Alien Agenda

topic posted Tue, May 6, 2008 - 12:27 PM by  Unsubscribed
Hi all!

It's been a while. I'm not on here anymore that often as I've been busy with other things, but I assume everyone is doing good.
I still see familiar faces on here.

One of the things I've done over the past weeks, was writing an essay about ET's, Aliens (whatever you may call "them"), Contact, etc.......basically putting to paper what I've come across over the years, not all of it, but the essentials.

I've noticed some posts about the Alien/ET topic on here, so I thought I'd share it for some food for thought.
It's a bit lengthy (I actually could write a book about it, I realized half way through) and was too long for blog or thread.
So here's the link to it:

www.bernhardguenther.com/Alien...da.htm

Enjoy!
Peace.
B:-)
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  • Re: Alien Agenda

    Tue, May 6, 2008 - 2:52 PM

    Thanks for your Kung Fu ( time+effort)
    • Re: Alien Agenda

      Tue, May 6, 2008 - 5:05 PM
      drink any
      good
      beer
      while away?
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        Re: Alien Agenda

        Tue, May 6, 2008 - 8:42 PM
        no, I haven't even had any beer this year so far, just a glass of vine.
        Not too much into beer and alcohol these days........I know, doesn't help my "german image" really.

        :-)
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          Tue, May 6, 2008 - 10:47 PM
          don't worry about the image
          of course, if you do not know HOW to consume the wicked wh/ale
          then i would be in same spot, or so to speak

          beer, as most alcohol, was intended to keep the masses numbed zumbed out
          but at least, if not for that short period of time it allows,
          something, to look forward to
          outlawed the tru brew, same as hemp...
        • Re: Alien Agenda

          Tue, May 6, 2008 - 11:00 PM
          Hi Bernhard,

          always nice to have you pop in. i kinda figured your aliensense would be tingling.

          i've only just started your essay... and naturally my editorsenses are on fire. you may want to reconsider your opening sentence which contains the words; 'ridicule', 'disbelief' and 'blind belief'.

          and you may want to rethink the first sentence in the second paragraph which includes the words " don’t take this subject very serious and don’t give it much thought at all.".

          i look forward to reading the rest... i'm sure the moving targets will be dazzling!

          boogYmanhug,
          • Re: Alien Agenda

            Tue, May 6, 2008 - 11:41 PM
            nice effort Bernhard. unfortunately i must declare it to be a hot steaming heap of fear mongering disinformation.

            hope you are getting more action over on myspace.

            do your massage and "healing" clients read this stuff?
            i saw that you were offering a Reiki sale a few weeks back.... what were you charging? $45 an hour?
            you should be ashamed of yourself.

            seriously.

            ofcourseyouarehuggedallthesame,
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              Re: Alien Agenda

              Wed, May 7, 2008 - 12:44 AM
              Hi David, thanks for your insight.
              If you could tell me specifically, what in my essay is disinformation and why, please let me know.
              I'm happy to correct any mistake. I would never claim to be excempt from error.

              As for my style, well I know you don't like it, others do, it's a matter of taste, for me, it's just me and I prefer being direct sometimes.
              In regards to the opening sentence, I'm actually not quite happy with it myself, even before you told me, but for now it works....it took me a while to write it all, so I'm a bit tired. I'll look at it again tomorrow.

              As for the "fear mongering" accusation, I'm sorry you got scared. It was not my intention.
              You may want to examine within yourself, what it is in you that is afraid.
              Meditation helps.
              I'm simply presenting some material by long time UFO researchers and pose some questions about it.
              i have no fear, nor am i worried, quite excited actually. These are great times to be alive.
              Don't buy into fear, David! Give yourself a hug!

              What has my profession, personal life and your accusation/attack do with this essay?
              Is that your famous scorpio sting again?

              So predictable...

              At least roger's beer question was unexpected and creative.

              Are you still offering $20 Blow Jobs, or is that sale over allready?

              Tststs....your Dad would be ashamed of you.

              Loveyouandabighug!

              I'm not too much myspace or tribe these days. It's much more fun over here:
              www.sott.net/signs/forum/index.php

              Step by at any time.

              Peace.
              B:-)
              • Re: Alien Agenda

                Wed, May 7, 2008 - 1:12 AM
                the problem is Bernhard... in order to point out the specific disinformation it would require me to write up an essay about 20% as long as yours... and that is a waste of my time. so it is sufficient for me to simply state the obvious... which is that your essay is nothing more than the spreading of other peoples mis and disinformation.

                you've been so suckered it's almost comical... were it not so sad.

                as for your style... yeahhh.... it sucks. and it's not about you being direct... it's about your inability to be credible and thus persuasive. your very choice of opening words and statements makes that clear. if what you propose is true... you wouldn't bother telling us all about all the 'ridicule', 'disbelief' and 'blind belief' you experience.

                you are fear mongering. and as for you saying "I'm sorry you got scared.".... you only prove yourself to be playing the fool.

                >>>"What has my profession, personal life and your accusation/attack do with this essay?"

                as far as i can tell... you put all the effort and time into spreading this fear as a means to not only give yourself something to do in your spare time... but also to increase eyeballs to your profile and site and so advertise your "healing" services. not to mention, the more dis-ease you create in people and the world around you... the more clients you and those of your ilk will attract.

                you are a charlatan Bernhard. unlike your reference to blowjobs... my mention of you advertising here on Tribe for Reiki at $45 an hour is truth.

                and Bernhard, as far as you bringing up my recently departed father.... go fuck yourself you fucketyfuck.
                • Re: Alien Agenda

                  Wed, May 7, 2008 - 2:11 AM
                  come come, guys... (no pun intended)....i don't think Bernhard meant anything by it. and i can stand by him as a bodyworker, david, he is certainly not a charlaton....god you guys, come on! aren't we all in this for the love?

                  p.s. love you guys!
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                    Re: Alien Agenda

                    Wed, May 7, 2008 - 2:26 AM
                    ok, B, i just got thru the first half of it, ...so far i see no inherent problems with it, including the first couple sentances....if you are speaking the truth, what's the problem...people have discredited UFO info for eons....what's wrong with declaring that upfront?

                    i'll let you know more of my (not always so humble) opinion as i read more....

                    :) good to see you bud
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                    Re: Alien Agenda

                    Wed, May 7, 2008 - 8:42 AM
                    hi little flower, since i know you personally i feel a little reluctant in giving you a hard time... but... just for clarification, you stand by Bernhard as a body worker? does that mean you condone the moving of energy in the form of Reiki at $$ per hour?

                    let me ask then little flower. do you practice this kind of 'healing' for money as well?

                    it's all Love despite all the non-benevolent Beings that this silly essay is trying to convince us are out there.
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                    Re: Alien Agenda

                    Wed, May 7, 2008 - 2:33 PM
                    << aren't we all in this for the love? >>

                    i feel the love between Beranard and David is as powerful as the love between these guys -

                    images.google.co.uk/imgres

                    lol
                    • Re: Alien Agenda

                      Wed, May 7, 2008 - 3:11 PM
                      everybody?
                      a tad bit
                      bitter
                      here?

                      jesus,
                      or for others 'uninitiated'
                      here
                      charges for channeling

                      press the paypay button at the bottom of the page
                      • Re: Alien Agenda

                        Wed, May 7, 2008 - 6:24 PM
                        "etc.. but it doesn't make it a wholesome act." - David

                        You or I simply cannot JUDGE what is wholesome and/or healing for someone else. To me it really comes down to the "intention" of the healer and the recipient in that very moment.... ....ultimately this is something we simply cannot know as third party observers.

                        If you feel Rieki in general is a charlatan practice then that is different than condemning a particular practitioner but even that still leaves the possibility that positive healing can take place.

                        PEACEnHUGS
  • Re: Alien Agenda

    Wed, May 7, 2008 - 8:44 AM
    thanks bernard! what Dr. Karla Turner documented resonates with me. i appreciate your insight and work.

    how does one separate fact from fiction when those who have been exposed to aliens know all to well that they can alter perceptions? what i've concluded is that perhaps one can just say, "this is the vision i saw" response.

    regarding the sexual aspect of it.... it is a predominant fixture in all this that i've seen. genetics, reproduction and importantly, astral control. sexual relations and orgasm create huge chords between people / entities that are hard to break. aliens and the government mind control programs use this as a form of control.

    joanne






    • Re: Alien Agenda

      Wed, May 7, 2008 - 9:16 AM

      "let me ask then little flower. do you practice this kind of 'healing' for money as well? "

      David you seem to be implying there is something wrong with being compensated for doing healing work?...!
      ... that just seems silly to me!

      • Re: Alien Agenda

        Wed, May 7, 2008 - 9:22 AM
        MrOneness, i am stating that moving energy for money is a scam. the only thing that might happen is some of the symptoms are temporarily relieved. this may be a neat trick... but it is not healing.

        give a massage... fine.. charge money for your time and effort.
        practice an energy moving modality and charge $45 an hour.... that is the work of a charlatan.

        now sure.. there are many out there that do this... but it doesn't make it a wholesome act.
        • Re: Alien Agenda

          Wed, May 7, 2008 - 10:15 AM
          I find reiki and the like to be alien energy agendas. Well meaning alien agendas.
          • Re: Alien Agenda

            Wed, May 7, 2008 - 1:55 PM
            David, thank you for trying to spare my feelings since we do know each other in real life....actually in my healing bodywork practice, i tend to massage (tissue manipulative) and not so much focus on the energywork (reiki and the like), but i do it if it seems appropriate, if it is asked for specifically, or if i ask my client if it's OK.......so what are you suggesting? if i end up doing a 1/2 hour "massage" and the other 1/2 hour becomes a reiki energy session, then i should suddenly only charge for 1/2 the session? i agree with the above poster, you seem to think that people should'nt be compensated for doing healing work......i do understand where you're coming from on a certain level with this, as i thought it was abhorent that my old reiki teacher charged $75 an hour for a session.....but some people would gladly pay $45 for a little relief, as you call it.....so you're saying that energywork should be done for free and you should only start geting paid when you're actually working the muscles? where do you draw the line? or is is the amount of $?

            i myself have never actually charged a separate fee for reiki, if you must know.......like i said, i can somewhat see where you're coming from with this......to me, it has always felt like something there should be more of a barter for, maybe partial cash, partial....tobacco, sage, gift, etc.....i dunno, but YES i stand by B as a bodyworker.....he has good hands, integrity, and a good heart, ....i have no problem with him charging for bodywork......maybe if he was trying to charge $300 an hour or something......but for that you usually kind of have to do strange things like take your clothes off and manipulate people in other, more freaky ways (or so i've heard).......which

            brings us back to the topic at hand......
            can't wait to read more, as i have not had the time, although, like a girl who posted another topic here under "Aliens" i too have had numerous dreams of being "taken up" up up and away.....finding myself on a cold steel operating table, while outer space stars float by outside, weird instruments stuck in my ears, etc.......so many dreams......i am lucid in some of them......once asking an alien who was floating in a self contained bubble ship outside my mom's house in Ohio, (after it told me it was a reporter)...if they would be back? "Yes", it told me, "we'll be back"......weird shit like that......seeing them manifest out of thin air in the sky....huge several football fields long ships looking like they were made out of some type of giant piping, all melding together in once giant mass.....kind of menacing actually

            i think in general, we all have well meaning agendas, or we wouldn't be here......and i tend to think that "intelligent life" out there would be somewhat peaceful as well, curious, and maybe scared of us in some ways too.....
            • Reiki for $$

              Thu, May 8, 2008 - 9:24 AM
              Hi little flower, thanks for the response. it would seem to me that you understand to some degree why i take exception to those who advertise and charge money for energy moving modalities such as Reiki. and seeing as Bernhard was advertising a Discount Reiki session for $45.... i can only wonder what his regular charge is.

              i don't have much time to cover this in detail. however i'm sure we'll get a chance to connect on a dancefloor near us and so talk about it further.

              it comes down to this. there are many different powers or tricks that anyone can learn, develop and practice. and one of these is the kind of energy manipulation involved in Reiki. the problem with this kind of action is that without complete and Whole understanding of the effects of these actions we run the risk of creating unknown dis-ease and disharmony. this form of subtle energy manipulation is particularly dubious because the manipulations are often not consciously detectable to either the 'healer' or the 'patient'. and this is what draws the line between the physical movement of tissue and muscle verses the subtle manipulation of energy.

              now... it is one thing if one spontaneously acts in accordance with energies present. it is entirely another thing to set out to attract paying customers for this because this puts the so called 'healer' who is getting paid and the customer who is paying, in the position of producing results regardless of what is best for the Whole.

              i'm not a big fan of healing for money... but i understand that it is an ingrained element in the current society we live in. however when someone like Bernhard spends so much effort and time spreading disinfomation and fear and then in the same online space advertises their 'healing' services for money... i must speak out against this.

              hope this makes sense.
              and i do hope to see you soon littleflower! perhaps you'll be joining us on the 17th?

              ihugyouverymuch,
              • Re: Reiki for $$

                Thu, May 8, 2008 - 8:27 PM
                " i can only wonder what his regular charge is"

                And I wonder whether there's a surcharge for the White Widow that helps the "energy" flow so smoothly...
                • Re: Reiki for $$

                  Thu, May 8, 2008 - 8:35 PM
                  By the way, I'm offering a discount on long-distance vibrational realignments of Kirlian auras via powerful brain waves that I am known to generate during high-energy REM sleep. A bargain at $75 per session (though it usually requires at least five--one for each of the directional Pauhatuns and a fifth for the special "axis mundi" session--to achieve maximum benefits).

                  I accept PayPal.
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                    Re: Reiki for $$

                    Thu, May 8, 2008 - 8:47 PM
                    wow, half the price! I'll be giving you a call at 4:22 am precisely.
                    and if I find out thats a recording of your snoring like that last fuck**g sedona schister I'll be sending my disgruntled soul fragments your way for a proctological cleansing with these here quartz wands; copper wire lavishly soldered with st germain's channeled love fingers
                • Re: Reiki for $$

                  Thu, May 8, 2008 - 8:45 PM
                  I love you mary jane!
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                    Re: Reiki for $$

                    Fri, May 9, 2008 - 2:54 AM
                    i wonder how many people on this thread who are knocking reki have in fact tried it - and tried it from different practioners ?

                    my feeling about it is some are mostly likely rubbish, some maybe have a bit power, and a few have strong powers, as most things in the "new age" movment.

                    Isnt it part of most ancient wisdom that our body energies can be altered by others, and that can be healing, though i think those who can do this , thats another matter. youd have to try it before you judge it right ?

                    In China the idea of "chi" energy is a a common and universal idea embraced by about 1,500 millon people as real as gravity is in the west, and some tai chi and kung fu masters can do spectaclur stuff with it.

                    Id say you cant know stuff till you try it, and personaly i havnt tried reiki, but know someone whos opion i respect who has and got benift from it.
                    • Re: Reiki for $$

                      Fri, May 9, 2008 - 2:25 PM
                      I have had some amazing experiences with Reiki....receiving and giving.....

                      don't knock it until you try it....

                      and please don't pick on B...he's a nice bloke and he means well...
                    • Re: Reiki for $$

                      Fri, May 9, 2008 - 3:12 PM
                      well, I performed an impartial blind test on the missus while she slept to see if it would make her feel exceptionally well in the morning. She woke up like, 10 mins into the session kinda drowsy and muttering. I told her I was healing her, which I guess spoilt the impartiality of it as she got really irked and pushed me off. I tried it a second time and she ended up sleeping on the sofa. I guess her chi was blocked by the morning, as she was really cranky with me all day, regardless of my intent. So yeah, reiki is new-age bullshit.
                      • Re: Reiki for $$

                        Fri, May 9, 2008 - 6:22 PM
                        I get cranky when people mess with me, while i'm sleeping...
                        • Re: Reiki for $$

                          Sat, May 10, 2008 - 12:32 AM
                          Yeah Brad, my thoughts exactly....

                          >>performed an impartial blind test on the missus while she slept

                          seriously Chondler? you did this? sorry but that is just so uncool...and to assume that reiki doesn't work because your partner didn't want to be "healed" (or fucked with) while she was sleeping WITHOUT HER PERMISSION --- well that is just some kind of bullshit......are you trained in reiki? do you know that you need to ask permission before performing this kind of stuff.....just so irresponsible......
                          • Re: Reiki for $$

                            Sat, May 10, 2008 - 11:50 AM
                            Exactly... Not knowing the pressure point or even the meridians... you probably did send Ki (chi) in to the wrong point... maybe even one that does release anger and crankiness... Plus yea... Don't ever practice with out permission and don't mess with sleeping people... unless it is expressed to do so...
                            Hopefully she gets over it... and you didn't cause more damage...
                            Reiki in not just about intention... Thu it does help...
                            There is an exact science of pressure points... similar to acupuncture... Which... BTW... people have used to go under surgery... with tremendous results... Some have even used it for dentistry..
                            I have not studied ReiKi in it's full depth nor am I a master...
                            I have studied:
                            * Aikido
                            * Kiatsu (personal health and healing)
                            * Ki Breathing
                            * Ki Meditation
                            * Sokushin no Gyo (bell meditation

                            Kiatsu... is very, very similar to ReiKi.... But the training is longer actually and you gain more knowledge of Ki and Pressure Points...
                      • Re: Reiki for $$

                        Sat, May 10, 2008 - 9:16 AM
                        "I tried it a second time and she ended up sleeping on the sofa."

                        That says it all. I think you're the one who should have wound up on the floor.

                        "regardless of my intent"

                        The road to hell is paved with good intentions.