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"Robert Thomas, an associate of 'balloon boy' dad Richard Heene, has told of how Heene is a follower of David Icke, and he wanted his own reality TV show so that he can fund a bunker for when the sun explodes in 2012. According to Thomas’s attorney:
"'Heene believes the world is going to end in 2012,' she said. 'Because of that, he wanted to make money quickly, become rich enough to build a bunker or something underground, where he can be safe from the sun exploding.'
"Last year Heene participated in a series of entertaining YouTube videos known as '2012 - The Best Evidence - by The Psyience Detectives'.
"Gawker.com published an exclusive interview with Thomas, and here’s the part dealing with 2012:
"But he was motivated by theories I thought were far-fetched. Like Reptilians — the idea there are alien beings that walk among us and are shape shifters, able to resemble human beings and running the upper echelon of our government. Somehow a secret government has covered all this up since the U.S. was established, and the only way to get the truth out there was to use the mainstream media to raise Richard to a status of celebrity, so he could communicate with the masses.
"As the weeks progressed, his theories got more and more extreme and paranoid. A lot of it surrounded 2012, and the possibility of there being an apocalyptic moment. Richard likes to talk a lot about the possibility of the Sun erupting in a large-scale solar flare that wipes out the Earth. It got to the point where he was really pressing me, saying we’re running out of time, we’re running out of time, the end of the world is coming. And we have to take necessary precautions to make sure that we’re not among the majority that’s going to be killed."
2012news.com/
From Gawker.com:
Exclusive: I Helped Richard Heene Plan a Balloon Hoax
gawker.com/5383858/excl...-balloon-hoax
2012 - The Best Evidence - by The Psyience Detectives
www.youtube.com/watch
2012 - The Best Evidence - by The Psyience Detectives #2
www.youtube.com/watch
2012 - The Best Evidence - by The Psyience Detectives #3
www.youtube.com/watch
2012 - The Best Evidence - by The Psyience Detectives #4
www.youtube.com/watch
2012 - The Best Evidence - by The Psyience Detectives #5
www.youtube.com/watch
2012 - The Best Evidence - by The Psyience Detectives #6
www.youtube.com/watch
Colorado balloon incident
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colo...n_incident
"'Heene believes the world is going to end in 2012,' she said. 'Because of that, he wanted to make money quickly, become rich enough to build a bunker or something underground, where he can be safe from the sun exploding.'
"Last year Heene participated in a series of entertaining YouTube videos known as '2012 - The Best Evidence - by The Psyience Detectives'.
"Gawker.com published an exclusive interview with Thomas, and here’s the part dealing with 2012:
"But he was motivated by theories I thought were far-fetched. Like Reptilians — the idea there are alien beings that walk among us and are shape shifters, able to resemble human beings and running the upper echelon of our government. Somehow a secret government has covered all this up since the U.S. was established, and the only way to get the truth out there was to use the mainstream media to raise Richard to a status of celebrity, so he could communicate with the masses.
"As the weeks progressed, his theories got more and more extreme and paranoid. A lot of it surrounded 2012, and the possibility of there being an apocalyptic moment. Richard likes to talk a lot about the possibility of the Sun erupting in a large-scale solar flare that wipes out the Earth. It got to the point where he was really pressing me, saying we’re running out of time, we’re running out of time, the end of the world is coming. And we have to take necessary precautions to make sure that we’re not among the majority that’s going to be killed."
2012news.com/
From Gawker.com:
Exclusive: I Helped Richard Heene Plan a Balloon Hoax
gawker.com/5383858/excl...-balloon-hoax
2012 - The Best Evidence - by The Psyience Detectives
www.youtube.com/watch
2012 - The Best Evidence - by The Psyience Detectives #2
www.youtube.com/watch
2012 - The Best Evidence - by The Psyience Detectives #3
www.youtube.com/watch
2012 - The Best Evidence - by The Psyience Detectives #4
www.youtube.com/watch
2012 - The Best Evidence - by The Psyience Detectives #5
www.youtube.com/watch
2012 - The Best Evidence - by The Psyience Detectives #6
www.youtube.com/watch
Colorado balloon incident
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colo...n_incident
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Tue, October 20, 2009 - 9:14 PM<<"'Heene believes the world is going to end in 2012,' she said. 'Because of that, he wanted to make money quickly, become rich enough to build a bunker or something underground, where he can be safe from the sun exploding.'">>
sounds like teletubie stuff ....
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Tue, October 20, 2009 - 9:38 PMgreat-- more credible evidence for those of us who see a "change on the horizon"---
not all are wacko-nut-job conpsiracy theorists who would put their families in jeopardy based on mental delusions!
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Tue, October 20, 2009 - 9:50 PM.... I Don't have any recall of David Icke ever saying "the sun is gonna Explode in 2012"................ (maybe joking about nutjobs and their delusions) .... and I've watched the full set of his recent videos, which are mostly about the shadow power structures, and his information correlates well with a broad diversity of other sources. -
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Tue, October 20, 2009 - 11:13 PMpp: "...I Don't have any recall of David Icke ever saying "the sun is gonna Explode in 2012"..."
>>> As far as I know he never said anything about an exploding sun, but he definitely mentions 2012 as an important closing year in his recent books, which is how I was made aware of the 2012 thing and why I joined this tribe. This was years ago, and nowadays I believe that 2012 essentially doesn't mean squat, and has been spun out of control to squeeze money and fame out of it. Delusional behaviour and ego pampering has skyrocketed along with it, and it has become a self fulfilling prophecy in the sense that even when nothing happens, a lot will happen.
People are so sick of the daily grind that they get desperate for miracles, so they become easy prey or delusional predators, or both. 2012 will hopefully be a wake-up call, but I'm not even holding my breath for that one, since the masses simply believe whatever they want to believe, and as long as they're distracted in la-la land, the corporate profiteers won't mind adding gasoline to the flames. -
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Tue, October 20, 2009 - 11:21 PMBallonboy "sick and tired" of the whole thing: www.youtube.com/watch
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Tue, October 20, 2009 - 11:31 PM<<even when nothing happens, a lot will happen>>
<< the masses simply believe whatever they want to believe, and as long as they're distracted in la-la land, the corporate profiteers won't mind adding gasoline to the flames>>
you got it ! ... so what you gonna do ?
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Tue, October 20, 2009 - 11:50 PMa few important details are getting overlooked in the flurries of misinformation. 2012 is Definitely not all squattage, and If it Were, everyone here would be Wasting their Time just hanging around this tribe.
Some of us have connected the Essential dots up, in the proverbial maze, but you don't get to a useful understanding by Fronting a Nega-Conclusionary -Ness, I'll Guaranfunkin-T............ never could, never would, .... until (when) it's assholes & elbows time, ...and if you don't have the essential pieces of the puzzle by then...... it's good luck ace, happy trails to you, let karma do the sortin' Morton
PreClusions of Naught reciprescribes headflipping when up comes down, as it does in any old psychedelic universe spinning faster than the eggheads can "go figure",........... even as the masses give nod in obeisance to physicists gone to gone gone with headscratching behind the chalkboard frauds of Greek.... all the While, unwashed genius artfully dodges the loathsome glances of enforcers of broken theories.......
Talkin' 'bout Heynow, heynow, heynow heyNOW, Iko-iko ........
bump-bump-she-bump-bump rhythms of the star machine carousal clock, can you read the time with the rhyme of the intuitive mind?
Star Music comin' down, shake the walls of the Halls, with the heartspirit dance (sky machine alive O'life)
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Wed, October 21, 2009 - 12:03 AMbig so Big, so BIG, so FAST!
.............yet so quiet and still
om
moves into OM
and AUOM
hum you to your DNA
HuMans are Spectral Beings capable of Divine Resonance
don't be Stuck in the Duck Muck..................... heart & Cosmos cojoin in the big bad 2012 (unless the free-will of fear fraughts failings of Thrive ... a head-to-muck dive) Do the Heart Thang and get Alive
We got ComPanie (scramble up your amazements into a bright awakening out of the darkminds held-advertised-expected-enforced in the public schemes)
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Wed, October 21, 2009 - 11:24 AMpp: "...a few important details are getting overlooked in the flurries of misinformation..."
>>> Those being?
pp: "...but you don't get to a useful understanding by Fronting a Nega-Conclusionary -Ness...."
>>> Oh, ok...
pp: "...and if you don't have the essential pieces of the puzzle by then...... it's good luck ace, happy trails to you, let karma do the sortin'..."
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Wed, October 21, 2009 - 5:05 PM"rapture" is a loaded Christian wordslather, and Christianity Belongs to "the Establishment", which gives us an alternative view, known as rationalist atheism.... which is Only One step from Religion itself.... In That it Utilizes the Same Close-mindedness (conservation-of-limited-mind) and Obeisance as Standard operating Procedure. True, the Same mentalities are Present in Alternative Eclectic (New Age to some, but a limited term) Personalities, memes...... YET not "structurally" so, ...........more a Carryover from a Rational culture established to bring balance to a instinctual sort of 'fallen'" mentality rife with superstition. So we have instinct at the Base, rationalism at the 3rd chakra (bellybrain-hooked to left brain domination) .... and Creative intuition at the Heart and higher levels (when integral with the intuitive-creative, right brain dominance).
Those being? ....sorry you missed out, where were you? You'll have to go back and review for the test. Either you "get it" (dicey phrasing, but I like to respond "in kind") or you are trying Not to Get it so diligently that you "succeed" at that, ............ and the left brain Dominates again.... the crowd goes.... ewww ...Tame and ...... reDuck-shunist.
I'm Very familiar with how the Rational EgO Functions and poses its TriUmpAlist pseudo-not-religious True-Believer Male-headed swaggering.......... if that is a helpful observation that informs my 'response' criteria........oooooooo let's stream logic sequentially, building to the masculine.
But why go there? Either you are interested, or looking for the Above conflictive perennial left-node brain banterings.
Meanwhile, in Meeting your Mind.... I've opened-up my left-node and lost touch with that essence I was Previously "laying out"..........you'll have to work for it now to precipitate the essence, because spirit shies away from single-file processes. ..............got Bandwidth?
But..... past experience says: I may be misreading you. Am I? If so........step up and carry forth the intended open-mindedness that seemed absent in the Unengaged-ishness.
bottom line, it's all about consciousness of a higher sort than Just the Rational Mind, with its Built-In (Inherent) Limitations.
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Wed, October 21, 2009 - 6:01 PMpp: "...I may be misreading you. Am I?..."
>>> I'm not sure. I've been very open minded when it comes to 2012 stuff, but the closer we get, the less substance I see/experience/feel to get excited about. Some say it will be a sudden surge, others say it's already happening, and yet others say it's already happened... and yet I look around me and see nothing even remotely close to a positive shift in either consciousness or awareness, and there's absolutely no reason whatsoever to think there will be a sudden surge of anything other than dissappointment. If you have data to supports otherwise, I'm all ears, but if you expect me to let go of 50% of my being (rationale/intellect/left brain) in favor of a full experience in my other 50% (emotion/spirituality/right brain) then I'm afraid I'll indeed pass the bus and keep walking. -
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Wed, October 21, 2009 - 7:20 PM"I'm all ears, but if you expect me to let go of 50% of my being (rationale/intellect/left brain) in favor of a full experience in my other 50% (emotion/spirituality/right brain)"
What IF, the shift you speak of IS the balance (evoloving connection) between your right and left brain? How would you measure this type of rewiring?
Maybe this Reality TV stunt signals a bottoming-out of the separation between the hemispheres. Judgment Day as the last episode of Dancing with the Imbeciles.
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Wed, October 21, 2009 - 7:24 PM"if you have data"
Yeah I got data and dada like you wouldn't believe, ... so why Bother? Seriously...
.by the way.... there are emotions of a rationally-based mindedness, which reside in the 3rd chakra, and eMotions of extremely High Potential/Potencies.... so if you want to get Technical-Specific, sure, I'm qualified ....but that Generally Does seem to be unlikely, reading the Vibe being presented.
If you don't Flow the heart spectrum, you will be bored, until you see extraordinary events In Yer Face...... and Then if you don't Get in Touch you'll just go Loopy or confused. The TIME To Prepare psycho-spiritually is Now. The Entire Solar System is Ramping up DRAMATICally in energies, as Seen by the astrophysicists (data available) ...... did you Miss this Fact? The Other Rationalists here Chronically Ignore such Stark Facts, as if they didn't exist. Is that to be what you Identify with?
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Thu, October 22, 2009 - 7:09 AM"so if you want to get Technical-Specific, sure, I'm qualified ...."
... a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
"The Entire Solar System is Ramping up DRAMATICally in energies, as Seen by the astrophysicists (data available) ......The Other Rationalists here Chronically Ignore such Stark Facts, as if they didn't exist."
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Thu, October 22, 2009 - 10:40 AMI don't know , I thought you had it..... and why would you listen to me anyway?, as you choose to see me as a mere "idiot" & "nutjob".
One Could watch a recent David Icke video (as linked recently here), or listen to a David Wilcock interview (also linked recently) .... (or even use Google).........but these people are just idiots, right ?(they can hardly string coherent concepts together, eh, Mr. Hoopes?) We all belong as recipients of CHRONIC Ad Hominem attack status, because THAT is what rationalists DO, even as they Scorn others if they Dare return the favor, if they DARE Question RATional Authority, ........As Seen In Power on TV.
If you want to address me directly, rather than Contemptuously, That is also possible. You know Perfectly well that the Science Establishment has Ample Data on the Significantly INCREASING energetic signatures of every planet in our Solar System (though it is extremely downplayed and under-reported) , yet you want me to be your sort of "errand boy". It's a PowerPlay.... it's a known method used by debaters and other intelligentsia to Distract those seen as "in opposition" from their focus ............as in: "Ok then, let me go scurrying off for a hour or two researching whatever you ask for, Sir!" Either That, .........or you are TOTALLY Not ! Following the Essential information-links Provided in this tribe REPEATEDLY........... and, I ask you........WHAT ARE We to make-think of THAT??!!
Yeah, let's all meet You on Your Terms, on Your playing field, right Mr. Boss?
You don't own this field, Sir.....
You know Where to find the Data, and as a Supposed scientist only interested in the Full Truth, you would be Bringing it Forward, rather than "Playing Games with the Truth" to suit your "preferred view of Reality". -
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Thu, October 22, 2009 - 11:07 AM....and then you'll come back with the oldest ploy "why are you so Angry?" Anger comes with Awareness of how INcredibly INSANE the PowerStructure of Rational (not !) Authoritarianism IS ! Wow ! it is SO Creepy Sick ! ...and it Shows up Everywhere, Even where people gather in Tribes to try and Recover their personal power, their Sanity, their Lives, a Clearspace for Clarity of Thought-Awareness........ but the likes of That has to by Stopped by the 'True Believers' in 'PURE' Rationalism as THE SOLUTION to ALL.
Rationalists want us to "Assume the Position" .... "go fetch me the data" .... "don't be all Emotional, like a Woman"
Stoney-faced, hard-hearted Masculinity Rules the world of power. I'm am not anti-rationality, as I Use rationality in concert with Higher forms of Universal Awareness (heartmind intuition) ..... but I AM standing in opposition to the Gross Abuses of Rationality-gone-MAD ...... Rational-Estab-Dogmas promoted Heavily in opposition to Multi-tudes of alternative, humanistic-specific forms-uses of rationalism ...... not the Closely-centrally-CONtrolled forms..... as Taught in Major Ivy-League Universities...
....if you're not at least moderately Angry, you've Not! been paying attention...... a dangerous game in a world in which Every opening for Exploitation is used, and INattentiveness, lack-of-mindfulness, lack of Personal Empowerment of your Innate Being.................. all these can Easily leave you Open for Exploitation and CONTROL -
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Thu, October 22, 2009 - 12:00 PMso leslie...
are you saying you're a woman...?
I mean leslie is a girl's name kinda can be...
and I guess it might explain why you throw irrational tantrums at certain phases of the moon...
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Thu, October 22, 2009 - 12:15 PMhow do you explain Your irrational tantrums?
why are they so regularly masked as either semi-humor (often as not naught but crude slapshtick),
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Thu, October 22, 2009 - 12:38 PMwell maybe I'm a woman too...?
maybe the planetary consciousness shift has happened and we're all irrational girlies now...
isn't that great...!!!
I feel all objectified and slutty... hahaha
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Thu, October 22, 2009 - 1:17 PMwe all start out as girls in the womb, and about half of us descend our genetalia into a masculine form, and about 90 % of these become hormonally masculine, while about 10% of the biological females become hormonally male.
The transformation I indicate-as-necessary is from a world in which we are most all Subjugated to the masculine principle of MindSpirit, which is descended into a domination by the emotional influences of the 3rd chakra, also called the bellyBrain Neural network (a very complex system which primarily moves what comes in from Above, ...moves it in a Linear, Rational action down a snakelike corridor to a Terminus, i.e. in a sort of deathtrip fatalism when spirit is given over to That).......................transforming This masculine-ish dwelling-of-spiritmind UP into the Heartcenter, which is actually Both masculine & Feminine, but probably more female than male in character.
A Balance of Female-Male psycho-spirituality is Minimally called-for. If we Analyze this balance, it Puts the Heart-Feminine principle OVER the Belly-masculine principle, yet it IS a Natural Hierarchy in the Nature of things. The Male has Physicalized DOMinance.... but it is balanced with the less-physical feminine principle........ and being Female does not "necessarily" mean one has an "advantage"..... as the current world situation demonstrates. As Males, we Do have the Option of being Equal (in psycho-spiritual terms) to Females ..... and this without any Gender Issues... as sexual orientation is more hormonal-developmental, and not-so-much (if at all) psycho-spiritual. Psycho-spirituality is not rooted so much in the body mind as in the SpiritMind, and How the spirit Directs the flows of bodymind with intuition and Intention. -
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Thu, October 22, 2009 - 1:44 PMso you're saying you're a woman and that's why you're irrational etc...? -
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Thu, October 22, 2009 - 2:30 PMso you're saying you are totally clueless and completely disengaged with the information I'm providing in a spirit of good faith that you will benefit from it?
why doesn't Orpheus appear to Really Comprehend.... at All? (always the demeaning, mean-spiritedness cloaked in "humor-at-the-expense-of")
...would that seem too girlish (to abide in a mutual beneficence) for your "orientations" ? -
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Thu, October 22, 2009 - 2:45 PMso are you saying you're a woman or what...? -
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Thu, October 22, 2009 - 3:29 PMi'm saying your question speaks volumes regarding your State-of-Consciousness, "such-as-it-is" ....intending to demean the feminine side of Nature, which is a Consistent Theme that you Present here, with frequent references to Bimbo-ology.... women-as-sexual-objects, rather than ANY hint of respect or comprehension of the Feminine aspects of Spirituality. -
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Thu, October 22, 2009 - 3:37 PMso you're saying that your incomprehensible irrationality is because you're a spiritual woman that doesn't like women's sexuality...? -
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Thu, October 22, 2009 - 3:41 PMYour chronic LACK of Comprehension appears to be an Intentional & Cultivated Pathology, totally UnRelated to..... much of ANYthing of Import. -
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Thu, October 22, 2009 - 3:58 PMyou must get a lot of not being understood...
given that you're putting out your irrational women's stuff...
I mean that "mysterious" unreasonable incomprehensibleness must be what you're after or you'd express yourself coherently...
like a man...
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Thu, October 22, 2009 - 4:50 PM"like a man", like Any proverbial man of intelligence and eloquences, I express myself Clearly and concisely when I can, and enigmatically if I choose. Why are you Always Keen to try and Diminish the Excellence I Bring Here? Your unwillingness or inability to do so for Yourself. You 'occasion" moments of useful informativeness, which only UNDERScores the Pathology (psycho-spiritually) which Afflicts you due to Deliberate Intent, as you have the CAPAcity to Comprehend, rather than commit Ongoing Psycho-VANDALISM to anything Infused with a functional Spirit of Liberation from the Very Oppressive circumstances which you disingenuously "Lament"..
I would call this "Subversion of the Human spirit of individuality" at its worst., in that it Seduces Many with its thin Facade of "innocence" & "funniness"...semi-humor "At the Expense Of". -
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Fri, October 23, 2009 - 12:57 AMso you're saying that you're a man but you choose to be an unreasonable lady when it comes to such things as communication and spirituality...?
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Fri, October 23, 2009 - 9:28 AMNo.... I saying, among a lot of Other things, that your line of semi-passive, semi-aggressive "Questions" are, as usual, intending towards a demeaning,.... and That Intention Demeans, Debases, DeFrauds (in that it Originates from You) YOU as well as the Climate of Discussion in general. My Communications regarding spirituality, and everything else, are predominantly Quite straightforward..... and Your Digressions are Consistently IRRElevant and often Ugly in Character...... despite the mask of mirthy punctuations of Nero-esque belly-laughs. Ring, ring, dominance games posed in opposition to efforts Towards higher Consciousness can be IDentified 'as such', and thereby prevent psycho-psychic-social deceptions, which is How the purpose of your Presence and Methods motivates you to perform in the 'manner' that you do (psychic-energetic parasitism)....
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Fri, October 23, 2009 - 9:45 AM<<so why can't you answer the questions instead of making distracting derogatory asides...? >>>
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Fri, October 23, 2009 - 9:51 AMI'm responding to the essence of the so-called "questions". I know how your game works..... and you are fraudulent in your transparently Posed questioning, having No interest in the true essence of inquiry, but predatorially Seeking a hint of co-operative spirit, ...in Order to RIP apart Any SUCH Well-Intended Movement-towards-Sincere-Connectedness,. ...Always the Impulse towards Making TRULY "distracting derogatory asides".
Always.
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Fri, October 23, 2009 - 10:19 AMwell you see...
why can't you co-operatively answer a question...?
if you had a point to make then by answering questions co-operatively you could make it...
but you choose to accuse imaginary demons instead of responding...
you diss the masculine and education and this and that...
and then asked what it is you're trying to say you just diss some more...
and all this whilst proclaiming some kind of "spiritual" superiority...
and then the loop goes around again...
you can't answer the question because that would be reasonable which would mean the primacy of the wrong part of the brain for to be proper irrational transcendental enlightenment...
at which point I ask you again...
are you right because you're an irrational woman or what...?
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Fri, October 23, 2009 - 10:23 AM<<are you right because you're an irrational woman or what...? >>>
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Fri, October 23, 2009 - 10:29 AManswer an IDIOTIC Question...... and guess what happens 'by association'
I'd Rather you not even address me or my posts Ever Again, nor follow me to Other tribes with your DeMeaning Remarks, as you have frequently done.
....best wishes on your journey, but it's Not one I choose to share, to be a part of. You Exist primarily in your belly-brain, and you Abuse Others accordingly. Your Excuse is that Everyone Else is doing it.... Except some of us choose not to go there anymore...... but as an Addict, you want us All to Participate in our Old addictions. You Seek Co-Dependency, and I Choose to Abandon the old addictions.
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Fri, October 23, 2009 - 11:08 AMby the way, as a confession of my imperfections, I killed another mouse last night, by leaving a baited trap out. It's in that same spirit of reluctant self-preservation that I seem hard-hearted, BUT one has to know one's own limitations, to Avoid catastrophe consequences of Allowing certain Ongoing situations to continue unopposed......... (story of the tragedies of my life, really)
For some 10 years I would catch & release mice in live traps, but Could Not keep up with them..... they breed quickly, prolifically, they poop & pee on Everything, get into Everything, Keep one Awake half the night as they scurry around.................... Distracting me until my mind was so Fuzzied I had a minor fenderbender that Could have been Extremely Serious............ so..... One does and Says what one Has to for Self-Preservation, or inappropriate self-subversion (heartlessness to self in deference to others) can make you a Victim of your Own giving-away-your-power-to-others.... be they mice or men.
Balance, appropriate balance, Healthy Boundaries.
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Fri, October 23, 2009 - 1:05 PMless nooks and tidier crannies = less mouses. so says the feminine of the bunch...
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Fri, October 23, 2009 - 1:24 PMor to put it another way and get it back on thread kinda...
did the balloon boy have an alien abduction experience or did he hide in a box whilst his parents did a scam to get some media attention...?
and then either way...
is there some significant encoded message about the coming end times being put out by the noosphere from this event...?
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Fri, October 23, 2009 - 11:08 AMit's your choice to respond to posts or not and to answer questions or not...
as it is my choice to read and to question posts as I choose...
it is also my choice to try to be reasonable...
even if it is obviously futile... ;)
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Fri, October 23, 2009 - 11:32 AMTo whom it may concern:
Physically, psycho-sexually, I'm as masculine as most any man. Spiritually, I'm also masculine, yet in equal measure or More, I am fully developed in my Feminine Nature, as I envision any Truly Health male would Prefer to Be if they Understood that this doesn't necessarily involve a lot (or any, if you prefer) of feminized, gayish, transsexual mannerisms.... not that there's necessarily much "wrong " with that if one Does have such tendencies...... but to some of us, our Libidos and aesthetic personal preferences do Not harmonize with That as an Ideal or a sympatic method of expressing "the feminine aspects of mind" (to some of us it would evoke memories of weird, unwanted encounters that are Below Heart resonances.... and so 'sickish' in that sensibility of perception)
On a level of Heart & above (higher dimensional spirituality) I AM also (as well as being a masculine deity) a Goddess....... and it is possible we all at least have potential to develop & express both male & female Aspects of Divinity. Some will MIX Up their masculine & feminine quite extensively ...... I do so Only as needed.... preferring to keep Higher Self in separate Male-Female roles ..... and the Complexities of maintaining that may be too difficult for those who don't fully understand how Higher Spirit Functions..... as it Does get Quite convoluted, requiring extensive "Mindfulness"-of-Purpose and Dynamic Flexibilty in the Larger Scheme of Destinies.
If you Don't Understand this, please Refrain from Criticisms and ridicule, which are Entirely Inappropriate. Just "let it Be" for the Benefit of those who Do Understand the significances whereof I speak.
Hoping this Helps, and puts an end to the haranguing. -
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Fri, October 23, 2009 - 12:12 PMwell it's nice that you seem to have made an effort to reply to this simple question...
but obviously this response is still more of the same...
and it isn't "haranguing" to say so...
basically it seems that you have a convoluted "cosmology" in which gender plays a part and which you juggle as you see fit to position yourself as superior so when you feel like it you wave the goddess flag to justify whatever you want to and to polarise and demonise and abuse anybody with a different perspective...
and then you cry wolf again when you're called on it...
as an illustration basically it seems like you've got a bunch of hats and instead of "rationalising" you just choose a hat and a dance to go with it which then makes you right...
well of course this is indeed infuriating to "rational" types...
but it is also extremely intriguing...
as it's a different system...
it's almost kinda like a hip-hop challenge approach to dialogue...
which of course is indeed frighteningly threatening to sad old reasonable academic types...
you see...
for another example the thulean allegiances...
hoagland and icke and wilcock all seem like total uneducated flakes to some of us...
so what system can we pin on them...?
well as I can't see any shred of coherent reasoning in their propositions I just tend to see them as iconic blond guys...
which is also often how they are accredited in their introductions...
which of course is kinda similar to how things work in the "rational" world too...
and this quasi-absurdist overlap makes the whole trip even scarier...
do you see what I'm getting at...?
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Fri, October 23, 2009 - 2:25 PMyour "opinion" was Specifically indicated (repeatedly, in many different ways) to be unwelcome (due to Chronic abuse), yet you violate every trust. Your opinions are ill-informed, and Uninformed by Any thing other than 'conventional wisdom', which is devoid of any real wisdom beyond the most gross physical concerns. You know Nothing of any Import regarding 2012 & Metaphysics, and make a Great Noise as if you knew everything.
FYI: an agenda of Hatred of Germanic people i.e. "blond...thulean" (whether subtle or non-subtle) is as racist as hatred of any folk.
If there is no sense of degrees of superiority of one integrity relative to another, in some value scale of Import in Discernment, then you would be correct in your "All is Evil" assessments.......... but your assertions are ridiculously insane and out-in-left field....... posturing Worthless judgments, because you have No respect or Apparent Understanding of relative values.
You are Ignorant of all things Spiritual, and Unwelcome here (nothing personal, but everything Practical in building community & communication) to Many people who have come here seeking a safe place to Express what they know and aspire towards....do you See what I'm "getting at"? -
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Fri, October 23, 2009 - 3:10 PMI don't hate germans...
I'm just pointing out that there is a thulean theosophical thread in new age culture...
blood and tribe seems to be a validating criteria for most people one way or another...
and not one that I'm particularly in favour of regardless of who is dealing it...
seems like you're the one with hate issues...
do you see what I'm getting at...? -
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Fri, October 23, 2009 - 7:09 PMno hate issues here, more like Irritation issues, and No Wonder, that ...... -
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Sat, October 24, 2009 - 12:30 AMoh no hate issues huh...?
the constant reactive abuse and the endless systematic attempts to incite some kind of mob rule exclusion zone...?
that is some serious pathological irritation...
for a few questions asking for an elucidation of what it is you're trying to say... ;)
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Sat, October 24, 2009 - 7:49 AMyours is/Are the ACTIVE Abuse(s), and any abuse I may Return, would be a reflection of THAT!!!!!!
the fact that I'm Empathic, and that you inspire an ILL manner with your entrenched Madness, is Far from Anything resembling hatred. You are an absolute Waste of emotional energies, as Everything you do leads Nowhere but to Dumping upon others your own Sicknesses and Useless "go rounds".
The fact that you Possess a fair measure of Intelligence only ADDS to the Aggravations that there remains a Refusal to modify your Contrived Misbehaviors ....one Jot. It's inexcusable, and it is of the Same Sort of Dysfunctionality Native to the sick minds who maintain a shrouded control of the world..... and perpetrate the horrors that you disingenuously "lament". -
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Sat, October 24, 2009 - 8:11 AMwell there you go again...
the evidence is ever present and yet...
you seem amazingly comfortable refuting it...
gleeful in your insistently brazenly irrational denials...
dancing little pirouettes of absurdity to accuse all and sundry...
of insanity with the exception of course of all those who are patently insane... ;)
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Sat, October 24, 2009 - 8:38 AMThe Bickering Until 2012 tribe... -
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Sat, October 24, 2009 - 11:08 AMThe Bickering Until 2012 tribe...
heheh that was funny
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Sat, October 24, 2009 - 11:18 AMLeslie: "Why are you Always Keen to try and Diminish the Excellence I Bring Here?"
It's not even excellence in bickering. (I think that prize goes to the big O.) -
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Sat, October 24, 2009 - 1:06 PMI Defend my Space, ... and I Don't SEEK OUT trouble....something which O Does repeatedly. .... not only Interjecting his negativities at virtually Every Post or subject I bring forth Here, but doing the Same to Me on Other tribes............ it's like Stalking, but with a clown face, because we All known clowns are just funny,.... right?
...and there IS Excellence in what I bring here, Except to RATionalists...... are you Familiar with rational dysfunctionalism? It's Taught in All the Big Colleges.... but Not by That Name. -
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Sat, October 24, 2009 - 1:40 PMindeed in the face of a most frightening foe the brave knight of the order of the absurd gender flux is surely defending the sovereign space of her most excellently functional thulean empire throughout the known universes and further into innumerable female dimensions of spirit and other weird unconstrained by logic stuff beyond the infinite beyond etc...!!!!!!!!!!
www.youtube.com/watch -
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Sat, October 24, 2009 - 2:36 PM -
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Sat, October 24, 2009 - 2:59 PMa family of storm-chasing amateur scientists who conduct wacky experiments, from launching rockets to searching for extra-terrestrials.
the world needs more families like this that are prepared to ask questions about the big questions that amateur scientists need to question about like how to get abducted on tv and stuff so they can escape to the right side of the economic divide as the reptoid powers that be prepare for total hyperinflation peoploid refineries etc...
everybody knows that only the media friendly folk will upgrade from trailer parks to survive in comfy bunkerland...
I think for sure they have a valid claim for some mo bettah quantitative easing...
at least they've showed willing...
probably...
but beans and bunkers don't mix...
and cabbage ain't recommended either...
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O
Sat, October 24, 2009 - 2:58 PMlook at that.. you've become so everpresent here as to have your own initial~
i'm sorry if i haven't yet gleaned this from your previous posts... however, i still find myself curious... why are you here on this discussion board? what are you getting from this discussion you engage in?
what do you really think of the fact that at least four people in this group have actively engaged you with the suggestion that your behavior is trollish and non-conducive to a wholesome online discussion board?
i see your humility on your own terms... i'm wondering if you have any on group terms?
and don't get me wrong... i totally dig that a true master is neither concerned with praise nor criticism... but... just one guy to another... what gives? -
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Re: O
Sat, October 24, 2009 - 3:04 PMit would seem so...
dunno...
why do you exist even...?
I think they're kinda weird folk who seem to like to complain about others a lot whilst offering very little other than complaints which was kinda borne out by their chasing out a moderator that was democratically elected because their minority is just into complaining etc...
what are you trying to say...?
are you on drugs...? -
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Re: O
Sat, October 24, 2009 - 3:21 PMthis tangent from the original discussion has been redirected here;
2012.tribe.net/thread/86c...4132c15af5b
thanks,
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Sat, October 24, 2009 - 2:57 PM"...and there IS Excellence in what I bring here, Except to RATionalists.."
I have to concede, Leslie, that you are a consistent Irrationalist even in your assertion that there is excellence in what you bring here. -
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Sat, October 24, 2009 - 3:00 PMooohhp... i think you just got a fan in Hoopes there Leslie!
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Thu, October 22, 2009 - 11:19 AMdavid icke and david wilcock...?
darn good representatives of the thulean science of irrationality...!!!
www.youtube.com/watch
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Fri, October 23, 2009 - 3:11 PMalso the worst channelling ever. probably overtired from watching stargate dvd's
www.youtube.com/watch
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Wed, October 21, 2009 - 7:31 AM>>Delusional behaviour and ego pampering has skyrocketed along with it, and it has become a self fulfilling prophecy in the sense that even when nothing happens, a lot will happen.<<<
Excellent point... There has been so much hype that no matter what, something will happen because of this exact reason... Terrorists may even use this hype and date to plan their next event against mankind. So much has been written into this date that it won't just past without some event happening for the same reason that Ramon stated...
A perfect example of this "self fulfilled prophecy" is the Branch Davidians... ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_Siege )
David Koresh fortold of their apocalypse and end times that they would burn and in the end, they "brought about their own burning"~!
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Wed, October 21, 2009 - 9:16 AMso are you saying that the police are going to shoot a load of new agers in 2012...?
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Wed, October 21, 2009 - 2:25 AMisn't icke and his ilk mostly about how antisemitism is responsible for the thulean genocides etc...? -
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Wed, October 21, 2009 - 2:31 AMI worded that wrong...
I of course meant that icke and his ilk propose a paranoid kind of convoluted antisemitism etc...
www.youtube.com/watch
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Tue, October 20, 2009 - 9:47 PMI dunno, I suspect the 2012 tie-in is more publicity fodder. I would think it would be easier to build a bunker than to launch a chef's hat UFO. -
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Tue, October 20, 2009 - 9:54 PMAccording to Thomas (who may not be a reliable source), Heene's original intention was to create another Roswell-type incident:
"Can we attract UFO's with a homemade flying saucer? We will modify a weather balloon, so that it resembles a UFO and will electrically charge the skin of the craft (Biefield-Brown Effect). We will capture the footage on film, and will utilize the media as a means with which to make our presence known to the masses. This will not only provide us with incredible footage, but will also generate a tremendous amount of controversy among the public, as well as publicity within the mainstream media. This will be the most significant UFO-related news event to take place since the Roswell Crash of 1947, and the result will be a dramatic increase in local and national awareness about The Heene Family, our Reality Series, as well as the UFO Phenomenon in general."
gawker.com/5383858/excl...-balloon-hoax
Kind of makes you wonder what other highly publicized UFO sightings may have been intentional hoaxes...
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Tue, October 20, 2009 - 10:21 PM<<2012 tie-in is more publicity fodder>>
insanity defense ? ..... he could fall into the cuckoo's nest
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Tue, October 20, 2009 - 11:28 PMTHE SUN'S GOING TO EXPLODE!!!!!!
Why didn't anybody tell me, I have to go and buy some sunscreen. -
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Wed, October 21, 2009 - 1:51 AMNo, no, no.
Once the sun dies you won't need sunscreen.
...just another star system.
Make a ship with duct tape and tin foil like numbnuts.
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Thu, October 22, 2009 - 4:04 PMAncient Mayans Foretold 2012—and Balloon Boy!
www.eonline.com/uberblog/b...ashand.html
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Thu, October 22, 2009 - 4:07 PMNASA addresses Balloon Boy dad's end-of-the-world theory
news.cnet.com/8301-17852_...9358-71.html
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Re: Balloon Boy Dad Has 2012 Fears
Thu, October 22, 2009 - 4:12 PMWe're All Balloon Boys Now
online.wsj.com/article/SB...219306.html
"In 1938, Orson Welles caused a sensation when he did a 'reality' radio broadcast announcing a Martian invasion. Now we get the equivalent of a Martian invasion almost every day; or maybe it's every other hour.
"One assumes the visuals in most TV commercials now are fake. Ten years ago it was fun to wonder how Chevy managed to airlift a truck onto a pencil-wide peak in Utah. Now you assume a geek at a computer did it. A semi-scandal broke out in the fashion world recently when it came to light that a Photoshopped ad from Ralph Lauren had made model Filippa Hamilton's head weirdly wider than her waist and hips.
"This week the mainstream media have been learning the danger of living in a cut-and-paste world."
