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I hear so much about these upcoming times and have learned a lot about the the celestrial things going on suggesting this and that and it all makes sense, and I don't doubt that something cataclymic COULD occur or even some ascension could take place.
But I wonder what's really going to happen? I hear some people could choose to leave during the opening to the closing of the portal in 2009-2017.
I'd like to hear opinions of what you all really believe to happen, whether its nothing, or natural cataclymic occurances, human destruction, or that maybe some people literally leave their bodies without neccessarily dying and ascend to the next dimension.
Or perhaps earth as an entirity and all its inhabitants will all ascend and in that case, how in the world would that happen?! But then what about free-will?
I have had scary apocolyptic dreams during various times in my life, and it all seems unnatural, usually a gov't or alien force that is doing something naughty.
Anyway, I wonder if I will be with my husband and children around 2012 and then one day I get this calling and I realize its time to ascend...
Thoughts, opinions, ideas...
~blessings~
Nicole
But I wonder what's really going to happen? I hear some people could choose to leave during the opening to the closing of the portal in 2009-2017.
I'd like to hear opinions of what you all really believe to happen, whether its nothing, or natural cataclymic occurances, human destruction, or that maybe some people literally leave their bodies without neccessarily dying and ascend to the next dimension.
Or perhaps earth as an entirity and all its inhabitants will all ascend and in that case, how in the world would that happen?! But then what about free-will?
I have had scary apocolyptic dreams during various times in my life, and it all seems unnatural, usually a gov't or alien force that is doing something naughty.
Anyway, I wonder if I will be with my husband and children around 2012 and then one day I get this calling and I realize its time to ascend...
Thoughts, opinions, ideas...
~blessings~
Nicole
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Thu, August 4, 2005 - 2:13 PMNicole,
As I grok it, it's all metaphor.
The poral is the opportunity for Choice, or rather, the widespread realization that we all have Choice. More and more people are coming to terms with the idea that it's all up to us; that what we choose is what our lives become.
Alien and Government nastiness? Sure. That's what governments do best. I'll reserve judgement on aliens until there's more data to draw conclusions from, but same thing there. If there are superior intelligences working against us, and sometimes I think there may be, there's not much we can do about it.
Government is a different story. Government has exactly as much power as we give them. When we start taking posession of Choice for ourselves, instead of being content to let others have control over it, then we'll be free. Ascend, if you will.
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Thu, August 4, 2005 - 2:20 PMThis is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.
- T.S. Eliot
www.cs.umbc.edu/~evans/hollow.html
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Thu, August 4, 2005 - 3:02 PMHmmm, that would be intersting if people wised up to the fact that we create our uhniverse by our thoughts and feeling and by what we expect. That's what I teach actually! I guess I am assisting...
Thanks for the poem ferrara- intersting... ...
I want to fly!!! I want to just BE in the tropics, not feeling like I have spiritual work to do, but just enjoying my loved ones around me and living off the land. I hear in the 4th dimension- all we need to do is think it and it's there immediately. That is what I'm looking forward to. I fly wround the tropics covered with beautiful crystals and beautiful nature. No insects. the birds will eat berries and nuts from the trees. Insects may live underground to help the soil, but that's it! Will I be able to go there in 2012 or thereabouts? -
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Thu, August 4, 2005 - 3:08 PMi think the only thing we have to fear is fear ourselves...
and bugs.
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Thu, August 4, 2005 - 3:14 PMI hate those dam bugs, wait, I am one...lol
So what type of teaching assisting are you teaching?
I think its like multi universes, like a big fractal, its all on different time lines, dimensions, ect. So 2012 might happen tomorrow for some, and never for others.
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Thu, August 4, 2005 - 6:34 PMOK . . .
Lets look at the facts.
1. The Mayan Time Science is correct in that it accurately mapped the last fifth of the full processional cycle.
2. In 2012 Earth will be in Galactic Alignment.
4. Sacred Geometry is creation theory. (some may disagree - but only if they haven't studied it yet :-)
3. The Universe is holographic in that all matter can be described as a series of waves.
4. Wave Theory and Fluid Dynamics (despite being complex) in their most basic form explain Resonance and Syncronicity in addition to Chaos.
5. Galactic Alignment will create a huge Wave of Resonance throughout our Solar System as the heavens complete their cycle.
6. Resonance will obliterate all Waves that are not close enough to resonant frequency or factors thereof (fact). All waves close to Resonance will be lifted to a state of Resonance (fact).
7. When waves Resonate there is a huge increase in energy (by factors).
Resonance = Acension
There will be a cleansing . . . of this I am sure . . . I don't mean to be proclaiming doom but Waves do what Waves do . . .
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Thu, August 4, 2005 - 6:51 PMi wonder how sacred geometry is a theory? who's idea is that? lol...
ascension has already begun. maybe the question is how is it happening?
flowing like the windy... *)
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Thu, August 4, 2005 - 7:57 PMHmm . . . Theory suggests it is yet to be proven . . . but I know what you mean . .
lol :-)
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Sat, August 6, 2005 - 8:47 AMSacred Geometry is ancient. Juzz bc the people with uropeans mind set are stuck in their 0/1 logic it does not mean that there are not any other posible values. i.e. juzz bc you cant see it, it does not mean is not there.
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Thu, August 4, 2005 - 8:27 PMi like the way you laid that out david...nice and simple and grasp-able...and i like where it goes, those in resonance become the 'highest common denominator', those out of phase become, well, obliterated white noise..
color me a tuning fork...
care to elaborate on #5? are we certain that the G alignment will create 'resonance' in a physics framework?
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Fri, August 5, 2005 - 1:48 AMey up, why are there 2 number 4s? and surely 4i is the same as 3, just another description. which means that 4i er...
so another one would be to describe it less cyclic and more springy. like an expanding coil. that way you can do without fact number 5.
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Fri, August 5, 2005 - 6:33 AM>1. The Mayan Time Science is correct in that it accurately mapped the last fifth of the full processional cycle.
2. In 2012 Earth will be in Galactic Alignment.
4. Sacred Geometry is creation theory. (some may disagree - but only if they haven't studied it yet :-)
3. The Universe is holographic in that all matter can be described as a series of waves.
4. Wave Theory and Fluid Dynamics (despite being complex) in their most basic form explain Resonance and Syncronicity in addition to Chaos.
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With you so far here...... despite the odd numbering sequence mentioned earlier......
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5. Galactic Alignment will create a huge Wave of Resonance throughout our Solar System as the heavens complete their cycle.
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Ok, where does this come from? This seems to be a huge leap. Maybe I'm missing something, and I'd like to know what it is.
What KIND of 'wave' exactly? The earth/sun/galactic center alignment happens farily frequently - it's just that on 12/21/2012 it will happen congruent with the winter soltice for the first time in a long time. So? I mean, it's cool and all, but there certainly won't be any gravitational or electromagnetic effects.
So what are we talking about here exactly?
Otter
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Fri, August 5, 2005 - 8:23 AMthanks glitch!
i lurrrrve when you lay it all out nice and graspable... gives me the shiverrrs.
those obliterated will reincarnate on another 3d world.
our work... should we choose to accept it, is to raise as many being's vibrational level up up up and up.
the most common and natural path for raising up our fellows is with unconditional lovelight.... spread the word.
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Fri, August 5, 2005 - 8:34 AMlol
yooz can keep yer wriggly fingers off-of my strings
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Fri, August 5, 2005 - 9:22 AMMy Apologies for the numerical error . . . re-arranged 3 and 4 . . . then forgot and continued :-)
OK . . . lets get into some more details . . .
When you suggest that Earth/Sun/Galactic alignment happens fairly frequently - how frequent do you suppose? If your talking every 25,920 years then you would be correct. Half that and I'd agree with you too - as just about every ancient culture in the world recorded a rather upsetting incident around one of those times . . . former ot later - take your pick?
You also mention that there certainly wont be any gravitational or electronmagnetic effects? On what basis do you make this presumption?
We're obviously going to have to get down to some more facts :-)
1. Einstein's Ralatively and Newtonian physics are for the most part wrong (they describe observable phenomena - but fail to identify 'why' things act they way they do.) I suggest reading Stan Byers "Randient Pressure Model of Remote Forces" to help clear things up:
home.netcom.com/~sbyers11/grav11.htm
It's the closest 'Unified Field Theory' your likely to find. It also is the only model I've seen that explains why pendulum's act strangely during a Solar Eclipse - which science has done it's best to ignore for the past 200 thousand years.
There is also vast amounts of scientific data and evidence that outlines what happens when various 'cosmic alighments' occur, the importance of the Sun/Earth connection and what happens when the Sun descides to do something strange :-)
try these for a start:
science.nasa.gov/newhome/h...ec99_1.htm
www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/istp/o...ot.html (Connection between Sun/Earth in particular)
www.ebicom.net/~rsf1/vel/solwin.htm
It's also worth mentioning that we have the Venus Tansit occuring in June 2012 which may well play a part in the whole thing.( Durring a Venus Transit, Venus lies directly in front of the Sun and in line with Earth, at which time Venus acts like a lens focusing the sun's rays through Venus onto Earth.)
All this aside - my personal view is that something will occur on an isotropic level - to the very fabric of space/time, but unless your prepared for some heavy reading stick with the above as 'signs' of what is to come :-) I'm sure some people will inderstand what I mean by this . . .
I hope that clears things up . . .
Always open to further ideas though . . .
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Fri, August 5, 2005 - 9:30 AMcorrect '2 thousand years' . . not 200 thousand :-)
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Fri, August 5, 2005 - 9:39 AMNice animation from Nasa on Solar Wind phenomena here:
science.nasa.gov/videofile...arwind.mov
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Fri, August 5, 2005 - 11:03 AMgoodgoddess that's sexy.
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Fri, August 5, 2005 - 12:53 PMi say kepler had a good thing going:
www.halexandria.org/dward116.htm
(oops, have i posted this theory?)
who said geometry is a theory? seriously, i don't see how its pausible.
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Fri, August 5, 2005 - 1:09 PMI thought this was common knowledge really . . .
OK . . . so in the beginning there was the VOID . . . so where shall we start . . .the Vector . . . Euclid had it all sorted :-)
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Fri, August 5, 2005 - 1:28 PMso are we projecting common knowledge onto the slate and stone people?
there seems to be some mystery (wink wink) and the forcasting of whats to happen. well, from my seat it seems as though the universe has an element of surprise (meaning, its a surprise!), so in order to maintain that surprise, we'll never guess what it is, no matter how we slice and dice it. why do we want to? i am sure many of you, like myself, have had great visions. the hopi, a respected group of people out here in the midst, have passed along another prophecy, it'll be sure to make the circuit soon, its a simple one, per usual, in regard to 2012, time, and perspective.
i've seen a lot of dialogue about shifting into the 4th dimension, what does that mean? (seems boxy). according to ones own understanding, what is 4d to you? i might also ask, 5th and 6th, thats as far as i go at this point though... in the moment.
there have been a ton of major alignments (and depending where your vision is, they might not be all that apparent or perfected from the ground level) that have and had major shifts in paradigms in just the last couple of years, what have been the results of those galactic alignments? anything specific? anything that can directly relate to natural granduer, like the tsunami?
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Fri, August 5, 2005 - 1:46 PM>>>I thought this was common knowledge really "
you should raise your right hand when telling lies now.
4th dimension = total manifestation or, time (t) + Energy (e) = ART.
i'm only getting distance echos of what 5th,6th and so on are like.
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Sat, August 6, 2005 - 8:50 AMDavid, people see only what they want to see. The void as you mention, is the mother of all.
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Fri, August 5, 2005 - 2:23 PM>When you suggest that Earth/Sun/Galactic alignment happens fairly frequently - how frequent do you suppose? If your talking every 25,920 years then you would be correct. Half that and I'd agree with you too - as just about every ancient culture in the world recorded a rather upsetting incident around one of those times . . . former ot later - take your pick?
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My understanding was that the 3 objects line up something on the order of every score years or so - just not necessarily at the time of the solstice. The Mayans chose this event - the alignment happening at the same time sas the solstice, that is - as the 0 point of their calendar because it occurs so infrequently, but is measurable.
I do admit that I may be incorrect in this, and will have to do some digging in my copious free time. :-)
>You also mention that there certainly wont be any gravitational or electronmagnetic effects? On what basis do you make this presumption?
On the basis that the sun for starters and the galactic center more noticeably are so damn far away. Gravity and electromagnetism both operate on an inverse square law; double the distance, you get the square root as much influence. In other words, if the foce exerted over distance x is 16whatevers, then the distance over distance 2x is 8whatevers, and over distance 4x is 2whatevers.
The galactic center is a long, long, long way away. Tens of thousands of light-years. Gravitational effects and electromagnetic effects from such distances, even with very massive or highly charged objects, are mathematically negligible.
Lining the sun up with the galactic center would be the electromagnetic equivalent of lining up a flashlight 100 miles away with a searchlight 10,000 miles away. Not very bright in other words.
>1. Einstein's Ralatively and Newtonian physics are for the most part wrong (they describe observable phenomena - but fail to identify 'why' things act they way they do.)
I wouldn't say they're wrong, per say; they are a good model for most uses, beyond the exceptional, such as very high velocities. I would agree that they are far from complete, particularly that neither even come close to describing why there's gravity in the first place - sure, massive objects curve space, but WHY?
>All this aside - my personal view is that something will occur on an isotropic level -
Sorry, not familiar with the term. Again, I must admit to my own ignorance here.
I'll definitely check out the links when I can - this kind of stuff facinates me.
Thanks,
Otter
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Sat, August 6, 2005 - 5:06 PMtHAT BIG WAVE OF LIGHT WILL COME FROM THE CENTER OF OUR gALAXY (hUNAB KU), TROUGHT THE ALIGNMENT OF DECEMBER 21 2012
3 CDYFERENT CYCLES OF DIFERENT MAGNITUDES ARE ENDING THIS DATE
a BIG VARIETY OF eNTITYS WILL BE PRESENT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHINH WILL BE ALRIGHT
BUT ITS TRUE... THE NEXT BIG CYCLE WILL BE .... WHAT WE DREAM IN 4TH , TILL THERE.... WE NEED TO CORRECT MANY MISTAKES WE DUN THE LAST 2000 YEARS...
So catastrophism can come if us has a Planetary Beeings are not able in returning to a world where our Panet and Mother is safe
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Sun, August 7, 2005 - 10:34 AMThe word "apocalypse" comes from the Greek term "apokalupsis", meaning:
"to uncover, unveil, or disclose."
I for one am very excited for this, whatever happens!!!
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Wed, August 24, 2005 - 1:32 PMOnce I understood the galactical alignment of our solar system with the galactical plane I started to question about the Gravitational flux, space density and Gravitational waves. Maybe there lies the waves we are looking for. Since gravity can distort time and space. There are Galactical tides. Of course this is my hypothesis, but i know there has been an increase of research in gravitational waves in the recent years. Gravity is the first thing that came up to mind since the galactical plane, I suppose, has the largest concentration of mass. This reasoning might be filled with fallacies, but maybe with a stronger science background could dig further.
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Sun, August 7, 2005 - 11:12 AMI think there are as many realities in 2012 as there are now, because we are creating with thought/emotion now, its just that most people arent clear and light and focused enough to see it now. most of us are still buying into conscensous reality which is very dense. we dont know how much we actually are in this, even if we think we do...for example...where are you living, what are you doing with your time etc. Do you beleive you can live anywhere NOW and DO anything, or are you believing that you need to earn this or that degree and do this or that job to earn money?
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Mon, August 8, 2005 - 5:21 AMClarity is truth revealed. The unveiling process, in kabbalistic terms the removing of klippot, is the ever unfolding story of life as we experience it. Chochma and Binah, wisdom and understanding, are the components that support "knowing" (Keter="the crown"). This actual "knowing" of the highest level is termed "illumination". To be in the light ("enlightened") one must be beyond all shadows ("darkness").
Life is a journey of awareness. This "awareness" is relative to each moment. How the "collective consciousness" can be simultaneously veiled and unveiled is quite paradoxical. The grand unfolding is like a Shakespearean play. All the parts have been written and somehow none of the lines are truly forgotten for life is not a dress rehearsal. Everything counts! There are no mistakes, no accidents, no mishaps. An absolute order is evident and most clear to those who access the divine realms and the "other side" aka fourth dimension, intuition, E.S.P. etc. -
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Mon, August 8, 2005 - 10:52 AMbeatifully said Aleksonder!
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Mon, August 8, 2005 - 10:55 AMAleksonder,
Shalom!
Thank you for clearity!
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Mon, August 8, 2005 - 11:10 AMAccessing Dimensions is awakening to the Greater Self that is.
To do this is to awaken the Heart.
The Great Heart.
This is the 4th Dimension, access to the 4th comes from nurturing and supporting your SACRED HEART, activating your 4th Chakra, allows the Dormant DNA within the Physical Heart to awaken, which is the same 2 strands that cause the Caterpillar to Transform into the Butterfly.
Once we are fully awakened into the 4th Dimension/4th Chakra/4th DNA strand, we will be prepared for the bridging of Worlds between 2012 - 2022.
Those who do not say YES to this oppotunity, will discarnate and reincarnate onto another Ascension process 3D world, while those who have said YES and fully releaased the Seals placed onto our 4th DNA strand, we will awaken into the world of Tara, which is Earth in a higher Harmonic Universe. The next Harmonic up from there is Gaia.
So simply said... LOVE YOURSELF, LOVE YOUR PROCESS, TRUST IN YOUR YES, CLEAR YOUR PERSONAL JUDGEMENT, REMEMBER SOURCE WITHIN, AND GET TO KNOW YOUR HEART!
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Mon, August 8, 2005 - 3:34 PMCorn flower, great post, but explain one thing to me... what does "we will awaken in the world of Tara" mean?
Tara is a HIGHLY meaningful word to me, and I am interested in what you are reffering to. It will connect the dots of an INCREDIBLE synchronicity I just experienced.
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Tue, August 9, 2005 - 8:15 AMNamaste
Wise words . . .
David
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Wed, August 10, 2005 - 8:56 AMCornflower,
Do you not know the 'the devil is in the details', I used think 'Vanity all is vanity' lately its 'bullshit all is bullshit'. But then to predict the future other than to observe trends and plan ahead requires one to be a prophet and to have formed a closer relationship with the force.
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Wed, August 10, 2005 - 12:09 PMDepends on if you do anything.
if people are waiting for something to happen, that is all they will do, wait. along the lines of "if you do not ask, the answer is no anyway."
my thoughts are that 2012 is a pivotal point. we will not need a calendar after that. either we will have hit the point of no return and then it is a countdown or the calendar will no longer matter.
of course it could all be that they just never 'printed' the next cycle and were waiting until it was closer.
capitalism has done too much damage to the indigenous peoples of the world. i feel that the julian and gregorian calendar are an attempt to seperate people from the natural cycles of the earth/moon/sun. once seperated, nature does not matter, it becomes something to conquer.
if people want something to happen, we must work towards it. air resistance alone is enough to slow something down if it lacks it's own drive.
i feel it is time to stop being a passenger on this earth and start guiding.
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Wed, August 10, 2005 - 1:42 PMThe likelyhood of radioactive leak from one of many downed nuclear submarines in our oceans poses the most risk as far as I see it. Fish Die, Birds Die, the ecosystem faulters. The calander may be an end of alignment or portal time. Plenty of G@d d&m#d nukes to go off; 50,000 or so mayby more all larger than Heroshima. Armageddon with fire from the sky. Who knows. I doubt anything visually significant will happen at this point. Something.... Maybe. -
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Wed, August 10, 2005 - 6:54 PMWow! (sorry I have been out of town)
That was both really interesting David and Cornflower! I don't know what isotropic is neither though.
I have heard there are parallel universes right now, and I can see how I may be in a different reality than most b/c I don't seem to ever hear of the "disasters" until after the warning is off or it already happened, and nothing seemed to affect me anyway.
But I have heard some people may be transported to another 3D if not ready to ascend. Will they know they woke up somewhere else? And fun would that be to experience ascension to another dimension. I find it hard to believe, but it sounds fun, so i want to! But that I why I started this post. There seems to be so many possibilities, with even the possibility that we don't notice anything different. I want to experience SOMETHING though and with all the previous evidence of the past precession as has been previously posted, it suggests that something big could happen. -
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Wed, August 10, 2005 - 6:57 PMI don't want to not like bugs, but I can't seem to help it; they freak me out! I would like to roll on the ground and lie there and nap, but I fear bugs will crawl on me and tickle me and bite me and look ugly... So I figure the bugs can have their own world where I won't squash them, whether accidentally or not (how many bugs do I kill from walking around anyway?) and then I can have my own world in this new dimension being carefree of any little critters that don't have fur :) -
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Wed, August 10, 2005 - 7:02 PMAnd yes, Anistara, it does seem like we are not meant to really know, that it will be a surprise, but I always want to know. 7 years is a long time.
And Cornflower, what do you mean about bridging the worlds between 2012-2022?
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Wed, August 10, 2005 - 7:23 PMJesus Criminy I don't know which is worse: the cootie bugs crawling over my tootsies or the nucular summarines springin' leaks!... Oh right, just send those creepie crawlies and radioactive isotopes some luv vibes and it'll all work out fine...
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Thu, August 11, 2005 - 2:18 AM"Our earth will become a star and we shall take our place amongst the star nations. The promised 7th.Golden Age will be our manifest reality. As we become capable of vibrating at a faster frequency and can inhabit and sustain our lightbodies, truth, goodness and divinity will reign supreme. It is our destiny to Ascend."
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Thu, August 11, 2005 - 8:21 AMsooo.....where do you guys get your information from and how do you know it's the truth? Who and what is the source and where did they get this information from?
That's what I mean by New Age Dogma. Believing without questioning..
I think it is rather impossible to know what is going to happen. As I said before, it'll be rather a rude awakening for most, not because it is negative or bad but becasue it's so diferent from what you read or think will happen. I agree with Anistara here....it'll be a surprise.
interesting how easily we throw around Absolutes. "The promised 7th Golden Age will be our manifest reality" is the newest version I've heard of. What was the 6th Age and what about the 8th age? And who the hell promised it in the first place?...lol!
I'm sure there is some truth to some of these "scenarios", wrapped around a package of make-believe and just flat out lies.......but we'd never admit do that, would we?
I hope I don't spoil anyone's fun here by questioning these Ascending Absolutes from the New Age Cult Library. Some of it just sounds like a new Bible.
Peace to ya all!
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Thu, August 11, 2005 - 11:35 AMI feel inclined to recommend a book by Doris Lessing entitled "Shikasta" - Although it is ostensibly a science fiction novel written in the 1970s, the author paints a striking image of the shape of things to come, and the underlying magic of our ordinary reality, and how that will be revealed, even in the darkest of globally catastrophic scenarios - I have read this book, and though my dim forecast of events to come has not been replaced by a rosy benevolent promised golden age, my perspective has begun to shift from one of fear and dread to one of trust and surrender - Lessing is a prophetic, insightful, and moving writer, with the courage to look at the dark side of things and the (for many people) 'unthinkable' consequences of human history, without succumbing to despair or resorting to judgment...
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Thu, August 11, 2005 - 12:44 PMdoris lessing is awesome read--
brian deflores is an asshole. for real. (though a good artist) lol!
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Thu, August 11, 2005 - 12:46 PMThe idea that post 2012 is up to the individual (or group consensus) is one that should be considered closely.
It is fact that we are capable of attaining Out of Body Experiences, and from my research there are reports of 7 seven levels . . . the Astal Plane (3rd Plane) is the most commonly visited - and consists of an environment where one may simply manifest any reality, desire, or thought and it becomes so. I have had glipses of this myself and in the process of actively exploring . . .
The Planes above this are attainable - but are significantly harder to achieve . . . the 6th Plane, or Bhuddic Plane presumably conincides with the opening of the 3rd Eye and may take some time to get to ;-)
With this in mind - it is so hard to beleive that we may all be offered the chance to raise our 'vibrations' permanantly so that we can exist Astraly? No longer needing the Physical Body to return to?
Thoughts anyone?
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Thu, August 11, 2005 - 3:35 PMALOHA…
I am going to share my heart and be present with some questions and feelings put out by others on this thread.
Here goes:
Jason - what does "we will awaken in the world of Tara" mean?
Tara is the next Harmonic up from this one.
We are in Harmonic Universe 1 and will be ascending to Tara in Harmonic Universe 2.
Now as Bernhard said, “interesting how easily we throw around Absolutes”
I agree. So let me explain. I got this information from the Emerald Covenant Freedom Teachings, which are a quite complex and clean download of info. It has very little personal process caught up into it. YET… I see this info as a way to define something that is much more simple. I FEEL we are not LEAVING this PLANET.
Tara is Earth, it is our awakening to the greater levels of experience through our opening our many channels that have until recently been only known by few.
These channels are a part of BEING HUMAN, yet we have not been aware of this.
I see things that I used to not see when I was “a child” because I had not been made aware of it. So I see Tara as the next evolutionary stage of Earth, yet it is where we came from. For we have descended from the Divine, in the original fall which was perfect, so we may REMEMBER our divinity and Ascend to that which we truly are.
JW - But then to predict the future other than to observe trends and plan ahead requires one to be a prophet and to have formed a closer relationship with the force.
I see that we all are Prophets, we all are Bio-Antennaes of True Paradigm Potential.
It is in nurturing that potential and exercising it do we then begin to Demystify the stories of Prophets / Seers / Wizards / Witches / Gods and Goddesses. For we are “that”.
Nicole - But I have heard some people may be transported to another 3D if not ready to ascend. Will they know they woke up somewhere else? And fun would that be to experience ascension to another dimension. I find it hard to believe, but it sounds fun, so i want to!
Yes, I have heard the same thing. It FEELS truth to me. It feels that this Planet is ready to move to the next rung in the evolutionary ladder. Some say it is a SHADOW Earth, but I feel that isn’t meaning the bad place because of the connotations around shadow which are created from FEAR, but the shadow of ignorance, where ignorance isn’t bad either it just is the consensus of consciousness hasn’t fully awakened yet. Some say this incarnational contract of birth/death and forgetting at death and being born to remember and then make the choice of YES or NO, and when saying NO, we just die again and forget, being born again to be given another opportunity to fulfill our destiny which is to ascend. We are INFINITE and are ONE. As we say YES to this, we are given the opportunities to remember quicker at birth to the point of us saying, THE BIG YES, the GRAND OKAY… we are done with what the Tibetans call the “Six Levels of Rebirth”.
WE ARE READY TO EMBRACE THE TRUTH OF OUR ONENESS.
With this YES comes all the myriad reflections/challenges/opportunities/doorways for us to clear our stuff that no longer serves us, so we may fulfill the next step.
Where a lot of us have gotten stuck is in this YES, forgetting we had said Yes, or not understanding the process of Yes, which is that once we say YES to something, we are given an opportunity or a TEST/ I like calling it a GIFT so that we can clear it and say, “This is what I NO LONGER CHOOSE in my LIFE” fulfilling it by not performing the old thought form patterns of reaction, fear, jealousy, blah blah blah… you get the picture right?! It seems we have said YES and then are given this GIFT and don’t see it as such and feel it is just a sign from GOD saying we can’t make it, we are worthless, all the old thought forms of disempowerment baggage that are inherited infrastructures from the Planetary Mind that no longer serve our “Conscious” Planetary Mind.
To ascend is like rising up.
We daily are being asked to RISE to EXPERIENCE LIFE.
What we are doing is OPENING ourselves to LOVE, without ANY hesitation.
Without ANY FEAR.
FEAR...
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So Ascension is very tangible and real.
Bernhard – “sooo.....where do you guys get your information from and how do you know it's the truth?”
I get my information from everything, everywhere, I sift it through my Sacred Heart, anything that doesn’t resonate, I toss out, if it comes back I give it more scrutiny and sifting and filtering to find the gem of Gold inside it that is the reason it returned.
This is how I find the truths from my reflected center.
Bernhard - “Who and what is the source and where did they get this information from?”
From the same place we all get it from, they just seem to attach some fancy romantic words around it. It is not the story but the Moral, right?
Bernhard - ”That's what I mean by New Age Dogma. Believing without questioning..”
I agree, this is something that does not serve us at this Time, to believe without questioning, unless, your heart guides you to it, in that case it doesn’t mean its truth but it does mean you have something to learn from it or some healing to go through around it or it is TRUTH. So it is all PERFECT either way.
Bernhard – “I hope I don't spoil anyone's fun here by questioning these Ascending Absolutes from the New Age Cult Library. Some of it just sounds like a new Bible.”
You are not spoiling my fun Bernhard, I give thanks for your reflections.
However I would like to suggest to you and us all, including myself to be aware of casting such spells as “New Age Cult Library”. For that not only generalizes, but could limit ones ability to find for themselves the Truth that draws them to their destiny.
For it is ALL ONE, the New Age
I just want to conclude my sharing with an excerpt from Bernhards blog.
Much love to you bro. Thank you for your presence and Truth.
“We all have roles in this leap of consciousness that lies just over the horizon. Letting go of the fears that are being reinforced and replayed on a loop through our society to maintain control is a big step in a fresh new direction. We are becoming more aware that what we are projecting within our daily lives determines what experience we will experience.
Fears are like flies buzzing through our heart and soul. If we fixate on those flies of fear they turn into dragons, blocking our path to the ocean of infinite bliss, knowledge and love that lies within every human on this planet.”
ALOHA
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Re: What's REALLY going to happen...
Thu, August 11, 2005 - 10:52 PMAloha Uhane,
Same story different words:
The human race (in its entirety) shall progress here on planet Earth from 3D to 4D awareness as a collective. By 21-12-12, the hundredth monkey shall have been activated, mass consciousness shall have been attained, and the truth shall literally have set everyone free.
The veils of Piscean secrecy are being lifted. Moment by moment, more and more is being revealed, for all to see a grander reality and a new age of Aquarian consciousness, "knowing", is continually being ushered in.
This foresaid date is the porthole to the ultimate Utopia as prophesized and envisioned by ancient seers. The grand question is: Will enough human beings TRULY be ready to participate by then?
Aloha Uhane,
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Re: What's REALLY going to happen...
Sun, August 21, 2005 - 5:29 PMMy insight is exactly the same but under the teaching I was given it is a 5th dimentional awarness that we will be accending into the fourth being that which is complying with what science terms the fourh dimention as being that of space/time one word. And the Fith being that which is of coarse transendent of both space and time. And my general belief is that we accend on an individual level and that each one of us who does has done so by embracing the collective thus bringing the "rest" of the world with him or her truly joining and becoming part of the great co-creative process that is taking place.
Light and Love Terrance
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Re: What's REALLY going to happen...
Fri, August 12, 2005 - 12:50 AMI think you have a good point in your message Cornflower, whatever might happen or is happening. By living through the heart is the best we can do for ourselves and others in any times.
/Yuzo
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Re: What's REALLY going to happen...
Mon, August 15, 2005 - 12:25 AMgreat post Cornflower.
Thanks for listening and responding.
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What IS being to happen...
Tue, August 30, 2005 - 1:42 AMHi !
Everyone will tunnel through the vortex according to their chosen spin.
The vortex is cocreated by the essential nature of the sum of our spin.
These vortexes are there each heartbeat, every fraction of a second, as if hidden in plain sight, within each ordinary moment, an infinitesimal Turyia of no-time.
Earth transforming into Tara. ( awakening mode )
Piscean dualism transforming into Aquarian metalogical reasoning. ( astrological cyclical time mode )
This reasoning and glocal dialogue as seen in many tribes in tribe.net is as if a glimpse of this. ( actual community mode )
Shikasta transforming (yet again) into Rohanda. ( multilinear, artistic narrative mode )
3rd into 4th. ( symbolical dimensional mode )
Solar plexus and Throat creative tension resolving into firstly an activated heart, to be followed by Thymus ( high heart ) activation. ( chakric becomingness vibrational mode )
There is actually no set date, it only appears that way, from seeing it as if inside the Gregorian time capsule, the chrysalis.
This time capsule distorts and creates biased understanding, by assuming linearity, polarity and elevating established scientific reasoning as primary.
An added difficulty is that normal languaging is geared towards analyzing into parts.
2012 is all about the parts re-aligning. There will be an event horizon, where ordinary languaging no longer serves.
Tea at my place afterwards.
If you insist, you can have tea now:
100th.tribe.net/
Although each post here is an excellent facet of the larger crystal that is us,
I'd have to say I quite like this one:
"We are becoming more aware that what we are projecting within our daily lives determines what experience we will experience."
I am aware that my spin ( insert rendering mode here ) is synonymous with my experienced spin.
What would happen if everyone aligned with their own heart chakra ? Or maybe even only imagined themselves as if aligning with their heart chakra, whether they believed in anything like chakras or not ?
love always,
John
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Re: What's REALLY going to happen...
Thu, August 11, 2005 - 11:25 PMFrom the reading I've done we currently are in the galactic underworld and have been since 1999. This marks a time of "healing" a time for us, the human race to heal ourselves and break free from this dualist reality we've been living in. This can be seen on many levels. Yoga, Raw Foods, people moving to cities that promote exercise and better well being. This is the time for us all to get our act together. I've also read where as we come closer to the end of this particular underworld it will become easier and easier to obtain enlightenment with the divine. It's during this time that we all will have the opportunity to jump on the boat or continue on. The world tree and galactic winds are moving eastward, hence the time of western domination is coming to an end. Could this mean a apocolyptic type situation? Of course as our leaders in power all over the world aren't going to give up that power easily. What is going to save the human race and make it easier for all of us to transcend is LOVE. The more love we put forth the easier it will be for us all. But at the same time I think it's important to stay grounded as well but don't be afraid to arm and protect yourself when necessary. There are also 2 dates in mine, Dec 2012 and Oct 2011. (exact dates I can't remember right now) There is also a debate on the long count and such. But one thing is clear we are all in a vortex going down the same toilet bowl so to speak. Just look around you, the transformation is happening right now, 2012 will be the end of this cycle but we right now, today are in the midst of many things going on. All you have to do is open your eyes and watch it happen. Great time to be alive. -
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Re: What's REALLY going to happen...
Fri, August 12, 2005 - 8:49 PMYes, I do feel it is a great time to be alive.
I always enjoy your words Cornflower- so thank you!
Alexsonder- I have heard the phrase "100th monkey" but know nothing about it. What do you mean when the 100th monkey will be activated?
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Re: What's REALLY going to happen...
Fri, August 12, 2005 - 11:35 PMEveryone will know how to eat bananas without ever being taught ;-)
Namaste,
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Re: What's REALLY going to happen...
Fri, August 12, 2005 - 11:44 PMorange you happy to hear that? ;-)
hugaste,
david
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Re: What's REALLY going to happen...
Sat, August 13, 2005 - 6:38 AMObtaining critical mass preceeds dynamic shifting. The hundredth monkey symbolizes the turning point. When it's attained unification is achieved. At this point sufficient momentum has been created for changes to have occurred. -
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Sat, August 13, 2005 - 6:46 AMDissension, discord and lack of agreement hinders the unification process. Presently we have a world based upon love, however it's intimidated by fear. Ideally, by the end of 2012, these intimidating fears shall be uprooted and replaced with love.
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Re: What's REALLY going to happen...
Sat, August 13, 2005 - 12:07 PM100th monkey
Maybe this story is true, who knows, but we think there is power in it
There was this island in Asia with monkeys on it, every day some guys would come up on a boat and dump some food on the shore, the monkeys would grab the food with sand on it, run back and eat it.
One day a baby monkey washed the food off in the ocean then took it back and ate it, he got the good food without the bitter sand.
Every day he did this and other monkeys began to follow, the watched this happen, or so the story goes, one day, when the 100th monkey washed the food, think it was a yam, on another island, with no apparent connection, another monkey washed the same food instead of eating it with sand.
The intuitions that come to the planet are touched by many who are open, who are clear to receive them, Like when they cloned Dolly, someone else in the world was on working on that to, its like if you listen to the collective consciousness you could tap into it, but who knows, it might just be that the knowledge reached this point.
The 100th monkey belief is that when we hit critical mass, 100 or more of us meditate or believe, we can alter reality, maybe even quite literally!
On clearing:
Unlimited Possibility with no Expectations, no past or future, no spoon
Everything and Anything can be created with a blank slate, a clearing if you will, we are magic; everything in our lives is a product of the energy we draw towards ourselves. By letting go of the past, forgetting all that you know, you open yourself up to unlimited possibility, you present possibility has nothing to do with anything in your past, and when you create from the space of now, do so with no expectations, this will stop you from moving the future into your past, which will create more past in your present and again stop your creation by putting the past in your future. Just declare anything in words, to a friend, then say it to yourself - three times for two weeks, then set out to doing it, and everything and anything will become true for yourself and your life. That’s how the magic works, not by doing, but by BE-Do-Have it all! The Be part is an affirmation you tell yourself, it must be done in present tense, and with no negative words, this is the power of the subconscious mind, the breathing reactive mind that multi tasks any goal like a computer. We are bio monkey robot capable of so much, use the power that you are and everything will be yours in this life!
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The number required is approximately 80,000
Sun, August 14, 2005 - 12:17 PMParticipate with us in the world peace experiment:
www.openheart.com/peace/peace.html
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Mon, August 15, 2005 - 8:44 PMSo pardon my ignorance but what exactly is critical mass?
Anyway, great story and makes sense...
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Mon, August 15, 2005 - 8:50 PMHey Aleksonder, that's a cool link, thank you. It did say the people are critical mass, but, still, what does that mean exactly? Why are people referred to as critical mass?
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letting go...
Mon, August 15, 2005 - 9:28 PMSounds like you still are holding judgement on yourself Nicole.
A great step to being in the now and letting go of the past,
is not fighting off the feelings and thoughts around things that have happened.
Embracing them, looking at them, but not attaching to them by playing into them or performing them. Witness them... feel your feelings around them, allow your feelings without judging them. All is perfect for it brought you to this NOW. All things are gifts for our awakening and growth.
Breathe in light to areas that are dark, don't be afraid of this area and don;t fight them just shine the light of your awareness into them.
Love yourself up.
Also a great way to release things is to use elements of the Earth and your environment as a sort of roll playing.
Try, stepping into a creek or a river with the intention that the creek will sweep away anything that no longer serves you, step into the creek/river and allow do the steps shared above... allow yourself to feel what comes up, where is it centered in your body, is it everywhere is it in the heart, is it in two different places. take mental notes or write it down after you exit the water. Keep a log, don't rush to the healing it comes to you, you just have to allow it to come. Stay clear on your intentions of being in the Truth of this NOW MOMENT. It takes alot of courage which you DO have.
You are worthy of this MOMENT and you are WORTHY of HEALING and being free of anything but the beauty that is here right now for you and all of us.
I trust this will bring you the peace of presence.
As the One.
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Sun, August 21, 2005 - 9:37 PMi have found... that when the stress comes to taunt me... when i achieve a new higher more eagle view and heart perspective, those old belief systems and old programming and all that rot come in to have a chew on it... when this happens, i have found (especially when it rolls so hard through me that i feel like i am gonna get nauseous and forget the whole spirit deal) that if i simply let them come all goes smooth...
i let them enter my body, roll through my mind, and move on their way... if i decide to fight them, argue with them, or anything of the like, i am creating my own resistance... i engage and they command me and rule me thusly by my giving them power...
now, i let it all roll... it is not all peaches, it still is very uncomfortable to be rearranged from the inside out...
this discussion probably has nothing whatsoever to do with what i just wrote, but i wrote it anyway...
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Critical Mass
Mon, August 15, 2005 - 11:57 PMThere is no such thing as ignorance in a question, unless you're ignoring the answer.
Critical mass is an expression used to describe the point at which a collective of individuals who share the same awareness or intention becomes large enough that it immeditately begins to affect a much larger population group exponentially. The term was coined when in a study of monkeys, researchers found that after more than one-hundred monkeys understood a new technique or lesson, another separate autonomous group of monkeys (with absolutely no way to interact with the study group) suddenly started using the new technique. This became known as the 100th Monkey Principle, but as different species were studied and this same phenomenon was revealed occuring at different levels of collective cohesion or population "mass," the more applicable term became simply "critical mass."
On a less definitive note, there are many ways to deal with our past. Cornflower, an Old Brother of mine from a distant past, as well as a more recent one, has made some beautiful suggestions to aid in your unfolding process. I might add that for myself, using the words "letting go" seemed to refer to something that was impossible for me to do. How do you "let go" of the past? You don't. You're not holding the past, you are Re-Membering it. We can't separate ourselves from our Life-Path, or our Soul-Path for that matter. But we do often have the rare opportunity to remember, when we shake off the dusty webs of time and space between ourselves and our experiences. It is an opportunity, because each experiences teaches us, aids us, and transforms us in very special ways. There are many hard lessons, and dark roads we have walked; but if we turn away, afraid to look back at the road, we may be surprised to find we left something important behind!
After so many nightmares of memories beyond this body, I stopped letting them creep up on me, and started chasing them down. Immediately, I found myself empowered to explore the depths of my past, and found so many hidden lessons woven in the fabric of tragedies.
I find that within ourselves, we have a "critical mass" of consciousness as well. When we direct enough of ourselves towards any outcome, eventually enough energy is dedicated that all things begin to shift in our direction.
May the rivers wash your fears away, and may the trees offer you roots of strength, may the air fill your lungs with courage, and may the fire of transformation heal your wounds. May you accept the past and trust the future, knowing the Now and Embracing Your Self.
Aloha Ke Akua
Blessed Be
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Tue, August 16, 2005 - 6:02 PMThank you guys for your wise words. It is helpful. I Re-Member my parents thoughts of lack and that has crept into my life and I have used it as something to empower me and a tool for me, but look at how quickly I am to forget that! Thanks for re-minding me again!
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Re: What's REALLY going to happen...
Sun, August 21, 2005 - 2:18 PMFor any of you who have ever "Smoked the Toad" ~ you will understand this:
Imagine a Universal "Toad" journey, - where within moments the awakening vibrations ripple & unfold, where our minds all merge on the higher plane of collective understanding, where our sorrow is truly Universal, Tears streaming from our ears in Rivers, where our Joy is Universal - blossoming within each cell of our Beingness. Imagine that "Toad" journey going on & on, until our entire planet/universe is transformed, inwardly & outwardly, where we each then awaken in our highest of dreams, singing & sighing with our families & lovetribes!
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Fri, September 2, 2005 - 3:12 PMJust read this rich thread... I wanted to add a few more thoughts along the lines of responses to Nichole's comments and questions.
At least for most of us, the personal past is still going to come up some-times. I think there can be a gradual shift away from indentifying with these memories. It doesn't mean pushing them away or rejecting them, as has been said well before. It's just a question of affriming within that "I am not that," meaning "I am not experience, more than I am anything else." The basic idea again is that holding on to any limited identity is the source of suffering through time--even if it appears to be a "positive identity."
I also think it's critical, too, to recognize and respect where one is onself in the journey. If I want to be more peaceful, more aware, more evolved than I am now, that's a source of motivation, but it can be crippling if I let the ego grab on and attack my sense of self. I would also add that the process of disengaging one's identity from the ego must be painful, even though it simultaneously opens us up to deeper love and sense of meaning. Ego death sure as hell feels like death because it IS death, at least at that level. And it hurts like hell, because the ego is Hell...
When I look at the visions of the future may unfold, I feel a tension between wanting what I want (collective evolution, transcendence of limitations, a more buoyant loving humanity enmeshed consciously with the living earth) and striving to accept all that happens now. Does anyone else feel this sense of tension? I feel that I must remind myself that while on one level terrible injustices are being done in the phenomenal world, if I judge and condemn what I perceive, I am only adding to the well of negativity and rejection.
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Sat, September 3, 2005 - 2:48 PMI'm growing closer to the "oneness" everyday, allowing me to have a greater understanding of what is and what's not.
Yes, to think about the injustice is to give it more negativity thereby making it stronger.
I have come to realization that no matter what horrible or far fetched circumstance or conspiracy maybe "out there", there ultimately isn't an "out there". The "out there" has been a reflection of the "Oneness" fears since forgetting the separation. fear brought on more of the same and it has gone out of control. And like our normal defense mechanisms, a "oneness" group defense mechanisms jumped in and so many deny this awareness in their daily life, though it keeps coming to haunt us no matter how much we repress this "oneness" fear of separation. It came as 9/11, the gov't, and recently, hurricane Katrina.
I don't feel tension like you say, but I feel there's a lot of work to do to come to a point that the world is like that which we want it to be.
So in that sense, I guess I'll answer my own question: As long as I am manifesting the life I want by focusing on that which I want my life to be, 2012 could be the time when we suceed at "enlightening" all to our powers of creation and to our Oneness, and since there really isn't a past, present of future, 2012 seems like the group consensus of when this change will take place. -
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Sun, September 4, 2005 - 4:42 PMSeems if we all have a dream and vision, that's half the battle.
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Tue, September 13, 2005 - 3:40 PMNicole, your latest post is pure excellence.
::bowing::
Group consensus.
Or, as I call it in the 100th,
collective sentience.
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Re: What's REALLY going to happen...
Tue, September 13, 2005 - 3:32 PMHi there :)
I think you should read the "Mayan Factor" by José Arguelles.
It explains EVERYTHING!
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Re: What's REALLY going to happen...
Tue, September 13, 2005 - 5:53 PMHey Fausto,
Instead of name dropping a title of a book, why not add something to the discussion based on what you have read in it? Um, most of us would be entertained by your input then. ;-)
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Re: What's REALLY going to happen...
Tue, September 13, 2005 - 9:36 PMPersonally I cannot conceive of any single path of understanding or flash of illumination could possibly explain what will happen to us all in our near future.
I am not entirely opposed to this existing, it just seems so incredibly improbable that I am kept me from subscribing too deeply to anyones dogma or philosophy, especially if that one is expressing that it is Total and denies other potential paths.
Now, for those contemplative and very open people, which includes almost everyone who has posted, there are many wonderous ideas that allow for us each to color in our own picture of what is going on and still support and recriprocate the alignments of each other. Oh yeah!
We observe the stars, we consider history as we conceive it, countless realizations are born within our breasts of incredible spiritual and scientific synchronicity. Many of us have been filled with the sense that something will happen around the time of 2012 since we were children, sometimes these thoughts have triggered many more awakenings....
There seem to be a few things that most everyone here agrees on. The story is told in many forms. The words, although stimulating and often poetic, at a certain point disenterest me. It's what i'm feeling in my heart, and what i'm feeling from you that calls me. This, for me, is not something that can be summed up in a sentance, or a paragraph, or a six-hundered gig hard drive. This is the Love that we are sharing, the incredible oneness that seems so undeniable.
So many of you here have shared incredible thoughts and feelings. Thank you so much. You are changing our realities.
So Much Love,
Djero
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