Hey Mordana --
i love your positive H.D. attitude (hippy-dippy)...seriously, i do...along with hoopes scholarly attitude, wil's grounded attitude, rog's poetic attitude, mia, elo, brad, ....on and on...i really enjoy this tribe.
but i deeply feel we, as a civ, are on a destructive, cataclysimic course...and as we continue to further remove ourselves from nature, we become less prepared for the coming changes. i don't really know what to make of it all...but all i have to do is look into the eyes of some lost/empty soul...and my heart sinks to my gut...


gotta get to work...will try to elaborate later -- keep on keepin on...


"I'm still putting out the vibes to manifest a starship, kinda like how i obtained a food processor, i found it on the side of the street!" -- i'm with ya, brad.

doesn't all mean doom and gloom.

i look forward to the process. there awaits a better life whether or not we are around in 3D to go through it.

it will and it's necessary.

I'm co-creating my reality with Elo and Mordana, a double Timewave Zero birthday is pretty auspicious, perhaps I should spend the end of the dreamtime in Australia with the Aborigines and cyber-pagans down under!

Also would be a good year to finally get to the Blackrock City Burn, rather than the regionals Ive been, if the other people in 2012 THemecamp will have me!

ha ha Mordana, i dont know maybe the pyramids is a good a spot as any, after all thats where a lot of this all began didnt it, and if you look at the land mass of the earth laid out flat, egypt is pretty close to the centre.

I also belive the Great Pyramids have some kind of unique configuration with the star systems Orieon and Sirus and maybe even extra terristrial intellgence. Alister Crowly for one is said to have communicated with extra terristial intelligence there.

I doubt were ALL of us going to end up in smoke, maybe some but not all by a long shot. I know you have some pretty mad polticians over your way Travis and Mia, but i just dont think the rest of the world is going to let the Republicans party (or even Obama for that matter who knows) blow us all up ! If it starts to get that bad re Iran/Isreal/ pakistan/India, korea, your going to see both Europe, China and India to mention just a few push for calm and sense much more - though currently i leave the UK out of Europe, we are actuly geting almost as bad as you lot ! I dont know what Bush done to Blair when the met up first time, but it certainly seemed to affect him with some strange kind of insanity. Germany and France were extremely unhappy at what happend in Iraq, that attitude will be much much more widespread second time around.

So i dont rate the chances of a complete global destructive war too high at all. I belive in the next 5-15 years we are going to come to our senses collectivly about the enviorment. The signs are there already. Jeffry sachs has formulated an estimate of only around 1% global GDP over a sustained period to fix this. ANd there is a big push amongst a growing group of people for fairer wealth distrubution. When America goes through its big transformation the next 7 years i think it will stop dragging its feet over that, and teh movement in Europe for it too will accelerate. Most of the developed worlds incomes are growing at around 2% anualy anyway, so we as the future moves forward these problems become increasingly easy to solve if we have the right mind set.

I belive eventualy we will find the right mind set. A new and postive global indentity, instead of a national identity, will be one component of this. Many people in the 16 - 26 year old age bracket are already developing this kind of indentity now, especialy in Europe and the developed Far east.

We have already seen a growing mass movment for increased spirtuality, the 60's movment for spirtual self development has grown from a percived bunch of "mad hippies" on the fringe, to now books like Celestine prohecy selling many millions world wide and Deepak Chopra becoming an almost household name. I know people with very "square" jobs who are big into personal and spirtual self development. The times they are a changin, but this time its all of us changing, not a small percentage of students and the young of the west.

No for all the stress and turmoil of our increasingly changeing world, we are going to see lots of postive things bursting forth now, and eventualy they will larglly overwhelm. Good always trimpuhs, come on guys, you only have to look at the last time around, 39 - 45, the negative forces got a good kick up the arss in the end. It will happen again, but i think (hopefuly) there wont be quite the same amount of bloodsheed this time around.

Its so difficult to look into an esoteric crystal ball, i dont think anyone knows for sure, I feel quite strongly 2012 is more than anthing going to be a big START of lots of change, much of the western astrology confirms this for me, though there is quite a build up to 2012 also.

I feel it will be a big psychological/spirtual change for many, more an internal change than anythingelse, and the results of that will come later rather than at the time. There are huge changes going to accelerate over the next 50 years in the 3D world (check out my post on Hoopes logo thread for what i mean) and they will bring with it huge changes in culture and ways of being.



I think some of you in America are feeling quite fearful/negative/anticipating destruction because you are starting now a long 6-7 year cycle of pluto transits against America's chart. 3 consecutive major Pluto transits, venus, jupiter and your sun. Pltuo is death and rebirth, descrution and renewal. So in some ways america is going to go through someting of a collapose this next 6-7 years, but what some of you are missing is it will also and most definatly go through a re-birth and renewal.

Nothing re-news like Pluto, its energy is the most intense and powerful of all.

ha ha Mordana, i dont know maybe the pyramids is a good a spot as any, after all thats where a lot of this all began didnt it, and if you look at the land mass of the earth laid out flat, egypt is pretty close to the centre.

I also belive the Great Pyramids have some kind of unique configuration with the star systems Orieon and Sirus and maybe even extra terristrial intellgence. Alister Crowly for one is said to have communicated with extra terristial intelligence there.

I doubt were ALL of us going to end up in smoke, maybe some but not all by a long shot. I know you have some pretty mad polticians over your way Travis and Mia, but i just dont think the rest of the world is going to let the Republicans party (or even Obama for that matter who knows) blow us all up ! If it starts to get that bad re Iran/Isreal/ pakistan/India, korea, your going to see both Europe and Japan to mention just a few push for calm and sense much more - though currently i leave the UK out of Europe, we are actuly geting almost as bad as you lot ! I dont know what Bush done to Blair when the met up first time, but it certainly seemed to affect him with some strange kind of insanity. Germany and France were extremely unhappy at what happend in Iraq, that attitude will be much much more widespread second time around.

So i dont rate the chances of a complete global destructive war too high at all. I belive in the next 5-15 years we are going to come to our senses collectivly about the enviorment. The signs are there already. Jeffry sachs has formulated an estimate of only around 1% global GDP over a sustained period to fix this. ANd there is a big push amongst a growing group of people for fairer wealth distrubution. When America goes through its big transformation the next 7 years i think it will stop dragging its feet over that, and teh movement in Europe for it too will accelerate. Most of the developed worlds incomes are growing at around 2% anualy anyway, so we as the future moves forward these problems become increasingly easy to solve if we have the right mind set.

I belive eventualy we will find the right mind set. A new and postive global indentity, instead of a national identity, will be one component of this. Many people in the 16 - 26 year old age bracket are already developing this kind of indentity now, especialy in Europe and the developed Far east.

We have already seen a growing mass movment for increased spirtuality, the 60's movment for spirtual self development has grown from a percived bunch of "mad hippies" on the fringe, to now books like Celestine prohecy selling many millions world wide and Deepak Chopra becoming an almost household name. I know people with very "square" jobs who are big into personal and spirtual self development. The times they are a changin, but this time its all of us changing, not a small percentage of students and the young of the west.

No for all the stress and turmoil of our increasingly changeing world, we are going to see lots of postive things bursting forth now, and eventualy they will larglly overwhelm. Good always trimpuhs, come on guys, you only have to look at the last time around, 39 - 45, the negative forces got a good kick up the arss in the end. It will happen again, but i think (hopefuly) there wont be quite the same amount of bloodsheed this time around.

Its so difficult to look into an esoteric crystal ball, i dont think anyone knows for sure, I feel quite strongly 2012 is more than anthing going to be a big START of lots of change, much of the western astrology confirms this for me, though there is quite a build up to 2012 also.

I feel it will be a big psychological/spirtual change for many, more an internal change than anythingelse, and the results of that will come later rather than at the time. There are huge changes going to accelerate over the next 50 years in the 3D world (check out my post on Hoopes logo thread for what i mean) and they will bring with it huge changes in culture and ways of being.


I think some of you in America are feeling quite fearful/negative/anticipating destruction because you are starting now a long 6-7 year cycle of pluto transits against America's chart. 3 consecutive major Pluto transits, venus, jupiter and your sun. Pltuo is death and rebirth, descrution and renewal. So in some ways america is going to go through someting of a collapose this next 6-7 years, but what some of you are missing is it will also and most definatly go through a re-birth and renewal.

Nothing re-news like Pluto, its energy is the most intense and powerful of all.

oh shite, i just re-read this Will...cute!

Patric, dude, you're already there. You are probably the head of the tribe for all I know...
Take me in, bro !

That's completely understandable Alli...You know if Patric throws me a ladder and Elo gives me a big push,
I'll just climb up...and come and greet you. There's no need to bend.

I'll make sure we meet up in a beautiful lush environment with plenty of organic shrubs for
you!

Hey Solstice Alli, the view must be pretty good from up there. )))))

Catch you around these islands of hope~

M.

The party beyond the SPACE-TIME continuum is approaching. I'll be there friends.

Not to say it won't integrate the space-time-physicality, but it will still be beyond it.

Burning Man or not, see you out of time!

" I got you babe! "

...how does it go?

I got you to pay the rent
I got you to go dance so bent
I got you to kiss good-night
I got you to hold me tight...

2012 style of course ~

2012 has not already happened. when it does, you will know it. how? there will be less than half the population left...maybe less. that's my gut.