2012 isn't the end of the world, Mayan elder insists

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2012 isn't the end of the world, Mayan elder insists

By Mark Stevenson, Associated Press Writer – Sun Oct 11, 2009

"MEXICO CITY – Apolinario Chile Pixtun is tired of being bombarded with frantic questions about the Mayan calendar supposedly "running out" on Dec. 21, 2012. After all, it's not the end of the world.

Or is it?

Definitely not, the Mayan Indian elder insists. "I came back from England last year and, man, they had me fed up with this stuff."

It can only get worse for him. Next month Hollywood's "2012" opens in cinemas, featuring earthquakes, meteor showers and a tsunami dumping an aircraft carrier on the White House.

At Cornell University, Ann Martin, who runs the "Curious? Ask an Astronomer" Web site, says people are scared.

"It's too bad that we're getting e-mails from fourth-graders who are saying that they're too young to die," Martin said. "We had a mother of two young children who was afraid she wouldn't live to see them grow up."

Chile Pixtun, a Guatemalan, says the doomsday theories spring from Western, not Mayan ideas.

A significant time period for the Mayas does end on the date, and enthusiasts have found a series of astronomical alignments they say coincide in 2012, including one that happens roughly only once every 25,800 years.

But most archaeologists, astronomers and Maya say the only thing likely to hit Earth is a meteor shower of New Age philosophy, pop astronomy, Internet doomsday rumors and TV specials such as one on the History Channel which mixes "predictions" from Nostradamus and the Mayas and asks: "Is 2012 the year the cosmic clock finally winds down to zero days, zero hope?"

It may sound all too much like other doomsday scenarios of recent decades — the 1987 Harmonic Convergence, the Jupiter Effect or "Planet X." But this one has some grains of archaeological basis.

One of them is Monument Six.

Found at an obscure ruin in southern Mexico during highway construction in the 1960s, the stone tablet almost didn't survive; the site was largely paved over and parts of the tablet were looted.

It's unique in that the remaining parts contain the equivalent of the date 2012. The inscription describes something that is supposed to occur in 2012 involving Bolon Yokte, a mysterious Mayan god associated with both war and creation.

However — shades of Indiana Jones — erosion and a crack in the stone make the end of the passage almost illegible.

Archaeologist Guillermo Bernal of Mexico's National Autonomous University interprets the last eroded glyphs as maybe saying, "He will descend from the sky."

Spooky, perhaps, but Bernal notes there are other inscriptions at Mayan sites for dates far beyond 2012 — including one that roughly translates into the year 4772.

And anyway, Mayas in the drought-stricken Yucatan peninsula have bigger worries than 2012.

"If I went to some Mayan-speaking communities and asked people what is going to happen in 2012, they wouldn't have any idea," said Jose Huchim, a Yucatan Mayan archaeologist. "That the world is going to end? They wouldn't believe you. We have real concerns these days, like rain."

The Mayan civilization, which reached its height from 300 A.D. to 900 A.D., had a talent for astronomy

Its Long Count calendar begins in 3,114 B.C., marking time in roughly 394-year periods known as Baktuns. Thirteen was a significant, sacred number for the Mayas, and the 13th Baktun ends around Dec. 21, 2012.

"It's a special anniversary of creation," said David Stuart, a specialist in Mayan epigraphy at the University of Texas at Austin. "The Maya never said the world is going to end, they never said anything bad would happen necessarily, they're just recording this future anniversary on Monument Six."

Bernal suggests that apocalypse is "a very Western, Christian" concept projected onto the Maya, perhaps because Western myths are "exhausted."

If it were all mythology, perhaps it could be written off.

But some say the Maya knew another secret: the Earth's axis wobbles, slightly changing the alignment of the stars every year. Once every 25,800 years, the sun lines up with the center of our Milky Way galaxy on a winter solstice, the sun's lowest point in the horizon.

That will happen on Dec. 21, 2012, when the sun appears to rise in the same spot where the bright center of galaxy sets.

Another spooky coincidence?

"The question I would ask these guys is, so what?" says Phil Plait, an astronomer who runs the "Bad Astronomy" blog. He says the alignment doesn't fall precisely in 2012, and distant stars exert no force that could harm Earth.

"They're really super-duper trying to find anything astronomical they can to fit that date of 2012," Plait said.

But author John Major Jenkins says his two-decade study of Mayan ruins indicate the Maya were aware of the alignment and attached great importance to it.

"If we want to honor and respect how the Maya think about this, then we would say that the Maya viewed 2012, as all cycle endings, as a time of transformation and renewal," said Jenkins.

As the Internet gained popularity in the 1990s, so did word of the "fateful" date, and some began worrying about 2012 disasters the Mayas never dreamed of.

Author Lawrence Joseph says a peak in explosive storms on the surface of the sun could knock out North America's power grid for years, triggering food shortages, water scarcity — a collapse of civilization. Solar peaks occur about every 11 years, but Joseph says there's evidence the 2012 peak could be "a lulu."

While pressing governments to install protection for power grids, Joseph counsels readers not to "use 2012 as an excuse to not live in a healthy, responsible fashion. I mean, don't let the credit cards go up."

Another History Channel program titled "Decoding the Past: Doomsday 2012: End of Days" says a galactic alignment or magnetic disturbances could somehow trigger a "pole shift."

"The entire mantle of the earth would shift in a matter of days, perhaps hours, changing the position of the north and south poles, causing worldwide disaster," a narrator proclaims. "Earthquakes would rock every continent, massive tsunamis would inundate coastal cities. It would be the ultimate planetary catastrophe."

The idea apparently originates with a 19th century Frenchman, Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg, a priest-turned-archaeologist who got it from his study of ancient Mayan and Aztec texts.

Scientists say that, at best, the poles might change location by one degree over a million years, with no sign that it would start in 2012.

While long discredited, Brasseur de Bourbourg proves one thing: Westerners have been trying for more than a century to pin doomsday scenarios on the Maya. And while fascinated by ancient lore, advocates seldom examine more recent experiences with apocalypse predictions.

"No one who's writing in now seems to remember that the last time we thought the world was going to end, it didn't," says Martin, the astronomy webmaster. "There doesn't seem to be a lot of memory that things were fine the last time around."

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  • From the article:

    "The idea apparently originates with a 19th century Frenchman, Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg, a priest-turned-archaeologist who got it from his study of ancient Mayan and Aztec texts."

    Charles Étienne Brasseur de Bourbourg
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bras..._Bourbourg
    Although Brasseur was the leading authority on the ancient Maya in his day, and the discoverer of important lost manuscripts such as the Popol Vuh and Fray Diego de Landa's "Relación de las Cosas de Yucatán," in his late career he became convinced that the ancient Maya civilization derived from the imaginary lost continent of Atlantis. Esoteric scholars picked up on this. Some have never let it go.

    Some other misguided 19th century scholars whose fantasies contributed to what has emerged as the 2012 meme:

    Edward King, Viscount Kingsborough
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Kingsborough
    Kingsborough, as a college student from a wealthy Irish family, became fascinated with ancient Mexican manuscripts and became convinced that the Aztecs, Maya, and others were actually the Lost Tribes of Israel. He dedicated his fortune to publishing facsimiles of codices, reports on mysterious ruins, and other documents to support his theories. While this put a lot of useful material into the hands of scholars, his fantastic theories fueled speculation that was later invalidated.

    Jean-Frédéric Waldeck
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean...ic_Waldeck
    Waldeck, who had been to Egypt as a soldier under Napoleon, later trained as a painter under Romantic master Jacques-Louis David. He traveled in Mexico, especially Yucatan and Chiapas, in the early 1800s and published some of the first detailed illustrations of Maya ruins. Unfortunately, his images were embellished with reconstructed details that made Maya pyramids look like Egyptian ones and Maya sculpture look as if it were in the style of ancient Greece. (He also included heads of elephants in his illustrations of Maya glyph panels.) When Waldeck's illustrations appeared in Brasseur's books with discussions of Maya origins on the lost continent of Atlantis, people believed the fantasies were true.

    Joseph Adhemar
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Adhemar
    Adhemar was a mathematician who first suggested what morphed into pole shift theory. His idea was that the period buildup of ice at the poles resulted in rapid and catastrophic shifts of the Earth's poles due to problems of weight distribution.

    Augustus Le Plongeon
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_plongeon
    Le Plongeon was a romantic adventurer and self-styled archaeologist who, inspired by Heinrich Schliemann's discovery of ancient Troy, sought to make comparable discoveries in the Yucatan. He conducted the first excavations at Chichen Itza, finding a lot of sculpture but destroying significant portions of the site in the process. Le Plongeon became convinced that ancient Egyptian civilization had been derived from ancient Maya civilization (which he dated to 11,500 years ago) by way of Atlantis and that the origins of Freemasonry could be traced to the ancient Maya. He also thought that Jesus' last words on the cross were Mayan. He was widely regarded as an eccentric crackpot. He and his wife Alice, a close associate of Annie Besant, had a strong influence on Madame Blavatsky and the theosophists.

    Désiré Charnay
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desire_Charnay
    Charnay explored and photographed Mexican and Maya ruins. Influenced by 19th century "scientific racism," he advanced a theory that their ancient civilization could be traced through a light-skinned race he referred to as the "Toltecs" whose ancestry could be traced to the Aryans of northern India and the Himalayas.
  • "No one who's writing in now seems to remember that the last time we thought the world was going to end, it didn't," says Martin, the astronomy webmaster. "There doesn't seem to be a lot of memory that things were fine the last time around."

    Unfortunately, it did end with the rise of the Undie-Chrust GWB that led us into a time of darkness and despair, the third world war and the time of Orwellian 1984.
    Cycles are everywhere in nature and the Maya saw this. We don't, because we reject the cycles and believe we can outlive our time here. The problem is that we just keep breeding and because of that stupidity, we will run out of food and we will run out of water and we will run out of space and at some point it will all come crashing down in our arrogant stupid faces and we will end.
    These are the end times if we let them be, but it will have nothing to do with meditation and more to do with action.
  • The article at the top of this thread was reposted to Boing Boing by a former student of mine who added her comments to some of mine. It's drawing lots of interesting comments:

    What actual Mayans are saying about 2012
    www.boingboing.net/2009/10/...ns-a.html
    • Mon
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      I have mixed feelings about the issue; obviously this movie (and other merchandise) will rake in massive profits, while there are impoverished Maya communities that could use some help... On the other hand I really dislike 'property' not to mention 'intellectual property'... imagine if there was a patent on the Pentatonic scale?

      An enforced law that forces money to flow to certain foundations is undesirable imo,
      so all we can hope for is donations from Hollywood to aid organizations; might as well hope for Jesus' return.

      On our end, we can boycott the film and teach people around us what we've learned.
      In my case that will be that the New Age religion is yet another opiate for the masses, and 2012 is a tourist attraction on it's path. Nothing significant will happen but the stories spun will say the things Obama did were exactly what the Maya were expecting... :(

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