Al Gore Admits he Makes Money From His Global Warming Fear Mongering:
Posted on May 14, 2008 by Mr Pink Eyes
This is something that I have written about in the past, Al Gore stands to make millions, let me correct that, many more millions than he already has off of this whole global warming farce. Why anybody would fall for this scam after they realize how profitable it is to the god of environmentalism I will never understand. At a speech in front of potential investors Al Gore gave them some advice on where to invest their “green” money. He also admitted he stands to make a fortune if they follow his advice.
Here are just a few of the investments I personally think make sense,” he said during the March 1 presentation. “I have a stake in these so I’ll have a disclaimer there.”
Finally he shows us the truth, and the truth is Al Gore is in it for the money. Just think about the arrogance this man has that he no longer even feels he has to hide this information any more. There is a problem with his company however, he need government help to keep it all afloat:
without government action on climate change, some business analysts say green companies backed by KPCB ( Al Gore’s company) are either unlikely to be profitable or that their growth will be slow.
So it is no wonder that Al Gore is constantly saying that the United States government must get involved in the climate change hoax, it is all starting to come together now. It is time to put an end to this before it is too late and we are paying more “green” taxes, are forced to buy carbon credits, and are regulated to death.
Al Gore will make millions off of the backs of the American people, but he is not the only one. We are going to pay dearly if we do not rise up and fight this insanity. It is up to us, are we going to follow blindly or are we going to realize what is going on here and stop the insanity.
We are in deep trouble here because all three remaining presidential candidates are on board with the climate change agenda. We must not let this happen to us.
By coming right out and admitting he stands to make money off of our environmental guilt he has proven one thing. That he has brass balls. If we fall for this scam he will be able to afford gold ones.
mpinkeyes.wordpress.com/2008/0...gering/
Posted on May 14, 2008 by Mr Pink Eyes
This is something that I have written about in the past, Al Gore stands to make millions, let me correct that, many more millions than he already has off of this whole global warming farce. Why anybody would fall for this scam after they realize how profitable it is to the god of environmentalism I will never understand. At a speech in front of potential investors Al Gore gave them some advice on where to invest their “green” money. He also admitted he stands to make a fortune if they follow his advice.
Here are just a few of the investments I personally think make sense,” he said during the March 1 presentation. “I have a stake in these so I’ll have a disclaimer there.”
Finally he shows us the truth, and the truth is Al Gore is in it for the money. Just think about the arrogance this man has that he no longer even feels he has to hide this information any more. There is a problem with his company however, he need government help to keep it all afloat:
without government action on climate change, some business analysts say green companies backed by KPCB ( Al Gore’s company) are either unlikely to be profitable or that their growth will be slow.
So it is no wonder that Al Gore is constantly saying that the United States government must get involved in the climate change hoax, it is all starting to come together now. It is time to put an end to this before it is too late and we are paying more “green” taxes, are forced to buy carbon credits, and are regulated to death.
Al Gore will make millions off of the backs of the American people, but he is not the only one. We are going to pay dearly if we do not rise up and fight this insanity. It is up to us, are we going to follow blindly or are we going to realize what is going on here and stop the insanity.
We are in deep trouble here because all three remaining presidential candidates are on board with the climate change agenda. We must not let this happen to us.
By coming right out and admitting he stands to make money off of our environmental guilt he has proven one thing. That he has brass balls. If we fall for this scam he will be able to afford gold ones.
mpinkeyes.wordpress.com/2008/0...gering/
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 9:48 PMThanks for the tip Randy!
Sounds like a sound investment, think i'll buy some of his companies stock with my stimulus check! lol
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 10:12 PMlol, yeah, if you want to get filthy rich this is the perfect investment, nobody will even suspect a thing haha -
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 10:58 PMso lemme get this straight:
is it just "going green" or "green companies" you're against, or the fact that someone could possibly be ~oh horror of horrors!~ be making money from "going green"? do you have something against money? i bet you'd be happy if a whole boatload of it landed in your lap...maybe he is making dough, but at least he's doing it doing something positive for the planet....
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 3:01 AMAndy you aren't making a cent from yours. Not fair is it. -
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 5:29 AMI'm amazed and deeply saddened by the continued attacks on al gore here. I really can't understand it. Ya'll see the whole global warming idea as some sort of a scam, but the reasons i read for such a scam being perpetrated do not make a bit of sense to me, whereas the motivations for those who want to continue big business as usual are strong and obvious. IMO, ya'll have been duped into parroting a right wing lie and are in the service of big business and militaristic forces.
Like the link you gave, randy, from a right winger who is big on the military, big against gay marriage, big for john mcsame, and has some pictures and ideas that seem frankly (predictably) racist, sexist, and downright mean spirited.
All of this is the official right wing dogma of the rush limbaugh dittoheads. But i guess they are telling you what you want to hear about global warming.
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 5:27 PMGores a politician, so you know he's up to no good. ;p
Whats up with the lumping of all ideas into one camp or another anyways? Is this black and white, partisanship - vision, or what? -
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 3:42 AMI think it is instructive to look at the links and ideological orientation of pages where your "information" comes from. This is all part of a right wing worldview that ya'll are being unwitting todies for. -
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 4:13 AMnow it all makes sense....maybe he's a mole!
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 9:47 AMI'm not sure why do you ride on this left wing/right wing stuff, Wil. This division is a media created crap and in US especially, for a long time there is no left or right. This type of political separation isn't helping the people to make up their minds, who is who on the "political" scene.
The purpose of this classification is just to confuse the average folks and drive them into distraction from the serious issues.
Both big political parties in the US have leftist and rightist elements. Democrats can be horrible Bible thumper brainwashed zombies, while some Republicans are gays, lesbians, smoking pot and wearing Che Guevara t-shirts.
If I may plug in my personal opinion, I think, the conventional politics as we/you knew it a few decades ago, is no longer existing. The signs of this is unmistakable in North America, but other places too. Politics exist on mere rhetorical basis- rich businessmen are talking all kinds of non-sense to media, while the reality of their actions is completely different. This is how the gap between the daily rhetorics and the actual events in the world are getting wider and wider. Governments are talking about going "Green" and saving the environment and the planet, while deforestation, destruction of natural environments, digging for oil just about anywhere and the never ending lust for more and more and more profit makes a priority above all. -
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 9:55 AM"Democrats can be horrible Bible thumper brainwashed zombies, while some Republicans are gays, lesbians, smoking pot and wearing Che Guevara t-shirts. "
Wil does not live in California, so he does not know these things : )
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 10:39 AMI'm not sure why i ride this left wing/right wing stuff either, Auton. It's true, like Ozai implies, that the in VA democrats are still the progressives and republicans the party of big business and racists and superpatriots and ........damn this stuff does seem to all run together, but i don't want to get habituated into us/them thinking on that account. I believe in the bird, not the wings, although now, for the good of the bird, i think the right wing has put us all in a tailspin and the progressive wing had better pull for all it's worth. The links i was talking about lead to the predictable conspiracies, many of which have clearly identifiable the cold war era dna, and to pages where people very much have republican colored us/them lenses in place. The anti Gore stuff, in particular and naturally so. -
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 1:49 PMOf course it's runs together. The big business is run by transnational groups who thrive on fake patriotism. They bang their chest to be this big and that big Americans while they have no problem with importing a dozen shiploads of Chinese crap, lay off a few hundred American workers and make a killing profit so they can buy their nuclear safe bunker- villas on three different continents. And when the life will get seriously fucked up in North America,they will have no problem jumping on a jet and saying bye-bye to the ruins.
These characters have NO PRINCIPLES. Only INTERESTS. The problem is that Al Gore comes down in a similar fashion; he isn't walking his talking. He's a God damn corrupted businessmen, representing corporate interests and pushing his own agenda. He is very much part of the big business; implementing new technologies (like biodiesel, eh?!) and fooling the people to spend their money to be "green".
Honestly, we should stop implementing more technology. Fine, the whole world is going to drive no emission cars, but where do you gonna park them? On the top of the trees? Where are you going to dispose all the waste that's coming from these "clean" technologies (like batteries)? In the oceans, rivers and lakes? What's gonna happen with the old technologies? How many landfills we need to get rid off the old gas guzzlers?
The political scene is a farce, filled with absolutely not funny clowns (okay, I must admit GWB dubya had his moments...) -
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 2:17 PMal?
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Mon, May 19, 2008 - 3:54 PMThis major point is far from 'right-wing' and actually a true expose of Gore's hypocrisy. It is Gore who is working for the NWO agenda as has been established long ago. He is a major polluter for all his claims. His company is making millins from 'carbon-trading' which is nothing more than a scam. Amazing to see anyone with half-a-brain actually believe that Gore is in it for anymore than the money when he does nothing that he tells everyone else to be doing and actually is part of the problem.
But of course the eco-zealots who have been nicely programmed to believe their leaders stating that CO2 is a major greenhouse gas (GHG). Not very bright when science at its most objective knows absolutely that CO2 forms about 10% of the atmosphere and that humans are responsible for producing less than half of it. So, armed with sophisticated techniques of mathmatics and logic, it is easy to calculate that humans are responsible for less than 5% of GHG and therefore NOT responsible for the present climate changes.
When the planet has been through a period of record cold temperatures many of which were records over decades and even a century, then the 'theory' of 'global warming' caused by humans is revealed as nonsense.
When the tropospheric temperatures are known to have been falling since the peak in temperature since 1998, then the atmosphere is clearly NOT warming.
When it is announced by various scientific bodies that 2007 was the coldest year since 2001, then it is even more certain that there is a cooling going on (as has been predicted by plenty of scientists for years!).
Then when the many (3 million) undersea volcanoes warming the oceans in such places as the Antarctic and Arctic, are considered, then it is obvious that there is much more to the story.
It really shows that the eco-zealots and their duped colleagues are unaware of objective science and are towing-a-line which only serves to make them look foolish. It is one thing to care for the biosphere and want pollution to stop, to want sustainability, etc, but that is not now nor has ever been the same as climate change.
When the planetary temperatures fell dramatically from the '40s to '70s during a period of rapid increase in CO2, the ONLY correlation with that cooling was the decline in solar activity. And every objective scientist knows that CO2 levels follow temperature, as has been demonstrated over and over again.
But every climatologist knows that the Earth has been many degrees warmer than the peak in 1998 a number of times in the last few thousand years without any high CO2 levels and without human pollution. To suggest otherwise would be unscientific and a lie!
So why the lies? Just for money? No of course not! When a sufficient number of humans are unprepared for massive, and predicted, Earth changes they perish in large numbers which just happens to be the spoken and written agenda of certain world elite groups (population reduction). Instead of preparing whole populations for what is known and warned about the choice is to continue with arms production and wars, false elections, 'bread and circus', elite 'soap opera', as if there is 'nothing to worry about!'. But of course there are plenty of expensive conferences to agree on carbon trading and green taxes, nuclear power programmes, and laws about ethanol production and its sourcing from valuable food surpluses. To use lies to deprive large numbers of humans basic foodstuffs and manipulate pricing is dispicable!
And all the while huge underground installations are being created to house selected groups of populations!
The Maya, Hopi and others are saying that humans need to prepare for the great shaking/purification that is coming (already started). They know that the changes are part of a great cycle that has happened a number of times before. They know that cosmic forces drive the changes and many humans can survive if they implement certain measure.
But the good old human ego wants to believe that it is actually driving the changes (that have been prophecied for centuries and are remembered in the aural traditions).
The planetary temperatures will continue to fall, major destructive events will continue and probably accelerate, and the process of purification will be completed whether humans like it or not!
It really is time to wake up and prepare for what cannot be stopped only alleviated.
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Mon, May 19, 2008 - 9:09 PMTrue that. -
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Mon, May 19, 2008 - 9:12 PMword
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 3:17 AMWell, i can see how you would think that way, if a linchpin of your thinking is the "new world order" conspiracy theory, which it very much seems to be. I think this is a two dimensional, black white, cartoonish and totally false view of the world. I remember very well where i first heard the term bandied about: on right wing/libertarian short wave radio before the bombing of the federal building in OK city. Oh that bad old new world order, and the un's black helicopters, and threats to americans all powerful red white and blue world order for rich whites only. I thought it was pathological. I think it's pathological, and silly. I do not believe in chemtrails, reptillian gene replacement theory, i think masons are fuddy duddy do gooders with an entirely understandable penchant for secrecy. I think these are projections from a deep anxiety about having little control over an extremely complicated situation. I think it's all a bunch of paranoid twaddle from folks not strong enough to bear the responsibility of knowing that there is no "other" in charge.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_...cy_theory)
I think eco zealots are exactly what we need right now. Our collective actions are destroying our planet. Even if there were no such thing as global warming from human sources, which there is, but even if not, we are polluting the oceans, rivers, atmosphere and genome. We are destroying the forests and the very soil that the forests grow on.
I think we need more eco zealots like al gore.
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 4:00 AMLike I have said before, you really do not have clue about the subject you are spouting on. If you continue to adhere to the lies about CO2 causing 'global warming' when it is beyond proven that it cannot be so, then you are doing yourself a major disfavour. Your 'beliefs' about AGW are most definitely proven wrong!
As for the naive view that there is no conspiracy happening that there is no drive to NWO (when the elite have stated many times) despite masses of evidence to the contrary, then really you are missing the point.
Since when have chemtrails been a matter of 'belief' anymore than the global elite and their secret organisations manipulating whole economies and conspiring to create wars, famines and depressions? The suggestions of examples of a "false view of the world" are the real "twaddle" of this thread! It mostly reads like a debunker repeatedly attempting to stop any dissent.
Humans are not destroying the planet only themselves. The planet will continue without humans if it has to. The eco-zealot drive is all about fear and not preparing. It is about guilt and shame and manipulating whole populations for profit. The entire 'depression'/scarcity plan is for profit of the elite and absolutely avoidable. It is created deliberately to create fear and willing slaves, to justify more centralisation and more mega-profit for the elite.
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 5:10 AMDissent all you want, it does not bother me even a little. If i'm spouting off, you most certainly are too. I am just stating what i think, and do not mean any personal insult.
I like Al Gore. With so many out there so much worse (!), i really wonder why he comes in for special abuse from ya'll. -
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 5:56 AMAl Gore's movie has probably done more to influence government and industry to switch to green than any other act by any other individual so far. That’s why he won the noble prize.
Money is not bad in off itself its how you use it and what you do to make it that matters. If you think Al Gore is so bad just ask yourself this, have you individually done more for the switch to clean energy than him ? I'll guarantee that answer is no.
Even if you decided to "opt out" of the mainstream, live in the wilderness, have nothing to do with polluting companies, power your needs solely by alternative means and live a simple non materialistic lifestyle, as laudable as that is in these times, what’s that going to do to switch the billions of the mainstream world over to clean energy, to encourage America, Europe, China and India to go green ? Answer - very little.
Al Gore and others like him (Richard Branson, James Martin, The Goggles etc, etc, ) are fighting a good fight, if they gain personally from that, well so be it. Id a lot rather big $'s go to people like him than people like the CEO of Exxon. After all what’s wrong with people being rewarded for doing good stuff in commerce ?
There's a bitter strain sometimes run's through this tribe times and it tastes very sour to me. Sometimes i think some people would rather see the world destroyed with pollution and war - just to prove those at the top are wicked, than see some at the top change things.
This guy is lobbying global leaders and leaders of major power institutions constantly to make a switch, this is what he says on the impact of Gore's film -
www.bigthink.com/outlook-the-future/8303
Now as this guy works for the world bank, I’m sure some of you are goanna say this guy is bad, but again, ask yourself how much is this guy affecting the mainstream polluting machinery of mainstream society, compared to yourself ?
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 7:36 AMExcellent letter Elo.
You made your views very clear and I agree with you.
You are right by saying that Al Gore's success
deserves the Noble Prize. Al Gore's film has been
viewed by millions GLOBALLY and this has rippled into many
other areas within the GREEN sector...The effects have
been enormous. Politicians here in Australia took serious
note, they changed their campaigns by making them
more 'green'. Thanks to his production, they were forced
by the general 'viewing' public, to admit that we are screwing up the earth
and it is our responsibility NOW to change that around.
That film alone made history.
Financial success from the film is only natural...
What is one to do for being paid in momentary terms
for work well done? Refuse it? Bury it? Ignore it?
Enjoy it of-course...Enjoy it with pleasure and pride.
Perhaps this form of energy (money) may be used
by Al Gore to inspire and financially support other creative
projects...Perhaps inspire other film directors, writers,
policiticians and thinkers to come up with better
and wiser solutions to care for our earth,
now, and in years to come.
Money is a wonderful form of energy that deserves
our attention and respect. We must learn to play
with it wisely...but play with it non-the-less and
use it to make positive dreams come true.
xM
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 9:42 AMI'm on my second bio-diesel vehicle in 4 years, the first was chevy luv mikado and now I have a vw caddy. I bought the mikado dirt cheap at a wrecking yard and after minor fixes got it up and running for about 800.00 total. Needless to say I was a happy guy (I totally believe in an algae based BD future) and I drove the truck for a few years. However, there did come a time when I needed to sell the mikado because I was going to be driving over a long and rather treacherous stretch of curvy autobahn-like highway (17 btwn SC & LG , for those in the bay area...you know what I'm talking about). So I listed the thing on ebay for 1000.00 and lo and behold, it sold for 3600.00.
People want to spend money to be green. This is a huge mental shift from a decade ago, and it this point it seems to have caught on worldwide. Folks no longer think about whether they should or shouldn't, now they just want direction. There is disinfo everywhere, this is true, but the shift has given people the motivation to be careful about choices they make. We WILL have better and better choices in the future, but we are in a race against time. The ocean CAN NOT absorb the amount of C02 currently being pumped in to the air, and corrections to the imbalance is brewing. Whatever it takes to reduce emissions, I'm behind it. Interestingly, 2012 has been targeted as a "tipping point" date by the IPCC.
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 11:00 AMFor sure, when I watched the Al Gore movie for the first time, I was totally convinced that everything that he was saying is 100% true. It is a smart propaganda movie, lotsa money invested into promotion and stirring up the dust.
And to distinguish between the things: going green and being green is totally different. Anyone who is thinking in technological terms will suck up this propaganda and will be eventually led to dead ends. Those, who are "considering going greener" after the Al Gore movie are still the same consumers who happily bought just about anything or everything a decade ago when the mantra was different ("it's good for the local economy" they used to say or "save local jobs" etc.) There was always a smart marketing how to lure people into spending more on stuff that they never needed.
Now even Wal-Mart has joined the "Green Revolution" and you can buy organic window cleaner or organic cotton tips. Just what we need.
It gives me shivers to imagine what would happen if millions of Chinese drivers would become "conscious" and demand bio-diesel to run their vehicles. How many millions of people are to be sacrificed and starved to death so that the conscious Chinese middle class could join the pleasures of the Western lifestyle? In a world with a food crises, are we going to burn more and more organic resources to satisfy this addiction? The whole bio-diesel thing is a massive sham yet to establish another rare and controlled resource by corporations and the ruling financial elite. This is the point where Al Gore starts to stink like a bag of McD's GMO fries.
While the population is fooled into the green issues and as Psi said, a collective guilt that "WE" fucked up the planet, the real problems are hidden from daylight; the uncontrolled population boom, the uncontrolled military-industry complex that's spending BILLIONS on weapons and means of destruction, the free looting multinational companies that have no other objective but profit, destroying natural habitats, communities, families along the way. -
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 11:30 AM"While the population is fooled into the green issues and as Psi said, a collective guilt that "WE" fucked up the planet, the real problems are hidden from daylight; the uncontrolled population boom, the uncontrolled military-industry complex that's spending BILLIONS on weapons and means of destruction, the free looting multinational companies that have no other objective but profit, destroying natural habitats, communities, families along the way."
No guilt necessary, but we have to change our ways, Auton. The uncontrolled population boom and uncontrolled military-industrial complex and free wheeling multinationals are certainly big problems. Our continued dependence on fossil fuels is also a big problem. These are, in fact, interlocking problems. I don't believe anything al gore or anyone else says 100%, and neither do i think that he is engaged in a cynical and unusual plot to make a lot of money. I think he is sincere. I think you are sincere too.
sincerely,
wil
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 12:11 PMso are we blaming Al Gore for the Chinese wanting to get themselves out of poverty ? Sure the middle class in China are benifiting most, as they do in any society, but the fact is that 40 years ago many Chinse were starving exactly as they are now in Africa.
You will never stop the Chinese trying to develop, if you say this in China they will virtualy hung draw and quater you, and im not just talking about the government there. After 200 years of China being bullied by the colonial powers, especialy the British, there is a hunger there like you wouldnt belive to "get back up there". Sure i dont want to see China make the same mistakes we have - the only hope is for China, and India, to use much greener technologies, many of these are in the pipeline - though i admit this is a very close call.
Im going to do a bit of reaserach on bio-disel as admitedly i dont know a great deal about it, what your saying i guess is its production and transportation produce more pollution than it saves. But as far as i see it Al Gore isnt just pushing that, he is pushing a gneral movment to live more in hamrony with nature and in particular curb green house gases.
I cant see how its bad wal-mart seeling greener products. Would you prefer them to sell products with non-biodegradable chemicals in ? Because one way or another them products are going to get bought. Even if the CEO of Wall Mart decided to close wall mart down, pretending the share holders would support this, there would be another Wall Mart pop up as quick as you can imagine.
Because for sure Auton the mass of the world isnt going to pack there rucksack tommorow and trop off to the hills, and live a pure basic, back to nature lifestyle, like in times gone by. Its just not going to happen dude. You have to be realistic about this.
I completly agree with you that its horrendeous how much money and resources are squandered on millitary. But you show me a time in history Auton when goveremnts didnt do this ? Yes were chnging, and thats good, of course, and the world needs more people like you and the people on here who have a passion for natural things and nature. But your never going to take the masses with you by preaching at them.
Anger doesnt sell dude, you have to be persusive. Show a salesman who sells with anger or judgmental tactics, a salesment who wins over people by giving them anger ?
<<Those, who are "considering going greener" after the Al Gore movie are still the same consumers who happily bought just about anything or everything a decade ago when the mantra was different>>
so isnt this a fantastic thing, that people who didnt give a shit are starting to become more aware ?
I think anger on this issue is misplaced emotion. The whole of human evolution this last 200 years has been heading in this direction, thats not Al Gores fault, its not even the CEO of Exxon's fault, its the tied of history, 100 years ago nobody even knew about global warming, and the majority thought the world was to big for pollution to have a real effect.
Now the society this has created is like a gigantic elephant the size of the planet, the culture and belif systems that come with it are passed from generation to generation and in some people, are very entrenched. Dude it takes time to change that elephant, it not easy. That of course is the enormous challenge of our times.
Sure some companies are blowing a false green whistle, well its the job of pressure groups and peopole like yourself to keep them on there toes and challenge that, hopefuly sometime soon we are going to have a better media system that puts more pressure on these companies and global leaders to make drastic change, and offers the public better info.
I dont agree that technolgy offers no solutions. I think we need to tackle this on both sides, change in habbits and lifestyle AND cleaner technology. What of Googles new solar company who are producing solar film at around 1/5th of normal cost, puting its usage cost below fossile fule ? What of Carbon Capture ?
And what if there is a break through in cold water fussion, some say this could be only 10-20 years ago if well funded, there was an indpendant scientist who posted up to this forum only a month ago who thinks with proper funding it could be that close.
I do wonder i got to say if they did manage to make completly clean energy and biodegradble products, what the poeple who say money, commerce and tehcnology are inherently bad would say then ?
In any revolution, and society does need a real green revolutioon, you need hardliners, people who demand massive change people like you Aunton who demand much more - that pushes the masses and corporations more inline, but drop the anger and hostility- it doesnt sell, and a greener planet is something we despratly need to sell to the masses and government.
For my money, id still say nothing has done that more effectivly than Inconvieniant Truth. Sure we need to go much futher than that, but i completly agree with Will that this US and Them attitude is to simplistic and not constructive. -
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 12:20 PMJust to say Aunton and Randy i mean no personal hostility to you guys in talking like this, i think both of you have your heart in the right place, i just really disagree as to the aproach on how to change things, like a lot of us on here i can get a bit heated when talking about stuff that means a lot to me. Peace. -
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Re: Al Gore Admits he Makes Money From His Global Warming Fear Mongering
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 12:57 PMI want to be clear on this, the bio-diesel industry as it is does not work. BUT we have the tech to get 100,000 or even a million times the BD output per acre from algae over biomass, producing on otherwise unusable land. So you can tear down the current industry all you want, but don't be a fool and and throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Sometimes I get the feeling the far left is equally as armageddon happy as the far right. What kind of human wishes for mass death and catastrophic suffering?
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Re: Al Gore Admits he Makes Money From His Global Warming Fear Mongering
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 1:42 PMI agree about the bio-diesel industry. One of the guys here where i live makes it out of waste oil from resturants, for another person here who has a diesel car. He made a very nice looking little unit to do this out of an old water heater and a bunch of pipes, fittings and gages. He just walked in the door taking a break, actually. Today, he tells me, he built a mist washer out of toilet bowl float valve and some irrigation sprinklers. I have little idea what this means, but he needs me to buy him some actual mist heads off ebay or somewhere online. This sort of small scale local effort makes more and more sense as prices rise and, i think, arises naturally.
Our task, as i see it, is to come up with ways to live that make sense and do not lead to catastrophic futures. The wish for this sort of amageddon future must come from some deep sadness and dissatisfaction over the way society is structured now. We have to change our ways not just because of global warming, or even because of pollution and scarcity, but on a deeper level, because this current fractured and factored way of life is catastrophic suffering by itself.
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Re: Al Gore Admits he Makes Money From His Global Warming Fear Mongering
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 2:05 PM
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Re: Al Gore Admits he Makes Money From His Global Warming Fear Mongering
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 5:01 PM<< BUT we have the tech to get 100,000 or even a million times the BD output per acre from algae over biomass>> do you have an links on the subject, id be interestined to learn more about it, sounds very interesting ? -
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Re: Al Gore Admits he Makes Money From His Global Warming Fear Mongering
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 5:14 PMgee, lo, where you been?
there's a thread call algae...
duh
of course, after the opening got a bit off topic
but you are used to that
whiskey?
or just the chasers...
are there strip bars in the mountains?
mp quite brilliant on this one
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Re: Al Gore Admits he Makes Money From His Global Warming Fear Mongering
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 6:07 PMSure Elo.
Here is a bunch:
earth2tech.com/2008/03/27...fuel-tanks/
But these guys really have me excited:
www.valcent.net/s/Home.asp
The vertical grow tanks could be stacked in glass towers....the green skyscrapers of a possible future!
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Re: Al Gore Admits he Makes Money From His Global Warming Fear Mongering
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 7:16 PMThere was a special on that in brass eye a few years back. It's 4:40 into this : youtube.com/watch -
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Re: Al Gore Admits he Makes Money From His Global Warming Fear Mongering
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 7:26 PMok, profress0r khan
time to square the dominoes...
did you know about this a few years back? -
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Tue, May 20, 2008 - 7:56 PMcan't says I did. not my field old boy
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