Dan Burisch and 2012

topic posted Thu, January 26, 2006 - 10:17 PM by  Jason
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I've been doing a bunch of research on this guy and what I'm finding is pretty startling!

Let's just say it really involves 2012 in a big time way!

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series of such disclosures required by the Tau-9 Treaty Conference For The Preservation of Humanity and that other disclosures will follow.

This appears to be the first official (that is, legal) document allowed by the elusive organization known as Majestic-12 (MJ-12). This group was commissioned by President Harry Truman as a prelude to the passage of the National Security Act of 1947. This is the same Act that saw the creation of the Department of Defense and the CIA, not to mention other agencies and regulations. The catalyst for Truman was the crash at Roswell in that year of an extraterrestrial craft that is being denied to this day by the bulk of the employees and occupants of the Pentagon, the White House, the Congress and the media. A few years later President Eisenhower and a delegation from MJ-12 and other key members of the power elite at that time met with representatives of a group of aliens from Zeta Reticuli and so began a series of treaties with them. The current Tau-9 Treaty is but the latest in the series, which are renewed every nine years on average.

Dr Burisch, who as one of the top negotiators for MJ-12 of this treaty, also admits to working on the following projects:

"Project Preserve Destiny", which goes back to before 1960 and which is concerned with efforts to prepare at least some segments of the human population for the cataclysms expected in the 2012 time-frame.

"Project Lotus", which is concerned with developing a model to utilize the miraculous Ganesh Particle to heal everything from earthly ecosystems to the human body, including cancer.

"Project Aquarius", which is a Top Secret project that was started in 1953 and was set up to accumulate as much data as possible about alien life forms and to distribute the collected information to the relevant authorities. This included Dr. Burisch’s work with one EBE, or alien, in helping to find a cure for a neurological degradation suffered by it.

"Project Preserve Mother", which involved the deployment of the Ganesh Particles in the polluted waters of Cabrillo Bay outside Los Angeles, CA in an effort to clean up the ecosystem there.

Dr. Burisch, a highly religious former seminarian as well as decorated war hero, is deeply concerned with the implications of his work, which includes helping to develop an antidote for Gulf War Syndrome despite the rumors that he was an author of such bio-weapons. As he himself states on one of the surveillance tapes leaked to myself, "I went in there to stop a pandemic. And we did…we stopped a pandemic. There were people still injured by the foolish actions of the Committee’s team….the Illuminists’ team within the Committee, anyway. It was a rogue military unit’s action with mycoplasma that we counteracted." At the time of the initial deployment of the Ganesh Particle off the coast of Florida in 2002, an effort to ameliorate the effects of Blackwater (a yearly phenomenon involving algae strangling the marine environment in the Gulf of Mexico), little was known of the effect of this Ganesh Particle in a large-scale application. Unfortunately, the GPs tended to exacerbate the problem, not lessen it. Allegedly dozens of deaths were attributed to flesh-eating bacteria that had been enhanced by the GPs. Again good intentions went astray, and even Dr. Burisch was angry that his discovery had been used without his permission before he had developed sufficient safeguards.


The fact is that Dr. Burisch has been not only present but has participated in work taking place quietly behind the scenes that is alleged to help humanity carry on in a future that will be vastly different than what we can imagine today. Ever since the formation of MJ-12, this organization has worked to arrange funding and distribution of movies, films, television series, specials and even commercials that have brought the message to the public over the past fifty years that not only are we are not alone, there exists the reality that interstellar and time travel does occur, that wormholes or ‘stargates’ do in fact exist, and that there are cataclysmic scenarios that have a basis in historic and scientific fact. Until now, this has only been entertainment, but many efforts underway in the field of research & development have also taken place that are also to help prepare us for a time of great change. In fact, much of the technology of our computer age comes as a direct result of harvesting the wreckage of Roswell and other crashes to develop the transistor, lasers, silicon computer chips, night-vision, etc. We can either thank or curse MJ-12 for quietly assisting private industry in making this technology useful in our world of today and the one to come as well.


Much of this is now history, and the reader can learn of these things in detail from the vast body of literature contributed by first-hand witnesses and researchers. Yet, for the most part, these researchers seem to be primarily interested in pointing to unexplained phenomenon as a means to generate book sales and other income from speaking engagements, seminars, etc., rather than an honestapproach to "telling the world" of things that may be quite unpleasant to John and Jane Doe but will help prepare them. It could very well be that if the government were to come clean with the public, there would be no ‘mystery’ for these researchers, no future for speculative (and expensive!) books and magazines. No longer would the truth be a commodity they can mine subjectively and at will. For this reason, expect attacks on this story as its implications sink in.


For any reader that may question our experiences, they can take comfort in the fact that the evidence presented here is only in signature form on a General Affidavit and decide for themselves if it is real or not. Any further inquiries regarding the authenticity of this document can be referred to the Secretary of State of Nevada, whose office is entrusted with upholding the laws and regulations governing Affidavits made in its jurisdiction.

www.danburisch.info/b2/analy...world.htm

There's a ton more information which I can prove that this saga has been on going for A long time..... 10 years perhaps.

If you want more let me know.
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Jason
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  • Re: Dan Burisch and 2012

    Fri, January 27, 2006 - 12:38 AM
    more please! :)

    Chronos
    • Re: Dan Burisch and 2012

      Fri, January 27, 2006 - 1:52 AM
      This was posted on usenet in 1999 by BJWolf007 - after some research I found that BJWolf is Marcia Mcdowell a good friend of Dan Burisch and Agent. But what I also found was interesting, there's a book that was published in 1997 called Eagles Disobey which BJ Wold, Dan, and a person named Butch Howell. Now Butch Howell died for some reason on this books release and the book is no longer available on Amazon, but I did some researching and found that YES, Butch Howell did die in 1997:

      Here is the groups.google.com topic from usenet in 1997

      "GOVERNMENT SCIENTIST MEMORIES ERASED !!!!

      All 4 messages in topic - view as tree
      BJWolf007
      Jan 3 1999, 12:00 am show options

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      From: bjwolf...@aol.com (BJWolf007) - Find messages by this author
      Date: 1999/01/03
      Subject: GOVERNMENT SCIENTIST MEMORIES ERASED !!!!
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      I've decided to go forward and tell what has happened. I think that at this
      point it is the only way that I am going to survive. I think also that Dr. Dan
      Burisch might be the target of reprisal, unless I can get this information to
      the public in such a manner that the government will be reluctant to move him
      and screw with his memories again, for fear that people will know what they are
      doing.


      First, Dan and I have worked through the last two years on this book project
      Eagles Disobey: The Case for Inca City, Mars, and subsequently, on Eagles
      Undefeated. I came to care for him deeply during that time, so when he
      disappeared on Nov. 24th, 1998 from his place of employment, and his house
      turned up empty when I went by to check, the very next day, I became deeply
      afraid. He had discussed the fact that the people he used to work for were
      planning to discharge him, and were therefore making certain memory adjustments
      in order to protect classified information that was contained in his memory. He
      went up north during the early part of the month (november 1998) in order to
      have the first part of the process performed.


      December 29th, 1998 I received a FAX from someone identifying themselves as "A
      Friend" with a flight schedule for Dan Burisch, and the arrival time at Las
      Vegas International Airport circled.
      I went to the airport and saw Dan coming up the ramp. I said hello, and he
      looked at me as though he had never seen me before in his life. He veered away
      and attempted to depart the area. I approached him again and showed him a photo
      of the two of us. He agreed to listen to what I had to say, and demanded to
      know just who the hell I was.
      After some discussion, I learned that not only did he fail to remember me, but
      he had no idea he had written Eagles Disobey: The Case for Inca City, Mars. He
      had no idea who Butch Howell was (Butch was his dearest friend - the co-author
      who died in the process of producing the book) nor who Robert Charles was -
      another co-author.
      When I showed him a photo of him standing beside his mother and father, he
      asked me who those people were...he did not know his own parents. He told me
      that he knew who his parents were, and those people were not them.
      What makes this so frightening is the fact that I know Doty and John
      personally, and have for a while now..... I know that there is something
      seriously wrong here.
      It should be noted here that shortly after Dan's disappearance, I received two
      letters in the mail, post marked Roswell NM, which allegedly contained his
      signature. When I showed these to Dan, he flatly denied that it was his
      signature, and said he did not know anything about the letters.


      What's more, Dan is absolutely convinced that he never had a Ph.D in
      microbiology eventhough I produced evidence of that in the form of Who's Who in
      Science and Engineering, Who's Who in the West Etc....


      Dan has had his memories altered - significantly altered. He was moved to
      Mississippi, and put in a highly placed business position. I would prefer not
      to say where he is actually working because it could damage his livelihood. If
      anyone wishes to talk to him and ascertain the truth of these statements, I
      would be glad to put you in quiet contact with him. This whole thing could get
      him fired.


      Dan even volunteered to allow me to polygraph him, to prove that he is not
      lying when he says he knows nothing about these aspects of his past.


      Any agency that goes to the time, effort and expense of doing something this
      incredible - has got to be pretty damned upset that I have told him about what
      has happened, and shown him documentary evidence of his past.


      I am preparing more information to follow - including excerpts from videotaped
      discussions ostensibly made during a debriefing concerning the initial phases
      of the project which led up to the EBE Briefing Document (Q-94-109A). This tape
      came into my possession from an anonymous source, much like the FAX which
      directed me to the correct airline and gave me his arrival time on Dec. 30th.


      Please read this, and redirect it to as many lists, and individuals as
      possible. I am very afraid that I am in danger as a result of my contact with
      Dan, and the fact that I have upset their carefully laid plans.


      If the person who sent me the FAX or the videotape is reading this - please
      contact me immediately.


      B.J. Wolf
      "

      B.J. Wolf

      The research for Butch Howell, here is what I found:

      www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho...932.html

      Albert "Butch" Howell, 51, died Sunday.
      An Army veteran of the Vietnam War, he was born May 24, 1946, in Syracuse, N.Y., and was a security supervisor in a hotel-casino and a 12-year resident of Las Vegas.
      He is survived by his wife, Barbara; and son, Joey Ahmed, both of Las Vegas; mother, Frances Young of Wichita, Kan.; and sisters, Sharon McCarty of Owensville, Mo., and Robin Young and Debbie Allen, both of Wichita.
      Memorial services will be at 7 p.m. Thursday in Davis Funeral Home.

      you should read the 2012 stuff in the link I posted below
      • Re: Dan Burisch and 2012

        Fri, January 27, 2006 - 2:55 PM
        Very, very interesting. . .
        • Re: Dan Burisch and 2012

          Fri, January 27, 2006 - 7:50 PM
          I know this is a long post, but there is certainly more detail here. Especially on Sacred Geometry - Below is a chat trancript that was captured between Dan Burisch and others some using code names. The personality seems real and genuine: Read

          The first secret is this name- xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
          crackajack : ok

          xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx : The second secret is anything that you can capture having to do with this IP address.

          crackajack : How can i trust you?

          xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx : The third secret is that I am close to Dan. You will in a minute.

          crackajack : Try to send me a file, I will then get ip

          xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx : You can trust me because I bring you nothing but the following. I didn't say I WANTED to give it away! icon_smile.gif

          crackajack : go on

          xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx : When you have visual sir, write a message.

          crackajack : ok

          crackajack : Hello Dan

          dr dan burisch : J?

          dr dan burisch : Or is it you again?

          dr dan burisch : YOU?

          crackajack : Crackajack from GLP public group.

          crackajack : Love that coffee...lol

          dr dan burisch : sb

          dr dan burisch : standby

          crackajack : ok

          dr dan burisch : Do you have a cam image of me?

          crackajack : yes I do

          dr dan burisch : Great, in my robe...what can I do for you sir?

          dr dan burisch : I assume sir, if not my apologies.

          crackajack : What are your wishes for those who wish to further your cause?

          dr dan burisch : I frankly wasn't aware that you were in tight communications with anyone?

          crackajack : A raven

          dr dan burisch : Is he okay?

          crackajack : I believe so, but may be in danger.

          dr dan burisch : Nothing I can do about that. Well,

          dr dan burisch : I have not changed my position that this information (Lotus, DCTP) is of critical importance to humanity.

          crackajack : understand

          dr dan burisch : Are you aware of my status?

          crackajack : yes

          dr dan burisch : (regarding Lotus?)

          crackajack : model due for completion Dec 04?

          dr dan burisch : Ya, that is about it. I am in the final phases of getting the data sets in order, so that

          dr dan burisch : I am able to set down and do some old fashioned (very old fashioned - over an 8 seconds sound bite- icon_smile.gif) ) writing.

          dr dan burisch : Forgive me if I am delayed - extremely weary.

          crackajack : Are you able to expand on the accoustic test from last week

          crackajack : I understand your tiredness sir

          dr dan burisch : How did you find out about that little ditty? (smiles)

          crackajack : We have ways....(big smile)

          dr dan burisch : Obviously...okay, I can accept that....

          dr dan burisch : The test was moderately successful, but didn;t provide sufficient data to declare that a positive data replication result was forthcoming.

          dr dan burisch : I had the....you are aware of where it took place?

          crackajack : ok

          crackajack : yes. frenchmans

          crackajack : the schist?

          dr dan burisch : Yup! I had the microphone attached to the rock, above the schist (earlier age) and ran an exact replication of the acoustic test I did in laboratory. The test, in lab, provided very unusual data, in that it produced two distinct sound segments we termed anomalous.

          crackajack : wow, from afar?

          dr dan burisch : The first was a crackling sound, separated from the background....from.....SOMEWHERE.

          crackajack : ok, go on

          dr dan burisch : That sound...sb...I will get data...

          crackajack : ok

          dr dan burisch : The "crackling" lasted for a duration of 10.2 seconds and had a acoustic mean of 1500Hz. The second signal was MUCH more strange. It lasted for over 15 seconds and had an acoustic mean of 500Hz. I would be hard pressed to say what it really was, however, I have advanced the unusual proposition that its acoustic quality was a near match for human singing.

          crackajack : In the key of C no doubt:)

          dr dan burisch : Thus far, our acoustic people on both coasts...well...right around there. Near a "C". While I appreciate all gifts of data that we obtain from this project, I sure could have wished for it to be an "F", but...so it goes...

          dr dan burisch : (smiles)

          crackajack : (smiles)

          crackajack : I need to ask a couple of serious q's Dan ok?

          dr dan burisch : As a side note: Sure, in just a moment...

          crackajack : Not that those were not....icon_smile.gif

          crackajack : ok go on please

          dr dan burisch : I am not aware of who has put this through, however, I am grateful for the conversation.

          dr dan burisch : Go ahead, please. (smile)

          dr dan burisch : Got my serious mode going...(big grin)

          crackajack : How is your heart condition? I hear you will not be going through with surgery.. Can you expand on your rationale?

          crackajack : I wish, we all wish, you to be well.

          dr dan burisch : Thanks for the question, I appreciate the concern. The state of the heart disease is thus:

          It is diffuse and spreading throughout the coronary collaterals near the apex of my heart. Thank you, and my "heart"felt prayers go out to everyone as well. The situation is, that the location of the disease makes me a poor candidate for direct intervention (open chest), so there has been a raging debate underway between two sets of cardiologists who have been managing my illness.

          dr dan burisch : One wants to continue me with EECP. However, after nearly a week of treatment, during two successive occasions, I developed such a ravenous migraine that I could not continue. The other however, remains the one with the medication……..-maintenance aggressive physician.

          crackajack : Could the product of your project (ganesh) reverse your condition? Ironically.... Or is it not the time?

          dr dan burisch : I developed such a ravenous migraine that I could not continue. She, however, remains the one AS the medication-maintenance aggressive physician.

          dr dan burisch : My English is going.....(crazy eyes)

          dr dan burisch : (laughs)

          crackajack : (laughs)

          dr dan burisch : I am around so much electricity and so much quartz, if it happens it happens, but I would not be the one to play God.
          One of the doctors is more pro-intervention via cardiac catheterization angioplasty.
          However, many of the areas are too small to balloon.
          So, my status remains medicated. Debate continues.

          dr dan burisch : I have work to do.

          dr dan burisch : (straight face)

          crackajack : Sounds nasty, and why you? sigh... of all people for this to happen to. Humanity needs you my friend, as we all do.

          dr dan burisch : Humanity needs all of us, me no more than the rest. I will show you something though...take a gander at my pills...I am almost due to take this set...sb

          crackajack : ok

          dr dan burisch : Are you on this cam--->

          crackajack : Yes I see you waving

          dr dan burisch : Okay...

          crackajack : Oh, quite a dose...

          dr dan burisch : Twice a day.

          dr dan burisch : I dislike them.

          crackajack : Gee, such a colorful mix.

          dr dan burisch : Oh, ya...pretty colors! (laughs)

          crackajack : Sorry, i understand your predicament.

          crackajack : (smile)

          dr dan burisch : Swallowing is a pain.

          dr dan burisch : Anyway...on to better things...

          crackajack : Dan, from what you know of the timeline, does the work we are doing have a benefit?

          dr dan burisch : Yes.

          crackajack : I mean, are people meant to know, in part anyway, of the truth at this time?

          dr dan burisch : Yes.

          dr dan burisch : If I had been told, by anyone that I consider having the right to say it, that it shouldn't be known, I wouldn't say anything.

          crackajack : Can you envisage speaking of your work, should you be under subpeona?

          dr dan burisch : Well...

          dr dan burisch : If I am under subpoena, and for some reason the subpoena is not "lifted" or made to go away, I can envision responding to any lawful court order.

          crackajack : Understand.

          crackajack : You do need to (must) finish your project, yes?

          dr dan burisch : I will.

          dr dan burisch : At least the model.

          crackajack : So any "out", for talk, would mean relevant to project only, then potentially back "in", for completion?

          dr dan burisch : If I am asked a question, any question, I will respond to it, honestly. The nature of the question will determine the nature of the honest response. However, in either case, honesty will prevail.

          crackajack : "Domestic Tranquility" probably cannot be affected at this yime, as I understand this is the way we must move forward

          dr dan burisch : That's funny! (laughs)

          dr dan burisch : That was assured a day ago!

          crackajack : I mean, no massive shocks for the Joe Citizens..(smiles)

          dr dan burisch : Mars Spirit goes...nite nite!

          crackajack : yes, can you tell me more on that?

          dr dan burisch : Let me posit a scenario for you:

          dr dan burisch : Joe Citizen sets in front of his television screen (plasma- of course, so he can really see his team win!), and a newsbreak comes over. (Mind you, not the kind that happens every five minutes now about Michael Jackson)

          dr dan burisch : BUT A REAL ONE!

          dr dan burisch : They say that the international expedition has arrived at the famed...oh... Face at Cydonia (not giving undue credence to Inca City! (laughs) , The astronaut approaches and

          crackajack : (laughs)

          dr dan burisch : "she" (wink) - (can I be politically correct or what?)(smile) announces it an artificial structure! Everyone goes wild!!!!!!!!!! Then... She reads the sign, hanging above the dusty doorway:

          "HUMANITY HAS FOUND IT'S ARK HERE, IN THE RED SANDS OF THE NEW EARTH, SO THAT WE MAY SURVIVE IN PEACE, DATED 5412 AD"

          dr dan burisch : Joe Citizen loses his bearing.

          crackajack : Oh the Red Sands yes...

          dr dan burisch : The only spin I would place on it, is that the sign should be signed- Adam (red clay).

          dr dan burisch : sb I am getting java.

          crackajack : Nice touch (smile)

          crackajack : ok

          dr dan burisch : Okay then.

          dr dan burisch : I would much rather see this-

          dr dan burisch : We awake on the morning of January 1, 2013 (or thereabout) and hear that the mission to Mars is a go. The astronauts land and they find what they find (but the signs are quietly taken down and stored in a box that reads: "The history that was and yet is not- We survived, joined as One people").

          crackajack : And this is a possibilty, from what you understand?

          dr dan burisch : SB I have BJ on the line.

          crackajack : ok

          dr dan burisch : She's watching me! Oh! (smiles) sb further for a moment.

          crackajack : ok

          dr dan burisch : She's bulling with me over an image...I'll be right back.

          crackajack : ok fine

          dr dan burisch : Okay...she is good.

          crackajack : Great. Does she know I am here?

          dr dan burisch : No.

          crackajack : ok

          dr dan burisch : She knows I am on with someone, but may assume whatever.

          dr dan burisch : Hey, do you know how Bill Hamilton is doing?

          crackajack : Bill is fine, happy for us to be assisting I hope.

          crackajack : Your birthday is soon.

          dr dan burisch : I will be, God willing, turning 40.

          dr dan burisch : Feels like 60. (laughs)

          crackajack : (laughs) No wonder.....

          dr dan burisch : At least I will be free to read certain Hebrew texts then.

          crackajack : btw Dondep says thank you. I have him on separate conference

          dr dan burisch : Okay. tell him Hi! for me. Advise him that his CD arrived.

          crackajack : Oh fantastic (smiles)

          dr dan burisch : sb I have to take a rr break.

          crackajack : sure.

          dr dan burisch : Please tell him thank you.

          dr dan burisch : (smiles)

          dr dan burisch : It's just stoner enough for me to like! (laughs)

          dr dan burisch : The 9th Key was a nice touch too!

          dr dan burisch : I am on a direct path here. Why not try bringing me into a conf with Don? Can that be done?

          crackajack : sure can hold

          dr dan burisch : Let's see if it works?

          dr dan burisch : (Always pushing...(laughs) )

          crackajack : Don will send invite Dan ok

          dr dan burisch : Whomever did this - put this through please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


          crackajack : Dan is coming in/ Ready??

          dondep : (smile)

          pagemarker : i dont know...

          dondep : YES!~

          crackajack : Don, invite xxxxxxxxxxx

          pagemarker : see... messengers...???

          dondep : okay, sent invite

          Yahoo! Messenger : dr dan burisch has joined the conference.

          dr dan burisch : HELLO???????

          dondep : HELLO DAN!

          pagemarker : OH MY GOD!!!

          pagemarker : dan????

          dondep : Great to see you!

          dr dan burisch : Hey! Thanks for the CD!

          dr dan burisch : This is he.

          pagemarker : wow....!!!

          crackajack : Oh you are here already

          pagemarker : wow... cracka... great job...!

          dr dan burisch : (or what's left of him)

          dondep : Dan, asked for cam view,

          dondep : alRIGHT!

          dr dan burisch : I said yes.

          pagemarker : dan, we love you....

          dondep : He knows we do!

          dr dan burisch : I love you too!

          pagemarker : wow... i dont believe this...!!!

          dondep : (we will get a pic of you here now!)

          dr dan burisch : Look........

          dr dan burisch : I am in my robe here...

          pagemarker : Dan, you have some good ravens left...

          dondep : Dan, no problems then from mysterious vans etc? I take the risk aynway

          pagemarker : oh my God...!!!

          dr dan burisch : I know that there are people out there doing things.

          dondep : Dan, did you get my present?

          dr dan burisch : I got your CD and thank you Soooooooooo much!

          pagemarker : Dr Dan, the toast of the town...!

          dondep : you're welcome!

          crackajack : Can you all see Dan?

          pagemarker : Dr Dan, different quartz from different times, different Ganesh??

          dr dan burisch : Love the serpents (on the jewel case).

          dondep : you looked angry at your nomination picture

          dondep : You NOTICED!

          dr dan burisch : I hope so.........ref quartz.

          dr dan burisch : God I hope so........

          crackajack : Guys, slow down, and keep this structured ok

          dr dan burisch : This is great!

          pagemarker : Dan, time differentiated multiplexing...!!

          dondep : Relax, cracka, we're just settling down now!

          crackajack :

          dr dan burisch : Perhaps JoG.

          dr dan burisch : I am hoping that the resonance is different, such that

          pagemarker : Dan, timelines as offsetting spiritual derivatives...

          dr dan burisch : the DNA that is apparently transiting the void is variant (over the strata).

          pagemarker : Dan... hence the acoustics...?

          pagemarker : the Great Unconformity... have you gapped it yet??

          dr dan burisch : No....well...maybe yes!

          pagemarker : YESQQ

          pagemarker : lol...

          pagemarker : wow... real scientist here... i dont believe this...!

          crackajack : Go ahead Dan, one piece at a time

          dr dan burisch : The acoustics were investigated, to this point, for the purpose of attempting

          dondep : go on...

          dr dan burisch : to access the point from whence the GP's, viruses, and class C's (selkies) appear to originate.

          dr dan burisch : The tones (thus far we have picked up a complex mixture, near 500Hz) may be the key to the information passage, it is possible...for this reason:

          crackajack : (If you feel we covered anything earlier Dan, say so, and we'll move on. I'm "conscious" of "time")

          dondep : Dan, can we get a longer piece of video of the GP does it's thing? It would go a long way.

          dr dan burisch : So am I, cracka...conscious of time..so am I.

          dondep : hah!~

          pagemarker : Dan, could you not coordinate that by approximate age of the rock?

          dr dan burisch : I have no way of getting that to you.

          dr dan burisch : Back to the tone thing...

          crackajack : go on

          dr dan burisch : Look at the Buckminster Fuller - like platonic solid formations that can be attributed to high/low pressure areas within a fluid. Vibrate the fluid at a certain rate, one platonic solid, vibrate at another, another solid shows.

          dr dan burisch : This movement from one solid to another, may give us important information as to how the Universal Intelligence modulates itself into our Universe and

          dr dan burisch : I can look up a link for you- sb

          crackajack : ok

          pagemarker : Dan, please proceed...

          dr dan burisch : ascension2000.com/04.10.03.htm

          dr dan burisch : Go to figure 5.

          crackajack : ok going there now

          dondep : with you now

          crackajack : Figure 5 - Visible geometric arrangement of fine particles within vibrating droplet of water. (Jenny)

          dr dan burisch :This gives a direct reference to the comment, but there is much more that can be researched.

          dr dan burisch : That's it.

          crackajack : Wonderful

          dr dan burisch : I have to raise the temp in here- sb

          pagemarker : figure 5.... the sacred geometry...

          dr dan burisch : chilly!

          dr dan burisch : Yes.

          dondep : You're in the desert!

          dr dan burisch : Chilly desert

          crackajack : Always at night

          dondep :

          dr dan burisch : Well...not exactly always...I can remember a time

          dr dan burisch : when I had been placed working security at the Sahara Hotel...

          pagemarker : so you end up with differentiations of solids at different points of geologic time

          dr dan burisch : I was asked to assist guests at the Hotel entrance.

          dondep : go on Dan...

          dr dan burisch : It was 1991.

          pagemarker : how the Universal Intelligence modulates itself

          dr dan burisch : At 2330 it was so hot (over 90 degrees) and they were still building the Tangiers Towers. The dust was sticking to me.

          dr dan burisch : Anyway..........

          dondep : what were you assisting them with?

          dr dan burisch : In the business, we say....their needs.

          dr dan burisch : (laughs)

          crackajack : (laughs)

          dondep : (laughs)

          dr dan burisch : Ya...

          pagemarker : okay ....

          dr dan burisch : I have no idea how God modulates information.

          dr dan burisch : What we hope to find

          pagemarker : Dr Dan... he does it through thought!!!

          pagemarker : we know the alien influence is here....

          dr dan burisch : I would think through love, but perhaps.

          pagemarker : yes, love...

          dr dan burisch : perhaps

          crackajack : Good answer

          crackajack : both

          dr dan burisch : alien influence, meaning?

          pagemarker : meaning others need our help...

          dondep : but perhaps, what Dan?

          pagemarker : meaning they too have a soul...

          crackajack : Depends on the type of "help"

          dr dan burisch : Folks, are we aware, that anything "alien" is in this conference?

          dr dan burisch : You have my attention.

          dondep : (we are all so eager and happy to see you...forgive our exuberrance)

          dondep : no, really?

          crackajack : Go on

          pagemarker : i am not to my knowledge...

          dondep : yes, go on...

          dr dan burisch : pagemarker: we know the alien influence is here....

          crackajack : Go on Dan

          pagemarker : i can handle it... but Si204 is not of us

          pagemarker : help is help...

          dr dan burisch : Look, I have certain REAL sensitivities regarding the presence of an alien intell. If anyone is declaring themselves such.....I have to leave.

          pagemarker : please proceed Dr Dan

          dondep : no, Brian is just being Brian, Dan

          crackajack : Nobody here is alien Dan I guarantee you that.

          dondep : He is really a good character. Obtuse references.

          dr dan burisch : Okay..

          dr dan burisch : Thank you.

          dr dan burisch : Obtuse is fine.

          dondep : proceed; you're amongst friends here

          dr dan burisch : Okay...

          dr dan burisch : Where were we?

          crackajack : Subhect change please?

          dondep : craacka? Do you have where we were before Brian said that?

          pagemarker : modulation of Universal Intelligence....?

          dondep : actually, Dan was telling us about the Towers that time

          dr dan burisch : Acoustics

          dondep : when he was helping guests

          crackajack : ok yes

          dr dan burisch : Don, you are okay. (smile)

          dondep : thanks Dan! love to see that smile!

          dr dan burisch : In any case...the desert is not always cold at night.
          I suspect that the sounds that come over the daat to this Universe carry real purpose.

          dondep : the sounds?

          dondep : tones? you mean?

          dr dan burisch : I hope that one purpose is to make changes to the structure and functional attributes

          dr dan burisch : No, these are not pure tones.

          dr dan burisch : They carry voice signature.

          dondep : signature of what?

          dr dan burisch : Similarity to a human voice.

          dr dan burisch : This issue is being debated at the moment and I have to declare something here. as a scientist, that we need further data sets to make a definitive determination.
          So far, I am not near satisfied with the data set.

          crackajack : (Dan, I am about to invite a KIWI friend from our group. Is that ok??)

          dr dan burisch : It is VERY intriguing, but that is all I can really say at this moment.

          pagemarker : Dr Dan... it is the octave of the human voice you seek

          pagemarker : and depends on the voice...

          dondep : the fact that there are heavenly voices, transmitting energy that will help us to change the functional attributes? (Cracka, invite her in!)

          pagemarker : whoa... Dr Dan you are right..

          Yahoo! Messenger : kiwi has joined the conference.

          dr dan burisch : I hope that is the case.

          dr dan burisch : It would be nice.

          kiwi : Hi team

          dondep : Hey Sue! Dan is on the webcam too, you can see his coffee cup right now!

          kiwi : Oh goodness - Hello Dan!

          dr dan burisch : What's up with the coffee cup????????

          dr dan burisch : Hello.

          dondep : (Dan, really, what coffee is IT???)

          dr dan burisch : Hot (laughs)

          crackajack : (laughs)

          dondep : what's your fave?!?

          pagemarker : Dr Dan, the frequency is the substance of that portrayed?

          dr dan burisch : Hell, I don't know...sb I will find out.

          dondep : (no product endorsements) (just for friend's recommendations)

          dondep : (Sue, do you have Dan on webcam yet? As him)

          dondep : NO!

          dondep : Maxwell House?!?!?

          crackajack : Good ol' Maxwell house. Fine choice

          kiwi : not sure how to work webcam - will have a try ok?

          dr dan burisch : That is what was bought.

          dondep : No wonder you have to drink so much!

          dr dan burisch : My fave is....sb

          crackajack : You do have a big budget. (smile)

          pagemarker : Tasters Choice Dan???

          dondep : (At least Taster's Choice...)

          pagemarker : lol

          dr dan burisch : I have a dessert coffee...You will loove this...if you know anything about a certain subject...we'll see.

          kiwi : (no go on the webcam - darn!!)

          dondep : got it, Dan!

          dondep : Snapped it!

          dr dan burisch : Got the joke?

          crackajack : Well done Don

          dondep : (He put up the Chocolate Mint stuff!)

          dr dan burisch : Did you get the product manufacturer?

          dondep : Chocolate Mint? Hidden message, Dan??

          dr dan burisch : Above that.................look..................

          crackajack : Oh no.....(laughs)

          crackajack : Our favorite NIDS weirdo (laughs)

          dondep : YES!

          dondep : Bigelow! (laughs)

          dr dan burisch : Oh yesssssss....they are good for something. (laughs)

          dondep : (laughs)

          dr dan burisch : (laughs)

          crackajack : What a classic

          dondep : LOL!!! (

          dr dan burisch : That is by request from me.

          crackajack : Coincidences never end do they

          dondep : They will get a real kick out of that!

          dondep : That will be in the press kit, Dan

          dr dan burisch : Good, let them know they can regard me as a supporter!

          dr dan burisch : (laughs)

          crackajack : Tell us more of this NIDS if you care Dan

          dr dan burisch : Kit or kit? (laughs)

          crackajack : Press KIT (laughs)

          dondep : too much!

          dr dan burisch : Good folks.

          crackajack : Great to see you laughing Dan

          dr dan burisch : It's like NASA

          dondep : got a pic with the laugh!

          dr dan burisch : Most of the people are really good, honest, determined, and hardworking scientists and engineers.

          dondep : go on, NASA....

          dr dan burisch : So it goes with NIDS...

          dondep : just the corrupt ones at the top, that twist everything.....

          dr dan burisch : Whenever you have that much money at the disposal (no matter how close to the bone (cattle bone that is) they say they are cutting it)...

          dr dan burisch : The agendas of the powerful creep in and take control of events at their will.

          kiwi : why are they trying to link BSE and mutilaitons Dan?

          dr dan burisch : Good q. sb

          dondep : (Dan, Kiwi is our specialist in human/bovine issues)

          dr dan burisch : The only thing that comes to mind is that perhaps they are positing some kind of conspiracy?

          dr dan burisch : That Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy could be

          dr dan burisch : in some way being reacted against by a group of radicals determined to
          disrupt the cattle industry???? I don't know about that.

          dr dan burisch : I know why cattle are being mutilated.

          dondep : go on...was BSE and CJD constructed?

          kiwi : the rogue Jrods?

          dr dan burisch : Yes.

          dr dan burisch : to the JRods q.

          dondep : really? for the enzymes?

          kiwi : require what exactly?

          dr dan burisch : As for BSE and the Human form, CJD, they are prions. I suspect that it is of a natural occurrence.

          dr dan burisch : No, as part of a longitudinal study of genetic drift.

          kiwi : yes, but not linked to mutilation or the UK would have had them there.

          dr dan burisch : It involves a long term study of transpositional elements.

          dr dan burisch : Define, "them" ?????//

          dondep : the J-rods conducted a long-term study of genetic drift re cows??

          kiwi : so do you think all mammals maybe genetically drifting then?

          dr dan burisch : That goes to this monstrosity.

          dr dan burisch : All 1433 pages of it.

          dondep : snapped a pic of it, Dan.

          dondep : Stephen Gould.

          kiwi : them - mutilations, there have been none in the UK. Sorry - monstrosity is what?

          dr dan burisch : Yes, Dr. Punctuated Equilibrium.

          dondep : "The Structure of Evolutionary Theory"

          dr dan burisch : The size of the book...

          pagemarker : evolution on what time scale....??

          dondep : Dan your camera went black...what happened?

          dr dan burisch : I am here.

          dr dan burisch : ?

          dondep : yes, cam is blacked out

          crackajack : (lost the cam xxxxxxxxxx, waiting for reinstatement)

          dondep : says "stopped"

          dr dan burisch : Whomever has arranged this...help?

          pagemarker : it is Dr Dan webcam or not...

          crackajack : It's ok, we can continue

          crackajack : YAY he's back

          dr dan burisch : Good.

          dr dan burisch : The question I would ask is whether we would posit this discussion from the point of view of macroevolutionary theory, kinds, or juttas?

          pagemarker : the macro is the micro...

          dr dan burisch : No.

          pagemarker : depending on scale

          dr dan burisch : Well...

          crackajack : As above, so below

          kiwi : Sorry you have gone over my head there Dan

          dr dan burisch : Do I think that the data set supports

          dr dan burisch : the emergence of one.......

          dondep : no pics coming yet tho here.

          dr dan burisch : sb

          crackajack : k

          pagemarker: DCTP is where its at, and so little info.. how far out??

          dondep: okay, back

          Dr dan burisch: Whilst I agree that microevolution...as defined under NeoDarwinian..

          dondep: (sorry, Dan. hi-tech probs)

          pagemarker: Neo Darwinism is out... forget it...

          pagemarker: other viruses hit... face reality...

          Dr dan burisch: Thanks. Agreed, to a point.

          Dr dan burisch: Take a look Don.

          dondep: Great. got it.

          dondep: For Posterity. IN YOUR OWN WRITING!

          Dr dan burisch: Yes, it is/

          Dr dan burisch: I just wrote it.

          Dr dan burisch: All my reports are covered in dove sheets. I had one available..

          pagemarker: life was metamorphosed by other viruses in the DNA like the Vishnu Schist

          Dr dan burisch: Yes, I believe so.

          pagemarker: come on Dr Dan, we do read your writings...

          dondep: BriaN!

          Dr dan burisch: Okay...

          Dr dan burisch: What exactly are we negotiating?

          pagemarker: it is where we get our ideas too...

          pagemarker: negotiating DNA recombinating with outside virus

          dondep: What question were you answering, Dan?

          Dr dan burisch: Do, we get our ideas from some sort of distantly connected information stream that once originated in viral components?

          pagemarker: Don, darwin has us eating our butts....

          Dr dan burisch: Is that what you are asking?

          pagemarker: Dr Dan said forget it... and he found another source within a Vishnu Schist

          Dr dan burisch: Okay...let me explain....

          dondep: go on...

          dr dan burisch : If we have a source that continuously modifies the varieties of life, the rich variety that we see today (and in the fossil record) a source that is different than a self contained
          set of drifts, mutations, radiations, environmental pressures, etc...a source that can directly construct such changes (favorable mutations, what have you), then we have a cut in the Darwinian thought stream that will remove its preeminence from the stage.

          pagemarker : exactly....

          dr dan burisch : I believe, thus far, from the existing data set in the Lotus Project (and from other sources) that we have indeed justified the tenets of many



          dr dan burisch : philosophical approaches, that have spanned the ages, and have been rejected by Western thought and argument, due to arrogance.
          It seems that the sages, were not as stupid as they must be now regarded by those who would neglect to place a Universal Intelligence into the physics of this...whatever it is, we are in.

          pagemarker : Dr Dan, the Vishnu Schist, the pre-Cambrian shield, the Himalayan mountains

          dondep : brian, hold on please...

          dr dan burisch : We can then ask, from whence do these....all physical components of this Universe, yes........progenitors of life come?
          An ever growing data set has shown the emergence of fully encapsulated (and some naked) viruses from a singular point (from our limited and unique perspective) of light.
          It is from those points of light, that we have termed the Shiva Portals, we have (with limited confidence at this time, due to the aforementioned data sets), recorded the acoustic data.

          pagemarker : oh wow..!!

          dr dan burisch : The relationship between the acoustic data and these particles remains
          unknown (as we have no empirical evidence as to its (the sounds') particular affect on the particles.
          We have recorded (and I understand you are in possession of) these portals.

          dondep : the sound files?

          dr dan burisch : We have recently finished a mass test of a very.....sb

          dondep : from the stargate? the night of the 'Bacon Bits'?

          crackajack : (sb, just grabbing a Bigelow)

          dondep : (laughs)

          kiwi : (laughs)

          dr dan burisch : No, to be very honest, the glass on the hutch to my far left just vibrated loudly.

          crackajack : Whoa

          dr dan burisch : I thought I was going to have a ...visitor.

          dr dan burisch : Moving on......

          crackajack : It is time maybe?

          pagemarker : you have your angel Dr Dan

          crackajack : Destiny is here

          dr dan burisch : We all have our angels.

          dr dan burisch : Anyway...

          crackajack : go on

          dondep : (Before you leave, if it happens, please let me know if there is an updated Report on Lotus since last March, that we can get a copy of.) We have that disc.

          dr dan burisch : The stargate and the Bacon Bits....(hey, Bacon Bits got around. (laughs)

          dondep : yep! your term I understand?!?

          pagemarker : Dr Dan, acoustics and wave particle formation??? can you bridge it coherently?

          dr dan burisch: It's not like I can send you an email newsletter.

          crackajack : Sure did

          pagemarker : lmao... bacon bits....

          dondep : true, but is there an updated report that has the latest advances?

          dr dan burisch : Yes: JoG

          dr dan burisch : And I can tell you how...

          dr dan burisch : During the process...

          dr dan burisch : A variety of Class C particle is formed. We named them Selkies.

          dondep : class of GPs?

          dondep : (didn't know there were different classes of GPs)

          dr dan burisch : That variety of particle never keeps its shape. No, I named the Ganesh Particle after the name Ganesh, from Ganesha, meaning remover of obtacles.
          It passes from one point in space to another to effect change, therefore a remover of the obstacle of distance (time) in this Universe. These Class C particles are as unique as the Ganesh Particle.

          dondep : GPs remove obstacles of Time?>???

          dr dan burisch : Maybe more.

          dr dan burisch : Look into relativity Don...distance = time.

          dondep : okay. will study up. go on...

          pagemarker : ah but Dr Dan, these Class C must have a frequency... the 500 mg hz you mentioned

          dr dan burisch : These "Selkies", we are coming to see, function as directors of the electromagnetic stream, from the Shiva Portal (place of entrance into this Universe) to the target that will ultimately be changed by the actions of the Ganesh Particle.

          dr dan burisch : That I do not know.

          dr dan burisch : The important thing about these "selkies" is that

          pagemarker : and the event horizon... ?? can you determine that at all....?

          dr dan burisch : they are

          dr dan burisch : The Shiva Portals?

          dr dan burisch : You have some images, I am made to understand.

          pagemarker : the event horizon at which energy to heal is released.....?

          crackajack : yes we do

          dr dan burisch : What I have seen is there...a point of light.

          dondep : the recent ones, Dan? From the other day?

          pagemarker : is this conducive to string theory....??

          dr dan burisch : These points are extremely small, fractions of micrometers.

          crackajack : We have the dodec image

          dondep : lol!

          pagemarker : yes Dr Dan, very small...

          crackajack : Also the shiva portal images

          dr dan burisch : While I am not a physicist, I do believe that the acoustic production of platonic solids may relate. I think it is more directly appropriate to site brane theory.

          dr dan burisch : You have a dodec image?

          dr dan burisch : Which?

          dondep : yes, from the other day

          pagemarker : Dr Dan, you are over my head big time now i am sorry...

          crackajack : From the test

          dondep : should we send it back to you thru here, Dan?

          dr dan burisch : Great...then you feel like me!

          dondep : I can actually send it through this; you can send to us through this too

          pagemarker : Dr Dan... you are brilliant and ever learning too...

          dr dan burisch : I have no idea...let me try...

          dondep : okay, sb

          dr dan burisch : Ever learning yes.

          dr dan burisch : sb, let me try.

          dr dan burisch : Whomever facilitated this- game?

          xxxxxxxxxx : y

          xxxxxxxxxx : Okay then.

          dondep : okay, accept the request dan

          dr dan burisch : I did, it says unable to receive..behind a firewall.

          dr dan burisch : Let me try to send.

          dondep : okay, it was too big for direct; sent now. it should send you a window to see the file

          crackajack : Oh that again......

          dondep : that's even better!

          dr dan burisch : Hmmm pick a pretty one...sb]

          dondep : dan, you're grimacing!

          dondep : oh, here it is...

          dr dan burisch : You have something pretty?

          dondep: it's downloading now.....a .png file?

          dr dan burisch: Yes.

          dr dan burisch: Yours is too.

          dondep: is that an image file? strange....

          dr dan burisch: Free exchange of thought- now I am scared!

          dr dan burisch: Shall I change it to a jpeg?

          pagemarker: Dr Dan... we are here for you...

          dondep: not used to it, Im sure

          dr dan burisch: No.

          dr dan burisch : Can you open that file Don?

          dondep : it's at 5% now, Dan

          dondep : slowest download I've ever seen....

          dondep : must be bery hi-rez?

          dr dan burisch : Should I send you a jpg?

          dr dan burisch : Big file.

          dr dan burisch :Pretty.

          crackajack : probably 33 proxies

          dondep : hi-rez is worth it; at 10% now

          dondep : I will let you all know when received; still downloading. go on...

          pagemarker : we love you out here Dr Dan....

          dondep : jumped to 12%

          dr dan burisch : I love everyone too. I have the file Don...that is a Selkie file.

          dondep : go ahead, Dan. I'm sorry about the 'time' delay (lol!!)

          crackajack : yes Dan

          pagemarker : wow... a selkie... something new again....

          dondep : oh, you got the one i sent you then?

          dr dan burisch : The one I sent you was a result of a production of protocells...Yes, I did.

          crackajack : we got it 2 or 3 days ago

          dr dan burisch : Okay.

          kiwi : (just adore that name "selkie")

          dr dan burisch : It is an ancient name for floating things.

          dondep : If we had a video clip, clear, that showed the GPs clearly at work. So, if possible, if we can chat before the big Moment, or maybe your birthday

          kiwi : very apt

          dr dan burisch : These protocells were produced from denatured protein and GP's.

          dondep : the ones coming over right now?

          dr dan burisch : All video is accessed from a storage node. I have to request what I produce.

          dr dan burisch : Yes.

          dondep : jeez! Your own work, too!

          pagemarker : i need more time on the acoustics and the wave.. next time Dr Dan...

          dr dan burisch : You will notice something...a couple of things really.

          dr dan burisch : That's the way it is.

          dondep : go on...

          dr dan burisch : The overall structure of this grouping of protocells is nearly exact to the images I understand you have of the GP protocells.

          dr dan burisch : Secondly-

          dr dan burisch : the protocell in the upper left- it will look like a bump or a small ball.

          dr dan burisch : If you look at it under high mag, and carefull, you can see the pentagonal morphology

          pagemarker : protocells...? don, you better share this i will do the geometry/acoustics

          dr dan burisch : that seems to be ever present in this process.

          dr dan burisch : This image, really, is hot off the press, right from the photomicrography I did on Wednesday night.

          dr dan burisch : It is not labeled and has no sizing bar yet.

          pagemarker : hmmm... pentagonal morphology... Don... get me my slide rule.....

          dondep : okay. and as long as Bill can understand the science. Wow! Last night!

          dondep : (almost at 50% now....)

          dr dan burisch : the pentagonal morphology is strictly related to the golden mean. He will understand that, I have have referenced the before in my reports (which you have I don't know for sure) and is under study by my asst. Dir.

          crackajack : (what is Don??)

          dondep : the download of the new image, cracka

          dr dan burisch : I have 52% here.

          dondep : (same here, Dan)

          crackajack : ok,

          pagemarker : Dr Dan, phi will root for you...)

          dondep : (Brian! )

          pagemarker : lol.... Don.. this chat made all of the efforts worthwhile

          dr dan burisch : phi and Phi I hope...1.618.... vs. 0.618...

          dr dan burisch : Look to a genius, Dan Winter.

          dr dan burisch : I have, in my searches.

          pagemarker :Dr Dan.... we research him and you too...

          dondep : Dan Winter? What should we make of him? He is under indictment, isn't he? Not that that matters...

          dr dan burisch : He's an absolute genius!

          pagemarker : Dr Dan... i thought you were...!

          crackajack : Do you ever hear from Robert Charles anymore Dan?

          dondep : Do you know him, Dan?

          dr dan burisch : He pissed off the Meru Foundation I heard.

          dondep : Dan Winter did?

          dr dan burisch : Dan Winter or Robert?

          dr dan burisch : I don't know Dan Winter and I am poorer for it.

          dondep : Oh, right. Dan Winter pissed off the Merus...

          dr dan burisch : I have no contact with Robert Charles, none since 1999.

          dr dan burisch : he used the flame letters, without permission.

          dondep : We hear he was a bad actor. A disinfo op.

          crackajack : Does he have a pseudonym? And was he CIA?

          dondep : CIA op.

          pagemarker : indict him now then !

          dr dan burisch : So I heard...it seems that proprietary rights extend to the knowledge of God, for the Meru people, whatever. The truth will out.

          pagemarker : who cares... Don, I read your bank robbery too... so what...??

          dr dan burisch : Who?

          dr dan burisch : Disinfo op?

          dondep : Robt Charles.

          pagemarker : Lone gun....

          dondep : we were told he was a CIA disinfo op.

          dr dan burisch : He has a long story.

          dondep : sent in to throw a monkey wrench into Eagles Disobey: The Case...

          dr dan burisch : He and I were pretty close.

          pagemarker : Dr Dan, we are happy to have been with you this eve....

          dr dan burisch : me too.

          crackajack : (is he also Robert Charles Wilson?)

          dondep : So what happened to him, Dan?

          dr dan burisch : I have no idea, maybe he is where I last knew of him?

          dr dan burisch : No.

          dr dan burisch :Robert C. Charles I think.

          crackajack : Ok thanks Dan

          dondep : You were close to Robt Charles then? the co-author?

          dr dan burisch : Yes, very.

          dr dan burisch : We worked together in security.

          dr dan burisch : Good guy all in all, lover of dogs.

          dondep : so, no truth to what we heard about him sent in to warp the Mars book?

          kiwi : lover of dogs means he can't be all bad

          dr dan burisch : I think that is a question best answered by BJ.

          dr dan burisch : Right!

          crackajack : Speaking of.......

          dondep : okay, will leave to her to find a way.

          crackajack : Did Marcia write a book called signature bets??

          dr dan burisch : Yes.

          dondep : !!!!!!

          dr dan burisch : She is a gaming expert.

          crackajack : aha. i knew it. Thank you

          dr dan burisch : Surveillance Expert

          dondep : So, would he help us? Robt Charles, that is?

          dr dan burisch : I have 100% here Don.

          dr dan burisch : I don't know.

          dr dan burisch : You have to know Robert, to fully appreciate him.

          dondep : okay, looking at pic now....

          crackajack : What about Mrs Howell? Or is that not fair to her?

          dr dan burisch : Good!

          dr dan burisch : She knew little of me, except that Butch and I were (ARE) best friends.

          dondep : and after answering cracka, can you give me a caption for this picture, and help everyone to understand what is going on it it?

          dr dan burisch : His death still hurts.

          dondep : How did he die, Dan?

          crackajack : We do have a heart. My apologies for bringing it up

          dr dan burisch : He was (IS) my brother, in the most important ways.

          crackajack : wait Don

          dr dan burisch : We all lost many things during the production of Eagles Disobey.
          Some lost their trust of others, Others lost parts of their background,
          Some lost money ( ) Others their life.
          In every case, I am the responsible person, as I was the leader of the venture to make the issue public. I take full responsibility, even for the disaster that happened with Butch.

          pagemarker : Dr Dan...!! the loss of life is sad... soul lives on....

          dr dan burisch : sb

          kiwi : Incredible to contemplate from here Dan.

          dondep : what was it that happened to Butch, when you get back...

          crackajack : Ok I understand.

          dr dan burisch : Butch died of a very fast moving, aggressive cancer.

          dondep : we hear that's one of the ways people are, er, 'erased', or eliminated.

          dr dan burisch : sb

          crackajack : Ok, we need to rest on this please

          pagemarker : Dr Dan... I put your wishes in the communal cup... hope you dont mind

          dondep : (oh no; I should know better.....please forgive me Dan)

          dr dan burisch : I am sorry...continuing....

          dondep : It is part of the story. I am so very sorry to have asked....

          dr dan burisch : Such erasure allegations have been made in the past.

          dr dan burisch : I know. It's okay.

          pagemarker : Irish funerals are not sad things...

          dr dan burisch : It's not, but it's okay...if you get my meaning.

          crackajack : yes we get it Dr

          dr dan burisch : He was such a wonderful man.

          pagemarker : you guys lost me a while back, i am still trying to figure out the harmonics

          crackajack : Would u like a Bigelow?? (smile)

          dr dan burisch : You have the picture up Don?

          dondep : Yes Dan

          dr dan burisch : Which one?

          dr dan burisch : ya...sb I am going to make a cup. (smile)

          dondep : lol! the big one!

          kiwi : lol Don

          dondep : (Dan, when you get back, can you send a pic to Cracka? A Doc for the Crack Cracka?)

          Yahoo! Messenger : dr dan burisch has left the conference.

          dondep : oh no!

          crackajack : I can imagine a coffee called "Utah Ranch"

          crackajack : He's gone

          pagemarker : we all had a great time...

          crackajack : xxxxxxxxxx now offline

          crackajack : WHOA!!!!!

          dondep : I always have tons of q's AFTER he's gone

          pagemarker : but Dr Dan is the life of the party.....

          xxxxxxxxxxxxxx : Sorry, that is all the time I could risk without giving away that this conversation occurred tonight.

          crackajack : OK I understand, and thank u so much

          xxxxxxxxxxxxxx : I hope that your time with Dan was as valuable as what we feel our time with him is.

          crackajack : Are you a raven?

          xxxxxxxxxxxxxx : No.

          crackajack : ok

          crackajack : no more questions.

          crackajack : unless u want

          crackajack : is raven ok?

          xxxxxxxxxxxxxx : Maybe something of what I did will give testimony to mankind that I cared.

          crackajack : I know u do

          crackajack : Could I ask u to chat with us, or not?

          crackajack : ok, thx anyway. Stay safe and keep faith..

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