' before the Court, to describe how
                                                                                      the event affected him. What he had to say is disturbing. I've
                                                                                      included the text of that statement at the bottom of the page."
                                                                                      • Re: The Dirty Underwear of the Bomber

                                                                                        Wed, February 29, 2012 - 7:03 AM
                                                                                        Thanks! Good one.
                                                                                        • FBI FOILS OWN TERRORIST ATTACK AGAIN

                                                                                          Wed, February 29, 2012 - 2:27 PM
                                                                                          www.youtube.com/watch

                                                                                          From BrasscheckTV:
                                                                                          "The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has once again proven
                                                                                          that the only thing Americans need fear, is their own government,
                                                                                          with the latest "terror attack" foiled being one entirely of their
                                                                                          own design.

                                                                                          The FBI is carrying out what is essentially a campaign of
                                                                                          entrapment, as these 'patsies' serve to fuel fear and keep people
                                                                                          willing to give up their rights for a false sense of security.

                                                                                          It's not funny, but it IS interesting that, in each case, they
                                                                                          admit running the operation from the ground up and yet people still
                                                                                          fall for this fake terror routine.

                                                                                          Not as many any more though, as you'll see, fewer and fewer people are
                                                                                          falling for it... "
                                                                                          • Re: FBI FOILS OWN TERRORIST ATTACK AGAIN

                                                                                            Wed, February 29, 2012 - 8:10 PM
                                                                                            Another good one! Thanks.
                                                                                            • Fresh Kills Spook Out

                                                                                              Wed, March 14, 2012 - 12:24 PM
                                                                                              www.youtube.com/watch

                                                                                              The second person interviewed in this episode is a cop who worked the infamous Fresh Kills landfill just after the 911 false flag attack. He has some very intriguing things to report, but the first thing that comes to my mind when I listened to him was that pursuing 911 truth is not just an occupation of the living. There are entities working the other side too.
                                                                                              • Re: Fresh Kills Spook Out

                                                                                                Thu, March 15, 2012 - 12:06 AM
                                                                                                "There are entities working the other side too."

                                                                                                www.youtube.com/watch
                                                                                                • Re: Fresh Kills Spook Out

                                                                                                  Thu, March 15, 2012 - 5:27 AM
                                                                                                  I can easily understand why people of your ilk are terrified of the prospect that there may be an afterlife and a life review attendant upon it. People such as yourself have every reason to fear such a review.
                                                                                                  • Re: Fresh Kills Spook Out

                                                                                                    Thu, March 15, 2012 - 9:30 PM
                                                                                                    Yes, I'm terrified of Hell, just like all the people of my ilk.

                                                                                                    BTW, isn't Hell someplace in Arkansas?
                                                                                                    • Re: Fresh Kills Spook Out

                                                                                                      Fri, March 16, 2012 - 10:41 PM
                                                                                                      No Hoopes.

                                                                                                      They call it Mississippi.
                                                                                                      • A Public Service Announcement

                                                                                                        Sun, March 18, 2012 - 12:45 PM
                                                                                                        • "Solving 911"

                                                                                                          Thu, April 12, 2012 - 7:20 AM
                                                                                                          Got my first copies of Solving 911 in the mail today. It is full of juicy stuff about connections between Israeli owned companies and Mossad as they interface with the 911 false flag. Highly recommended for anyone who wants to know how the dastardly deed really went down. It also goes into how the same network has insinuated itself into the political process in America and also in the mass media thus effectively shutting down any public discussion of the event.
                                                                                                          Admittedly, a sudden public revelation of what really happened would be socially explosive. The manner in which it trickles out is probably the best for now even 11 years after. Averaging all of the polls together there is a rough idea that about 50 per cent of Americans know they were not told everything about 911.. Worldwide the percentage of doubters of the "official" story is higher.
                                                                                                          Figuring out the mechanism of false flag events is never more timely as we are probably going to be treated to another one in the near future and for pretty much the same reason that motivated the original 911 op.
                                                                                                          www.bollyn.com/index.php

                                                                                                          From page 184:
                                                                                                          "I have been told by reporters that they will not report their own insights or contrary evaluations of the official 9/11 story, because to question the government story about 9/11 is to question the very foundations of our entire modern belief system regarding our government, our country, and our way of life. To be charged with questioning these foundations is far more serious than being labeled a disgruntled conspiracy nut or anti-government traitor, or even being sidelined or marginalized within an academic, government service, or literary career. To question the official 9/11 story is simply and fundamentally revolutionary. In this way, of course, questioning the official story is also simply and fundamentally American."
                                                                                                          Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski (USAR ret.) 9-11and the American Empire:Intellectuals Speak Out, Vol1 (2006)
                                                                                                          • Re: "Solving 911"

                                                                                                            Thu, April 12, 2012 - 6:05 PM
                                                                                                            Thanks!
                                                                                                            • Netanyahu's 911 Imperative

                                                                                                              Mon, September 24, 2012 - 3:43 PM
                                                                                                              www.presstv.ir/detail/201...lid-on-911/

                                                                                                              "Netanyahu needs the 9/11-triggered 100-years-war on Islam to continue for the very good reason that if it does not, the State of Emergency still in place in the US will be lifted, and Americans, unencumbered by the National Security restrictions of wartime, will quickly learn what really happened on September 11th, 2001. That possibility poses a very real existential threat to Israel - and to Netanyahu.

                                                                                                              As Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Strategic Studies at the US Army War College, told Press TV: “I have had long conversations over the past two weeks with contacts at the Army War College, at the Headquarters Marine Corps, and I have made it absolutely clear in both cases that it is 100 percent certain that 9/11 was a Mossad operation. Period. If Americans ever know that Israel did this, they are going to scrub them off the earth.” And even if Israel were “scrubbed off the earth” peacefully through a one-state solution, Netanyahu would certainly hang for his role in the 9/11 attacks.

                                                                                                              Unfortunately for Netanyahu and Zionism, Dr. Sabrosky isn't the only US National Security insider leaking the truth about 9/11. A very large number of military and intelligence people have come forward.The two biggest recent leaks are revelations by CIA asset Susan Lindauer that the CIA had detailed foreknowledge of 9/11 and attributed the controlled demolitions of the three NYC skyscrapers to “those goddamned Israelis”; and the assertion by Gwenyth Todd, who worked beside Richard Clarke on the National Security Council, that Clarke (who was publicly fired from an earlier job for being an Israeli spy) is the top suspect as hands-on controller of 9/11 from the US end. Yes, you heard that right: Richard Clarke's colleague on the National Security Council, Gwenyth Todd, suspects Clarke of masterminding and running the 9/11 attacks. If Todd and other high-level sources are right about this, Clarke's book title Your Government Failed You is an understatement..."
                                                                                                              • A Guide to Hasbara Trolls

                                                                                                                Mon, September 24, 2012 - 3:47 PM
                                                                                                                beforeitsnews.com/power-eli...36339.html

                                                                                                                A Guide To Hasbara Trolls

                                                                                                                Introduction by Gilad Atzmon: We are all aware of the Hasbara trolls, the Wikipedia Jews and the Israeli Neocon smear outlets. In the following important piece internet expert Jonathon Blakeley explores the vile and destructive impact of Sayanim and Hasbara agents on the social networks. What we really see is a surge of Zio-centric anti- social behaviour in our midst. They are united against humanity, humanism, pluralism, freedom of expression and tolerance basically all those things that are precious to the rest of us.
                                                                                                                • 911 A Go Go

                                                                                                                  Fri, November 30, 2012 - 9:17 AM
                                                                                                                  Superb new video on the subject of the 911 false flag operation. These Youtubes are continuing to evolve and become more concise and clear as more and more "dots" are connected after a decade of hard research. As of now, I recommend this Youtube as numero uno for anyone wanting to understand the real forces and players behind 911.

                                                                                                                  www.youtube.com/watch
                                                                                                                  • Re: 911 A Go Go

                                                                                                                    Fri, November 30, 2012 - 11:34 AM
                                                                                                                    Brilliant! Thanks!

                                                                                                                    BTW, it's interesting that this is an 'unlisted video' on YouTube. Did you read the page that explains what that is? Wow!
                                                                                                                    • Re: 911 A Go Go

                                                                                                                      Wed, December 26, 2012 - 7:55 PM
                                                                                                                      I am filing this under the 911 thread because it is possibly yet another false flag attack engineered for political purposes.

                                                                                                                      As was hoped some dedicated sleuthing has turned up some very interesting stuff about the Sandy Hook Massacre. This smelled wrong from the beginning and the smell test may have come to our rescue once again in determining what actually happened.

                                                                                                                      www.brendanhunt.com/1/post/2...hree.html

                                                                                                                      "I am starting to think that Chris Rodia, who is facing serious time in jail, was hired to do this professional killing, and to blame it on the patsy Adam Lanza. And it turns out the Rodias and the Lanzas are connected."


                                                                                                                      www.brendanhunt.com/index.html

                                                                                                                      "Now I'd like to introduce a piece of evidence which might sound pretty odd at first. I was very skeptical when I heard it. I investigated the matter, and it checked out as legit, so now I'm passing it on to you: A caller on the Alex Jones Show gave a report from Newtown of an unverified rumor circulating amongst school staff that the shooters were described to be disguised as an ”organized group of nuns” which infiltrated the school property to carry out the shootings. Sounds crazy, right? Well get this: evidence has come forth that CORROBORATES these claims in the shocking audio capture of Newtown Police operations (see link above). At the very least, police officers on the day of the shooting believed that there were multiple suspects fleeing the scene in a purple van wearing ski masks and, possibly, nun outfits. Take a listen for yourself. At 1:34:19 it says, “Two occupants with possible ski masks”. and at 1:35:07, “One may be wearing a nun outfit, headed toward Danbury and Stoney Hill, purple van”."

                                                                                                                      "The Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre" - a movie made in 2000 perhaps leads us to the rabbit hole. Every NWO bored wealthy satanist group has an in-house video diarist to create custom porn and snuff flicks, so this little tidbit might bear looking into.
                                                                                                                      www.amazon.com/Sandy-Hook.../ref=sr_1_3

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