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Nearly all of it is conspiratorial with virtually no information about 2012. Not even a reference.
Is this a crowd interested in enriching their lives or furthering fear and uncertainty?
If there's truly fear, discuss the fear.
That is my challenge.
2012 is about a magnificent, spiritual opportunity. In fear it will pass you by apparently for 25,920 years! If there's anything to fear it's missing the bus! Compassion, calmness, courage and quietness will alleviate the fear. If you are here, your life is meaningful. Why question that? Celebrate what's possible rather than finding the nasties whom are trying to stop you.
How does conspiracy replace, or somehow equate to 2012?
Nearly all of it is conspiratorial with virtually no information about 2012. Not even a reference.
Is this a crowd interested in enriching their lives or furthering fear and uncertainty?
If there's truly fear, discuss the fear.
That is my challenge.
2012 is about a magnificent, spiritual opportunity. In fear it will pass you by apparently for 25,920 years! If there's anything to fear it's missing the bus! Compassion, calmness, courage and quietness will alleviate the fear. If you are here, your life is meaningful. Why question that? Celebrate what's possible rather than finding the nasties whom are trying to stop you.
How does conspiracy replace, or somehow equate to 2012?
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Unsu...
Re: FEAR and CONSPIRACY not equal to 2012!
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 12:09 PMFunnily enough it causes me no fear. I'm looking foreward to it, whatever happens. It will be a change of pace, lol. -
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Re: FEAR and CONSPIRACY not equal to 2012!
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 12:39 PMI don't fear death, just the way I will go...
What worries me is...After reading this tribe for a month now, I have begun to question what the hell I am doing.
We just bought a new house. I am going to school so I can get a corporate job. My parents are professionals who have no clue whatsover about what is being talked about in these doomsday circles.
I am still living in the old hologram.
The only thing that has changed is my diet. I'm now vegetarian except for eggs I eat in cookies.
What should I do?
build an orgonite castle?
drop out and drink aya in the amazon?
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Re: FEAR and CONSPIRACY not equal to 2012!
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 12:46 PMYou probably think too much to be getting a job in the corporate arena, alli.
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turn on, tune in, drop out, ascend, descend
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 1:12 PM>"You probably think too much to be getting a job in the corporate arena, alli.
>As for what you should do, well dont get into debt, thats my suggestion. "
Brad,
I'm only doing it for my parents... (karma). Really I am an artist, but am not trying to be a starving one, thus I am going the contemporary route (computer art, graphic design).
Otherwise I would take a hike and roam the world as a psy hippie.
debt? thats part of the program. But all debts will magically disappear, right? -
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Re: turn on, tune in, drop out, ascend, descend
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 1:15 PM"Otherwise I would take a hike and roam the world as a psy hippie. "
knot a bad idea.......may bee eye shall dew just that.....hehe -
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Unsu...
Re: turn on, tune in, drop out, ascend, descend
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 1:30 PM> "knot a bad idea.......may bee eye shall dew just that.....hehe "
isnt that what you are doing already?
I do things for others because I have made invisible contracts with them.
I can't just abandon them, because that will make me feel bad and I will get even more stuck... and it will boomerang. -
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Re: turn on, tune in, drop out, ascend, descend
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 2:25 PM> "knot a bad idea.......may bee eye shall dew just that.....hehe "
"isnt that what you are doing already? "
yes......eye was just cure E us az 2 Y U sed such a thing, and C ing how U know me makes me wonder if m'eye N 2 wishin was N deed korrekt, oar if it was a moor "generalized" state mint.....
either weigh, nothing boundz me except thee desire 2 kome 2gether and kombine efforts and Re: sources N 0rder that we may achieve thee next vital steps N evolushun 4 gaian hue manity........
m'eye efforts R kollektively attuned, knot "personal/nuclear family" attuned......knot getting stuck N THAT vacumm.....
siriusly
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Re: turn on, tune in, drop out, ascend, descend
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 6:14 PM>"either weigh, nothing boundz me except thee desire 2 kome 2gether and kombine efforts and Re: sources N 0rder that we may achieve thee >next vital steps N evolushun 4 gaian hue manity........
>m'eye efforts R kollektively attuned, knot "personal/nuclear family" attuned......knot getting stuck N THAT vacumm....."
bedouin, I have sensed for a long time that you have a genuine looking out for the collective mentality.
I just don't agree with your witch hunt methods of waking people up, that's all.
Everyone will respond differently. I personally don't respond well to direct persecution and judgements. If you want to prove a point to such people, you have to do it in a way that doesn't invalidate them. Think covert operation.
But your (good) intentions were clear from the beginning, so I have been trying not to hold beef against you.
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LOL
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 8:24 PM"bedouin, I have sensed for a long time that you have a genuine looking out for the collective mentality."
"I just don't agree with your witch hunt methods of waking people up, that's all."
didnt know eye had such taktix..........we were scent N 2 SNAP people OUT ov their "koma", and a gently nudge iznt enuff men E timez.....
"Everyone will respond differently."
az eye sea how U "subtly" Re: sponded on thee thread that had know direkt Re: layshun 2 yores truly.....found it a rather passive aggressive judge mental state mint, truth bee know.......
"I personally don't respond well to direct persecution and judgements."
what iz it that U perseev az judge meant and perse Q shun koming from me.........and Y U gotta dew same 2 me?
" If you want to prove a point to such people, you have to do it in a way that doesn't invalidate them."
star E M8, know kan dew.....tiz M possible 2 "vaild8" 2days societal lifestyles and modalities while those weighz R whats killing thee planet
"Think covert operation."
we have that end kovered az well, witch iz Y we will sea moor truth koming out thru otherwise known az mainstream sources.........
we have "kovert personel" N men E areas ov politikal/ekonomik realm......
"But your (good) intentions were clear from the beginning, so I have been trying not to hold beef against you."
then dont....."hold beef against me"............B moor open 2 what we say, kuz moor likely people dont like it knot dew 2 "prezentation", moor like certain unwillingness 2 hear whats B ing sed and thee D fenses arise.......
"but siriusly... I am all ears, so what is your plan exactly?"
we shall delve N2 that shortly, like later this evening.........
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LOL4REAL
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 11:05 PM>"then dont....."hold beef against me"............B moor open 2 what we say, kuz moor likely people dont like it knot dew 2 "prezentation", moor
>like certain unwillingness 2 hear whats B ing sed and thee D fenses arise....... "
I'm very open to what people have to say.
But the way you say things closes me up, initially. Do you see the problem? I'm naturally good at putting myself in other people's shoes, so I know where you are coming from. But you seem to think you know what I am about from the get go.
You introduced yourself to me by telling me my way of thinking is wrong. When you don't even understand it. Just because I said that I know manifestation is real you immediately conclude that I just watched the secret and I sit around manifesting material things. Just because I said that all of this is an illusion, and there's no problem...you think I am serving no purpose. And just because I admit that I am self serving, you think that goes against the collective... See I never claimed to disagree with your philosophy... I understand your collective mentality... But you don't understand mine. You are reading my words but you aren't going any farther, and you think you are teaching me something, when you have not , so far (except maybe patience, and slow reading). If you want to communicate, you have to use a two-way channel. -
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Re: LOL4REAL
Sat, July 26, 2008 - 12:26 AM"You introduced yourself to me by telling me my way of thinking is wrong."
did eye actually say "wrong"? kuz eye know m'eye self and that eye dont use that werd 2 konvey certain thingz tho thee weigh sum hear it they N terpret it that weigh, however we never sed yore weigh ov think king was "wrong", merely kneadz quite possibly 2 Re: assess their 0wn situation.....
"And just because I admit that I am self serving, "
and eye kan admit that eye kan bee "harsh like thee desert at timez".....
" Just because I said that I know manifestation is real you immediately conclude that I just watched the secret and I sit around manifesting material things. "
ok, allow me 2 Re: asses......hue manity haz false koncept ov "manifesting", aside from "the secret"......"manifesting" boilz down 2 "what *I* want"
"Just because I said that all of this is an illusion, and there's no problem...you think I am serving no purpose."
LOL....know, eye think U may have mis N terpreted mate
" . I understand your collective mentality. But you don't understand mine."
then pleeze, dew elabor8......
"and you think you are teaching me something,"
well, eye am knot hear 2 "teach" sew that wood X plain that..........
"when you have not ,"
LOL........guess eye wont get m'eye degree in teach-ology then ;;>)))
"(except maybe patience, and slow reading)."
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Re: LOL4REAL
Sat, July 26, 2008 - 2:53 AMmanifest means 'to hand'.. its pretty tough not to manifest if you have 'manifested' hands.. lol
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Sat, July 26, 2008 - 7:51 PMA practice worth considering. Imagine the other person is you! Not empathetically, but really you. You are there to give you what you want. If you fight, you are resisting in fear. If you consume, you love. If you do not like what you are experiencing, you have more to learn and release. Emotional mastery is the nature of the mirror.
I get the sense that 2012 is a galaxy sized degaussing machine!
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Re: LOL4REAL
Sat, July 26, 2008 - 8:02 PMI had a dream last night that I was sitting with friends and family members at a restaurant and saw a massive, Hollywood sized, wave come down a river. I grew up in Pittsburgh, PA, thus the rivers I presume. I alerted all to run and found myself alone with my Dad climbing rapidly up a steep hill. All that remained after the water had risen was about 15 feet of mountaintop with a small plateau and one tree, waaay up in the atmosphere.
Water represents the subconscious so the dream clearly suggests that there is nowhere else to go but into the water. I have a choice. My desire has been presented to me, by me, in a way that exceeds the limits of corporeality. It this false or an expanded expression of reality? Yet another choice. Mitotic consciousness...
A dream is the journey of an individual. A myth is the journey of many people having a similar dream. I have hears some refer to 2012 as a dreamspell. -
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Sat, July 26, 2008 - 9:23 PM> ream clearly suggests that there is nowhere else to go but into the water.
as long as is warm, i don't mind
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kombined efforts
Sat, July 26, 2008 - 10:49 AM"but siriusly... I am all ears, so what is your plan exactly? "
"eye" dont have a "plan" per say
however this may bee a nice start:
unearthly-souls.tribe.net/threa...37e6fe
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yore karma ran over yore dogma
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 1:17 PM"I'm only doing it for my parents... (karma)."
dew it 4 U, knot sumone else
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Re: FEAR and CONSPIRACY not equal to 2012!
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 12:42 PMHow does conspiracy relate to "2012"?
kuz there have ben set N moshun "konspiracies" mint 2 distrakt us from thee '2012' period ov awakening......
and its moor than ob V us thee distrakshuns kaused buy sed konspiracies seam 2 N deed bee working, otherwise thee diskushuns hear wood bee a WHOLE lot different ....
distrakting us from men E vital preparayshuns that must bee maid Re: guarding thee 0mega point men E Re: fer 2 az 2012
having everyone mentally and psykologikally skattered that true unity iz light years away still........... -
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huh?
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 12:46 PM"Join a star crew and go around telling people they are in denial for believing in manifestation?"
duznt make scents
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Re: FEAR and CONSPIRACY not equal to 2012!
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 12:46 PMRight exactly J'uha, and thanks for that. The problem is that 2012 is an unknown, and there are lots of fearful people desperately projecting their inner fears onto any unknown.
I also think 2012 is all about an opportunity for humanity to evolve. I guess all this fear is something we need to cleanse out of our systems.
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Re: FEAR and CONSPIRACY not equal to 2012!
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 1:54 PMi don't have any idea what "2012" means. it could be a spiritual opportunity...but that is just an opinion. And there are lots of em... It could be the coming transparancy of the powers that be that may cause a cultural revolution. it could be a cycle of mass extinction that seems to have happened in the past. it could be a pole shift. it could be a coming solar storm strong enough to cause major catastrophies in our solar system. it could be the year we discover time travel...or "make contact"...it could be just another year. whatever the case, we are all entitled to our opinion, and if we think it may have something to do with the 2012 phenomena, well then, this is as good a place to discuss it as any. And while you may feel you have the answer, J'uha, it may just be the answer for you.
question everything.
travis
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Re: FEAR and CONSPIRACY not equal to 2012!
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 2:07 PMthere is only so much 2012 stuff to talk about.
then it's all reruns.
i think people just enjoy interacting with one another.
whatever topic happens to interest them.
we are officially called "think tankers"
not conspiracy theorists.
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Re: FEAR and CONSPIRACY not equal to 2012!
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 2:34 PM"we are officially called "think tankers" "
hmm.. so THAT's what's been troubling me!!
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Re: FEAR and CONSPIRACY not equal to 2012!
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 5:16 PM"there is only so much 2012 stuff to talk about."
That's like my Auntie Bette in England asking me in wonderment and a high pitched British accent, "If me don't cook potatoes, what else is there?"
"We are officially called think tankers" Really? I would suggest we're xerox machines!
My brief list below has the bias of understanding the physics / spirituality of Light and the power of Emotion. Everything else is a consequence IMO. 2012 is presenting us face to face with the true nature of our being IMO. If this cannot be proven, make it true anyway. We are writing the story IMO. Get it?
Regarding Conspiracy, imagine being alive in ancient times and possessing powerful knowledge about the meaning of life and origins. There may be very good reasons for keeping much of this information secretive. I am deeply opposed to those that have deceived and am urging this site to LEARN and discuss your findings, rather than minimize the subject into fleeting opinions about other people efforts. Do the work and make miracles happen!
Astronomy: www.astrologycom.com/aqu.html
Jay Widener (Great Cross): www.sacredmysteries.com/sacred...DVD.htm
Astrology of 2101: www.siloam.net/jenkins/5thsun3.html
Ancient Cities emerging now: youtube.com/watch
Blue Thunder's 1000 mile mandala: www.teton-rainbows.com/19plus1.html
Calendar 2012: www.13moon.com/time-is-art.htm
Convergence: www.dprins.demon.nl/converge...ntro.html
Dendera: www.touregypt.net/featurest...endera.htm
Egypt: video.google.com/videosearch
Electromagnetism (metaphor): www.harmonyera.com/1.2.research.htm
Famous people in Energy Science: www.eia.doe.gov/kids/histo...oneers.html
Gregg Braden [part 4 of 4]: video.google.com/videosearch
Human Body (Health / Technology / Spirituality): www.radiationprotector.com/
Inspiring (related) information: www.brucerawles.com/files/ca...ry-4.html
John DeSalvo / Joe Parr (A Decade of Research at Giza): rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/...hr2.mp3
Joe Parr: www.gizapyramid.com/BIO-Parr.htm
Karl Munck: www.pyramidmatrix.com/index.htm
Leonard Horowitz Dr. (Truth and Conspiracy): video.google.com/videoplay
Measurement (Earth): www.earthmeasure.com/Designs/index.html
Nassim Haramein (Fractalline Physics / Updates Einstein): video.google.com/googleplayer.swf
Physics: youtube.com/watch
Quotes: www.quotationspage.com/quotes...oucauld
Recycling: www.gtweekly.com/good-time...n-a-bottle
Story of Stuff: web.1.c3.audiovideoweb.com/1c3w...f.mov
Resonance explained: hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hba...html
Symbols (finally some conspiracy huh!): groups.myspace.com/index.cfm
Sound: www.youtube.com/watch
Toxic Food: www.essene.com/GospelOfPeace/index.html
UFO's (How they work): video.google.com/videoplay
Valerie Hunt Ph.D.: www.bioenergyfields.org/index.asp
Water: www.holisticnetworker.com/messages/
Yantras: www.salagram.net/sstp-yantras.html
Zuper Psychics: video.google.com/videoplay
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Re: FEAR and CONSPIRACY not equal to 2012!
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 2:59 PM"Nearly all of it is conspiratorial with virtually no information about 2012. Not even a reference."
The conspirators are well aware of 2012. Its part of the plan... We talk about 2012 from time to time, but there isnt much new information regarding the subject. I think all roads lead to the 2012 singularity, so pretty much anything is fair game.
"Is this a crowd interested in enriching their lives or furthering fear and uncertainty? "
I'm not encouraging fear, just attempting to gain and spread awareness. As far as uncerntainty? Well no one knows what 2012 has in store for us, soo.....
"If there's truly fear, discuss the fear. "
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Fri, July 25, 2008 - 4:05 PM"The conspirators are well aware of 2012."
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Fri, July 25, 2008 - 4:07 PM"Of course they are, being aware of and in control of everything. "
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Re: FEAR and CONSPIRACY not equal to 2012!
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 4:27 PMthe truth is that 2012 was added into the calendar by satanists.. prior to 1994 we were going to jump straight from 2011 to 2013...
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Fri, July 25, 2008 - 5:38 PM"the truth is that 2012 was added into the calendar by satanists.. prior to 1994 we were going to jump straight from 2011 to 2013..."
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Fri, July 25, 2008 - 5:40 PMhehe.. I couldn't possibly, that would just be too silly..
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Fri, July 25, 2008 - 5:57 PM"hehe.. I couldn't possibly, that would just be too silly."
sounds a bit "silly" from thee get go, korse there R those who feel a global awakening iz "silly idea"....
and eye N know weigh gonna sit hear and D bate "evidence" kuz yore mined iz set and eye guess sew iz mine until eye am shown otherwise......
eye was just cure E us az 2 may bee a short Re: sponse, tho a Re: sponse nun thee less, otherwise yore Re: sponse az it stands iz just gonna have others ass king sew if what U say iz actually true, woodnt U wanna assist people N hear ring that witch U have 2 say i.e. 2012 B ing N serted via satanists and thee jump from 2011-2013? kuz eye know ov certain "jump" effex that have and will occur, a main one B ing at thee peak ov thee "ascension wavespell" az sum kall it, much like a wave N an ocean......
n e weigh, was just kure E us az 2 yore N put further than "oh, that wood bee silly"......
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Re: LOL
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 6:19 PMBedouin, they could shift back to the 13 month calendar, accumulate all of the leap year days that have been lost, reinsert them thus forcing us forward in time so that we miss 2012 altogether or at least the juicy bits 'round Christmas time!
Maybe it's already occurred and we don't know it? I had an itch that I couldn't scratch for a week NOW! What better reason to read Eckart Tolle! Hehehe -
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Fri, July 25, 2008 - 7:17 PMMaybe it's already occurred and we don't know it? I had an itch that I couldn't scratch for a week NOW! What better reason to read Eckart Tolle! Hehehe
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yes that would be good.
much of what he has to say is christian based.
it's very enlightening.. his take on what Jesus really meant about things.
the true nature.
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Re: LOL
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 7:19 PM
"Maybe it's already occurred and we don't know it?"
have herd that one B4, tho eye tend 2 feel tiz knot thee kase........may B people wish that were thee kase 4 vary us reasons
" I had an itch that I couldn't scratch for a weak NOW!"
w0w..........eye'd go sea a doktor about that rite NOW
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Fri, July 25, 2008 - 7:20 PMdju: i am interested your link page; will be interesting to see what maybe i have not seen before
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Fri, July 25, 2008 - 7:25 PMhow many have junk drawers?
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Fri, July 25, 2008 - 8:33 PMimpressive link page
a good collection of essene writings
takes too long to watch/listen vids
most amazing, but without the color not as impressive
are the solar drawings...connecting the dots
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Re: FEAR and CONSPIRACY not equal to 2012!
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 10:46 PMOm Mani Padme Hum
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Re: FEAR and CONSPIRACY not equal to 2012!
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 11:44 PMof course it's a conspiracy we are discussing here together... a conspiracy of you, me, we, ourselves and our highersElves.
so bedouin.... all this talk of;
>>>"tiz M possible 2 "vaild8" 2days societal lifestyles and modalities while those weighz R whats killing thee planet"....
how does this sit with your choice to eat dead animal flesh?
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Sat, July 26, 2008 - 12:29 AM
"how does this sit with your choice to eat dead animal flesh? "
knot very well quite honestly......
however when eye eat what universe provides, B ing an "opportuni-voure" iz theme 4 thee day.....
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Sat, July 26, 2008 - 1:54 AM>>I am deeply opposed to those that have deceived and am urging this site to LEARN and discuss your findings, rather than minimize the subject into fleeting opinions about other people efforts. Do the work and make miracles happen!<<
yeah, i hear ya J'uha....
and i would also add this one to the list as well:
www.drunvalo.net/
this is the guy who wrote the book about the Flower of Life, etc....and now his theories on the "kundalini rising" from the earth surrounding the year 2012 are pretty exciting......well, it resonates with me, that's all i can say!
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Sun, July 27, 2008 - 2:04 PM>>I am deeply opposed to those that have deceived and am urging this site to LEARN and discuss your findings, rather than minimize the subject into fleeting opinions about other people efforts. Do the work and make miracles happen!<<
yeah, i hear ya J'uha....
>Bedouin, I tell that to whomever it resonates with. Did I say simple? Is E-Mc2 simple? Must the words be excessive in order to imply >complexity? Your insecurities are showing!
last line iz prime example ov that witch YOU say we shoodnt dew......eye did N know weigh N sult U, nor was attempting 2, if U sumhow felt that eye was........az 2 thee rest ov that state mint? again seam 2 have missed a point eye was merely attempting 2 bring 2 light.....
"The picture of our lives exceeds the birth / death cycle, and our experiences are our teachers. Once learned, we move forward and we expand. If that's bogus to you then that is where you are!"
thats knot what eye was saying either and kan bee just az frustrating 2 try and diskuss stuff when all we dew iz get each other all riled up and N sults and name kalling goes N2 affekt
>For the record, you seemed to have sidestepped 'reality' in your own way. I detect nothing uniquely privileged about yourself to justify >judgementalism.
4 thee rekord, what U D tekt iz yore pre koncieved noshun ov what eye may bee like, there4 judging me 4 judging thee when all eye and otherz have ben dew wing iz attempting 2 point out thee kommon D sepshuns and programz that have ben N grained and R attempting 2 konvey such data with az little "M pakt" az possible.......we arent talking about an N dividuals personal issues hear, we're speeking ov an 0verall N grained psyche az a whole, with ov korse men E variables yet certain main kondishunningz nun thee less.....
eye didnt feel like eye was judging U, and alot ov what eye am seaing with N theze 4rum iz slight misunderstandingz, sum moor sirius Re: guarding thee bigger pikture, however misunderstandingz, N sults, and arguing........tiz Y eye have stayed a weigh from this and other tribez on this site......
then Re: scently was drawn back hear........
well, its ben swell butt thee swelling just went down.......
pulling back
Re: routing efforts....
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Today is harvest day... But to the Carrots, It is Genocide...
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 10:01 AMDavid, are you saying that Plants are not Alive? Do you eat them after you kill them... Or while they are still ripe with life force for you body to devour? Do you think Plants do not have Spirits or Consciousness? OR, Do you think a Wolf is Evil? How about a Bear? Bears are Omnivore/Opportunivore They live mostly on nuts and Berries... But during Salmon Spawn... They are bloody and wasteful killing machines...Or, if they find a fresh Carcass, They will eat it... Life Feeds on Life... Period... What are you an Oxyitarian?... BS.. Do You live on Pure Prana? I doubt it... SO... Instead of judging others for what they do to barley survive... Maybe go out an cook some nice Vegan Meals for these people that are Forced to eat Dead Animal Carcass... IF that was all there was to eat? Would you starve? I doubt it... I bet you would eat Human if that was the only Option... I know I would... BTW I am an Organic Vegan... I grow most of my own food... and only buy from Local Mom/Pop shops that buy from local farmers... Judge not, least you be Judged... IMHO being a Judgmental Hater, is far worse than being a Meat Eater... -
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Tue, July 29, 2008 - 1:03 PMManjo, wow?
lay off the organic beer or something
i used to like slice and dice,
but now
when push comes to shove
i have been here, and i have been there
but as long as i have been on internet,
and studying for longer than most here are old,
credit should never be due, only paid...
this is one of most brilliant, omnipre posts/writings i
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old chinese proverb: saying thanx cheapens the ...
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Tue, July 29, 2008 - 11:22 PMhi Manjushri, these are kinda oldschool questions you've asked but... here ya go
>>>"are you saying that Plants are not Alive?"
no i am not saying this.
>>>"Do you eat them after you kill them.. Or while they are still ripe with life force for you body to devour?"
i do often cook them and admit that this is not optimal for my body. i would love them to always be ripe with life force for my body.
>>>"Do you think Plants do not have Spirits or Consciousness?"
they appear to be spirit to me. i don't observe outward signs of consciousness as i understand consciousness. and since they don't go anywhere and appear ripe for the taking. i enjoy them as being what the universe is providing.
>>>"Do you think a Wolf is Evil?"
evil? as in unwholsome? no. and i don't often observe any other animals acting in unwholesome ways.
incarcerating, inflicting pain, poisoning, violating and taking the life of animals which show signs of not wanting this feels kinda evil. if you consume dead animal flesh in the current biological state of this Earth you are contributing to the disharmonic energies abound.
and i hope that in addition to being such an amazing brother of Light here to steady our growth... bedouin and anyone else who eat dead animals might consider what a bad example you are setting and you should know this... as an agent of LightLoving Beings from ALL System Stars.
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Re: FEAR and CONSPIRACY not equal to 2012!
Sat, July 26, 2008 - 5:50 AMHere's an interesting series of youtube vids, this is part 8.5
they run 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 8.5, 9 odd numbering but anyway..
8.5:
www.youtube.com/watch
The bit I thought would be of interest starts at about 2:00 min
The guy has some interesting observations about the meaning of the 13 month astrological calendar, ophuchus (the 'missing' sign)
and how that ties into the Ouroborus, Leviathan, Galactic Central point, etc ....alot of stuff.
He talks from a particular religious standpoint about some things, but the info apart from that is fascinating. The title is a bit OOooErrr! lol :-) -
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Sun, July 27, 2008 - 11:21 AM"Here's an interesting series of youtube vids..."
You can find David Flynn's entire video on Google. The Doomsday Clock is a translation of a title without any armageddon like overtones. This video is one of the most important I have seen and Flynn is incredibly brilliant and clear. Recommended to all.
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Sat, July 26, 2008 - 5:50 PMJ'uha is right, 2012 is not about fear or conspiracy.
It is about chasing delusions that the end of an ancient calendar or a "galactic alignment" will change things. It is about the stupid illusion that everyone, including the TV-beer-hockey-cunt-truck minded braindead zombies will miraculously "wake up" in the 5th dimension and suddenly fall into a global grouphug.
It is also about the great idea, that we don't need to take responsibility, because, anyhow, the Mayan Calendar ends, the Aliens are coming and the next Golden Age is dawning- want it or not. No need to study, to work, to search or to think. Lay back, light up your joint and the Nirvana is instant!
Moreover, the most important aspect is that this whole thing is happening "out there". In the stars, in the Galaxy, over the Universe.
I think, this whole thing is happening "in here". In our consciousness, our minds, our egos and in very rare cases in our Selves. -
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Sat, July 26, 2008 - 6:31 PM> Lay back, light up your joint and the Nirvana is instant!
in my experience joints will not give you a Nirvana permanent resident visa, neither will a shroom or anything else one could ingest or smoke.
some say selfless service, self study, and LOVE will do the trick ... im working on it, however is a lot easier said than done
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Sat, July 26, 2008 - 7:46 PM"I think, this whole thing is happening, "in here". In our consciousness, our minds, our egos and in very rare cases in our Selves."
It is this very fact, the only 'real' fact, that compels me to think that even if 2012 is bogus, the effort being made to update our relationship to the eternal is the nature of now. If it were not it would not be happening.
Is is this fact that compels me to say that we are writing the story though not by adding more information, rather getting antiquated beliefs out of the way.
It appears that events inform us and occur within a certain corpus of control but where is the control panel? It is not the brain, it is not the body and it is not emotion. When we occasionally peak at the superhuman coordination of events, this provides evidence that we form part of a projection we call reality. We are not the source but a filter delimiting one timeline. We co-exist on the other timelines.
2012 it seems is a time of non resistance wherein expansion may occur. Science confirms the electromagnetic prevailing changes so in the realm of polarity science, there is no doubt.
The doubts are personal, spiritual and metaphysical necessarily because choice and free will is involved. An oracle cannot tell you what is going to occur only the nature of the choice that you will eventually confront.
Blind faith is what is asked of us. If reality is necessarily a phenomenal reality, despite the fact that DNA is an antenna for cosmic light and the constitution of matter is pure energy, for those that prefer a material description, this is a choice and they are indeed correct. We make up our mind and God agrees!
The conspiracy chatter is an extraordinary distraction and holds the lower vibration! If you do not like what you are experiencing, change your mind! -
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Sat, July 26, 2008 - 9:12 PM"If you do not like what you are experiencing, change your mind!"
yeah, tell THAT 2 thee children and otherz B ing killed oar watching otherz killed daily, while ameriKKKa sits N its komfort zones, unless yer a street person who chose 2 knot submit 2 societal rulez and konformity, thrown 2 thee kurb, etc, and am shore they dont appreciate how they R treated, and merely "changing their mined" duznt help, knot N thee least, unless one changes onez mined about living N horrifik kondishuns konvincing thyself, "oh, it aint that bad.......goin hungry getting treated like less than hue man, etc....yeah, dont like it, just change yore mined.....
if it were only that simple
and hear komes sum knew age summation about how it iz that simple.....
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Sun, July 27, 2008 - 11:28 AM"and hear komes sum knew age summation about how it iz that simple....."
Bedouin, I tell that to whomever it resonates with. Did I say simple? Is E-Mc2 simple? Must the words be excessive in order to imply complexity? Your insecurities are showing!
The picture of our lives exceeds the birth / death cycle, and our experiences are our teachers. Once learned, we move forward and we expand. If that's bogus to you then that is where you are!
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Sun, July 27, 2008 - 11:42 AMre: CLEAN BEFORE CLEAR
beedo, quit the partake in filthy flesh
dju: do we get a link?
what, yu hope us brain'dead' will do that for...
ourselves?
people deem spirituals of the future as much as the past
yet they cannot take care...
of their own health
yet, PURE health is only part, of the
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Sun, July 27, 2008 - 12:40 PM
"Bedouin, I tell that to whomever it resonates with. Did I say simple? Is E-Mc2 simple? Must the words be excessive in order to imply complexity? Your insecurities are showing!"
haz nothing 2 dew with "N sekurities" mate........was just saying what eye felt about how alot ov knew agers use such "profound talk" when there may just bee moor 2 thee scenario thatn meets thee "philisphikal/theoretikal" statemints......nuthing moor and nuthing less
"The picture of our lives exceeds the birth / death cycle, and our experiences are our teachers. Once learned, we move forward and we expand. If that's bogus to you then that is where you are!"
eye didnt say that was bogus....U seamed 2 have missed m'eye point......hhmm
"For the record, you seemed to have sidestepped 'reality' in your own way. I detect nothing uniquely privileged about yourself to justify judgementalism."
LOL.....how kum when sumone "judges me", its ok, yet when eye state what eye feel iz a mere obzervayshun eye am accused ov "judging", nor dew eye feel sum sort ov "unique privilege" other than having thee assistance 2 B able 2 "side track" thee standard weigh ov routine job slave scenario sew az 2 werk on konnekting with others who R really wanting 2 dew sumthing other than sit on this site and babble and D bate and kritisize endlessly.......
if U notice over thee years eye havent ben very aktive on 2012 tribe.....hear and there, tho nothing konstant.....
and now eye know even moor sew Y eye have Re: frained from entering diskushuns hear.......
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Sun, July 27, 2008 - 2:52 PMJ'uha,
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Sun, July 27, 2008 - 3:11 PM
"If you don't like feeling judged, change your mind!"
siriusly ;;>)))
and on with thee show
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Sun, July 27, 2008 - 6:27 PM>Bee Doe no win!
LOL....U crack yoreself up dont ya mate
and sted E az we, um......eye 4got ;;>)))
rhymes with GO
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 1:24 PMSarcasm or advice?
If you care to discover, I certainly practice what I say.
Thanks for the reminder.
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Re: FEAR and CONSPIRACY not equal to 2012!
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 1:31 PMA bit of both, lol.
Hey, I'm human...well sometimes OXO
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Sun, July 27, 2008 - 10:50 PMCaptn Bedouin Star Walker expressed:
<< yeah, tell THAT 2 thee children and otherz B ing killed oar watching
otherz killed daily, while ameriKKKa sits N its komfort zones >>
That's the way of it. That's what's on the human menu ....
Talking Sense, and Acting as though the World is One.
People, here and other places, say, "We're All One"; and
then they stay in their Comfort Zone and look after Number One.
Maybe that's what 'We Are All One' means to them:
"If I look out for Number One, the whole will be OK".
Wow .... that's a stretch of the imagination.
~~~ The New World Order, versus, The 2012 Dream Plan ~~~
We all want a maginficent world in 2012, but unfortunately the New World Order and Negative Aliens (the Greys, doing all that abducting thing, wanting a low-oxygen atmosphere: fine and dandy for them!) know of the '2012' hopes; and it looks like, quite a few years ago, they hatched plans to keep us in Prison Camp Earth.
If we want a good time in 2012, we're going to have to do things to make it happen.
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Sun, July 27, 2008 - 11:13 PMTELL'EM LIKE IT IZ MATE.......siriusly
>People, here and other places, say, "We're All One"; and
>then they stay in their Comfort Zone and look after Number One.
>Maybe that's what 'We Are All One' means to them:
>"If I look out for Number One, the whole will be OK".
>Wow .... that's a stretch of the imagination.
~~~ The New World Order, versus, The 2012 Dream Plan ~~~
We all want a maginficent world in 2012, but unfortunately the New World Order and Negative Aliens (the Greys, doing all that abducting thing, wanting a low-oxygen atmosphere: fine and dandy for them!) know of the '2012' hopes; and it looks like, quite a few years ago, they hatched plans to keep us in Prison Camp Earth.
If we want a good time in 2012, we're going to have to do things to make it happen.
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BING GO
BING GO
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 2:17 AMTo the last two posts, to each their own regarding a measure of reality, but don't try the 'experience' or 'pain and suffering' = reality card with me. I will call your bluff!
We do not know each other and neither of you know what I do, who I am, what I have experienced, how I spend my time, how I love, how I express my love, nor the ground or clouds that I walk on. For this reason, to assign labels such a 'New Age' to attach a pseudoscientific label to discredit or defame in a way that serves your own sense of service and reality, or the suffering children who cannot resolve their own plight, is passing judgement. And then to deny that it is judgemental! You would benefit from a belief upgrade IMO!
I am wondering if the same children you dangle as evidence are mere poor little bastards at the end of the day?
It is very very clear to all but a few on this site that my posts are referring to an esoteric domain of the spirit and its relationship to material experiences. It's my informed opinion that these both exist simultaneously and the most effective input is from the heart which sometimes includes the back and hands. I approach my understanding from several angles at once and this language captures the totality of my particular viewpoint more completely than others (science or empiricism for example).
I have discovered over the years that those that have taken the time and committed energy to finding fault in my contributions, prefer words that describe pictures or scientific processes but it further has been my experiences that this satisfies the ego but NOT THE PROBLEMS!
Further, it is my opinion that you confuse pain and suffering with nowness! You are confused by your own eyes! It is impossible for the spirit to grow as long as the comprehension is rooted in fear and many pictures are fearful.
If you want to swap horror stories and knowledge of the NWO and any other bull***t, I will merely tell you that you are feeling sorry for yourself and are afraid to paint a beautiful picture. Newsflash, we all are afraid or doiubtful, but do it anyway! Isn't that the real challenge of life? To create the miraculous even when there is no reason to try!
Your beloved science, that I sense I am far better equipped to recite than my foul weathered friends, has shown even us mortals that the scientist's thoughts affect the results. Quantum (based on the word quanta or packet of light - aka photon) is based on this empirical perception and precept! That light energy informs the cellular and intracellular world which bursts forth into material reality in a perpetually updating matrix of expression. Einstein denied this and considers it the greatest error of his career! Bull***t. Einstein's success was based on certain agreements to define a 'relative' world. The universals were not to be disclosed! Doubt me, read the EUM below. Pythagoras celebrated universality and this is quickly becoming central to a re-emerging new paradigm.
We move in the direction of mind and we regulate our perceptions through emotions. Please elaborate how and why this is false and I provide evidence by your own standards! This is not my opinion! The oldest cultures on Earth keep things simple because they understand universals are general until made specific by the mind. Check out the multiple basketball scene metaphor with Marly Matlin in What the Bleep (Part I) if you are unfamiliar.
We move in the direction of mind my point being that if you focus (with head and heart by believing yourself to be correct) on your idea and feeling of nowness, what you will get is more nowness. If you focus on war you get war. If you focus on love you get love. Not instantly, but you alter the vibe of the magnet alchemically.
"We cannot create solutions using the same thinking that created the problems." - Ben Franklin
The universal assumption that we all experience phenomena in the same way must stop! This is what "We are writing the story" means. Each has their own version in a fractal universe. We are all at different levels of awareness and spiritual growth and we all reflect a part of ourselves back to ourselves through the people we meet. If you do not see this it is my opinion that your views are seeking validating through the actions and thoughts of others by making effort to change others, for, why else to judge? That's mental colonialism! Anti-establishment is the other side of the NWO coin! I recommend that you operate in the now but see only the ideal. That vibe changes life FOR REAL! Feed real perfection into the matrix! We are writing the story.
If your story is miserable and you get this, teach yourself and then teach others the same while helping them with what they need right now! See the big picture including the source...not just the current results. Your theory is a band-aid that focuses on the plight rather than the possibility in my opinion! See both sides always to the best of your ability!
"Life only demands from you the strength you possess. Only one feat is possible - not to have run away." - Dag Hammarskjold
"We all want a maginficent world in 2012..." No you don't or you would aspire to understand what I am saying and consider the possibility rather than judge. For the record, judge all you wish, it's your limits not mine. I am a reflection and merely a possibility, remember? This is the best we can offer each other for now. Oneness means universal reflection via emotional magnetism, not an inane and absurd group hug! It's not called the universe for nothing!
While your hemming and hawing you might like to check out the Electrical Universe Model (EUM) theory. This posits quite convincingly that the sun is NOT a thermonuclear reactor. The implications suggest that the speed of light is not a barrier and that the age of the current universe may not exceed about 6,000 years old! Interesting. The Bible would agree (6 - 1000 year days = Creation) as well the Precession theory would agree stating that the quarter points of the Great Cross, the Rose or, if you prefer, the Rosecrux or Rosicrucian is 25,920 / 4 = 6,480 years at which time life and culture seems to have 'sprung' into existence. Start watching at about 20:00 if interested - video.google.com/videoplay This is science talking, not me! One source of the EUM... plasmascience.net/tpu/TheUniverse.html
Lastly, maybe you both might wish to be thankful for another perspective on a difficult subject rather than to advise me to get real and tune into the reality (LIKE IT IZ). Please! You might be correct, or not! Your ego owns you if you think you are right, and the NWO owns your ego no matter how you appear or what you think you are if you believe this. It's that simple! I will present convincingly what my heart tells me is so and humbly make adjustments as I understand differently, as reality changes with ever widening awareness.
My rant is about the possibility of a place where one can be specific and tolerant at the same time. Yours is a belief system and not a truth and that means it's a choice. Take responsibility for your own thought process and not some damned illusion that giving metal cans of food to the poor or any other such service a responsible human make. I will back up any of my claims in any language necessary including my actions which are my own business and karma, but frankly it's sad that a place like Tribe contains so much posturing! -
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 2:32 AMTake responsibility for your own thought process and not some damned illusion that giving metal cans of food to the poor or any other such service a responsible human make."
fun E how thingz get sew mis N terpreted........knot really funn E sew much az sad.......
"but frankly it's sad that a place like Tribe contains so much posturing!"
yes, we have noticed.......
2 thee point ov wonder ring Y eye even bother 2 make certain points on hear.....meaning tribe.net.......
N E weigh.......
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 2:40 AMYou pick the points that serve your argument and ignore the rest as well find the points humorous. Very sad indeed. We can't even find a middle ground! I assume you skimmed!
OK, I agree with everything you think and feel Bedouin. Now your world is perfect eh?
Why bother to make points? The effort is my love. A git for those who may be interested.
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 2:46 AM>"You pick the points that serve your argument and ignore the rest as well find the points humorous. Very sad indeed. We can't even find a middle ground! I assume you skimmed!
LOL.....think what U will mate.....and az U were psoting this eye was posting a quote from yore post that eye agree with, sew pleeze, ease up mate.....
eye just didnt feel like reeding such a long post........from thee start eye scents yore angst, there4 had know D zire 2 kontinue reeding........skimmed it, just didnt reed word 4 word.....
"N E weigh....... " Yeah you are right, Whatever? It's only reality and Creation we're talking about. Pass the chips!
cheerz mate
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 2:42 AM>"We cannot create solutions using the same thinking that created the problems."
agreed.......however hue manity iz sew kondishuned 2 old weighz ov think king that men E knew weighz R either A) shut down kuz it wood bring true liberayshun on a whole, oar B) turn it N2 a money may king skeme......
tiz Y "the secret" was such a krok......
eye didnt reed all yore rant mate, just skimmed back over it and saw thee above quote that N deed iz sew true.....
however, eye personally was knot kalling U "a knew ager"....was using thee general term 2 D skribe a general scenario.....if eye was using sumthing U sed az an example 2 point this out, thats knot me kalling U knew age........sew dont take it sew personally ....
guess eye havent red enuff books 2 B kome sew N lightened ;;>)))
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 3:30 AMI don't take anything personally. I take this beautiful life siriusly and I defend her honor!
When you predict that the next thing I am going to say is going to be a New Age justification, I would say that is calling my innards New Age by any measure.
If I must show, then I approach the evidence from multiple angles as well state my bias without which assumption of some universal is usually made.
Why would there be angst? Did you present something that might compel a reaction? LOL
"tiz Y "the secret" was such a krok....." There you go again! The Secret was powerful for the Oprah audience many of whom had never investigated the idea. Though I wish the idea had been given away to better demonstrate it's true effect, rather than earning millions for the author(s), it has it's place and audience. It's very useful to help raise the vibe of many people!
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 7:27 AMWe ARE All One!
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what some of us still remember
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 11:38 AMHere is a video that seems to illustrate what I have come to know through my own experiences, before all this new age hype...
www.youtube.com/watch
Sadly Anything in 3d is subject to distortion, hence this old wisdom nowadays is ready to order, package, and ship to cater to the sleeping masses.
I'm not saying all we need to do is sit around and think happy thoughts. Our thoughts aren't impotent, and just because we are used to physically talking and acting to manipulate physical reality, it doesn't mean the higher realms accessed and guided by mind make no impact on this reality.
Yes there are movers and shakers, and I respect those who have this gift.
But don't forget our other gifts, the ones we used to create this reality in the first place, that we are now ready to disown due to all the hysteria.
I know a lot of people think its bullshite since, that's the trend right now. It passes through one ear and out the next, but that is just their role. Everyone is playing a role in this. I respect that. I guess the secret did its job in distorting this wisdom, since many deny our divine abilities to "manifest" our reality... Whether individual, or collective.
Yes we are all one... But are we really in this together ? I don' think so. I think everyone has their own path. Everyone has their individual mission. Some came from the one and need separation. Some are sick of separation and want to go home. Some came to help the ones who want out. Some want to step up. Some want to step down. Some are just cruising. Supposedly we are in a harvesting cycle, so many are ready to step up at the same time... But respect the indivdual's wishes, don't just lump them into some box.
I notice that the very people who are trying to get people to come together are unintentionally creating division by categorizing others.
Many turn their brain off, at the drop of "you created this reality".
That's just one way of saying it. I like "we created this"...or... "we co-created this" ...or..."we agreed to this, so we could play, and we chose to forget".
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 1:34 PM"Yes we are all one... But are we really in this together ? I don' think so. I think everyone has their own path. "
We all have our own path indeed allilusory. We have our own interpretations too. Consensus aids a civilized world but confuses the hero's journey that we all must take.
The fractal model in science I think characterizes this apparent paradox where every time you zoom in or out you get the same pattern to infinity. I think as well that at different scales of reality we become undifferentiated. Mostly I think that no matter who we confront or why, it is critical to see ourselves in the other person if only to compel compassion. The illusion of separation (the basis of fear) otherwise keeps us emotionally right where we are. -
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 1:58 PM>"Yes we are all one... But are we really in this together ? I don' think so. I think everyone has their own path. "
"Human beings must
come together in support of life. At present, each person
and group is going his or her own way. There is hope
if people can come together and unite."
"The new race of humans will begin to design their new reality of life on this planet as they intended it to be when they first came here from the Stars."
www.worldgathering.net/
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 2:22 PM>>"Yes we are all one... But are we really in this together ? I don' think so. I think everyone has their own path. "
"Human beings must
come together in support of life. At present, each person
and group is going his or her own way. There is hope
if people can come together and unite."
"The new race of humans will begin to design their new reality of life on this planet as they intended it to be when they first came here from the Stars."
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Okay, I might have said it wrong way, but you guys know what I mean, right?
We are all supposed to be together, but everyone has their own spiritual path.
If I wanted to just be alone, then I wouldn't be here.
I remember several scenarios of getting the chance to leave, but I kept returning "for the others".
Anyone can do whatever they want, really, but I guess it takes real maturity to come together.
I'm just really sick of earth. I don't think 3d will ever be worry free. ever. Because lights here will always cast shadows.
This is why I'm more on the ascension camp.
If this planet still has 3d after this 2012 hype, then I don't want any parts of it, unless I'm totally conscious in 5d or 6d and I can just fly my 3d body around like a crash test dummy. -
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 2:31 PM
>Okay, I might have said it wrong way, but you guys know what I mean, right?
know, tho willing 2.......
"We are all supposed to be together, but everyone has their own spiritual path."
agreed
"If I wanted to just be alone, then I wouldn't be here.
true that ;;>)))
I remember several scenarios of getting the chance to leave, but I kept returning "for the others".
key phrase, 4 thee otherz
Anyone can do whatever they want, really, but I guess it takes real maturity to come together.
X Q'z me? louder pleaze?
IT TAKES REAL MATURITY TO COME TOGETHER
wow....what a koncept
"I'm just really sick of earth."
and theres me 1st klue
"I don't think 3d will ever be worry free. ever. Because lights here will always cast shadows."
hhhmmm......well, kall me 0verly optimistik however eye've scene theze type scenarios "mature" N2 full "kozmik adult hood", and yes, az there iz alwayz thee "yen and yang", there will alwayz bee shadows and challenges, just from much "easier" pozishun......
"This is why I'm more on the ascension camp."
AH....thee "eskape pod".........
sea this one all 2 often, and iz Y thee "ascension" data haz az well B kome "distorted".........oh its deep, tho simple,
"If this planet still has 3d after this 2012 hype, then I don't want any parts of it, unless I'm totally conscious in 5d or 6d and I can just fly my 3d body around like a crash test dummy."
ok.......however eye have a "feelin" thats N deed knot thee kase
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 2:29 PM"Mostly I think that no matter who we confront or why, it is critical to see ourselves in the other person if only to compel compassion."
That's true, juha.
And many humans are capable of that.
But always be on the look out for the ones who take advantage of said person's compassion.
I have an extreme lack of boundaries issue that has been untamed most of my life. And I can say this quality has often been detrimental for me.
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 3:01 PM"But always be on the look out for the ones who take advantage of said person's compassion."
I have been a repeat victim of the hunter's and gatherer's and warned that I give my power away. Instead of recoiling I decided to give more.....More....MORE! I experience abundance in various ways and am practicing how to achieve the same in any and all ways...always!
When there is no reason to proceed...this is why it's called Faith! You must believe in yourself which is incredibly hard to do at times. It is my wish for our 'coming together' to be based on this sort of support and my motivation to challenge judgments. Though I wish to respond to sarcastic detractors with four letter words that don't rhyme with love, I resist and am all the better for it. Eventually, you will feel only to roar at which time you demonstrate to others that it's possible. Never give up!
We must pass only one true test in life and that is the one we are giving ourself. There is no higher sense of self-responsibility than this.
Are we a physical body or a light body? Both, goooood answer!
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Re: LOL
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 12:59 PMsew this iz where eye'm supposed 2 say "oh j'uha, U R sew rite.....thank U 4 show wing me thee light oh gr8 one......."
LOL.......siriusly tho
pulling back N stead ov kontinual D bate
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 1:22 PMWhy does status matter? If ol' JC shows up, we'll chat and I might not agree with every point!
If I say something useful to you, use it. If not, don't. Keep it as simple as possible. Explain when you feel it helps.
I try not to use the word supposed to. I read that there is no word for this in the various African languages.
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 2:10 PMeye sed nothing about "status" and only thing that matterz about status iz that we shake thee heck out ov thee kurrent status quo with love, kompashun, pashun, etc, and help 2 Re: store balance........eye really feel thats knot ass king 2 much......tho may bee it iz
and az 4 knot using thee werd "suppose"....eye fully agree, and az well feel there R men E werdz we R programmed 2 use that R subtle "dis eases" know one seamz 2 notice.....
like thee werdz "thank u" oar "yore welkome" oar "please", az N men E tribez and kultures these R just understood.....
and thee use ov thee konstant "i'm sorry"....eye tell people, know yer know "sorry", may bee STARRY ;;>)))
sumone was telling me ov E-prime speek, oar sumthing like that........how its about Re: moving much ov daily speek, like "kant", "dont", etc........fey and eye praktice this and iz most inner resting 2 sea how truly diffikult it iz on a daily basis during thee most trivial ov konversayshuns trying 2 Re: move certain werdz and its like thee language iz rigged sumhow 2 keep us "N thee loop".....thee timeloop that iz.......this iz alot ov Y eye started riting az eye dew.......
thee initial reason eye was drawn 2 this thread iz that eye feel that N deed "fear" iz knot (sea, its trick E) part ov N E scenario, 2012 oar otherwise, and that there haz ben vary us main "konspira sees" having occured and still occur ring where N thee populayshun iz still B ing manipulated and kant even see it tho men E feel they kan oar that it duznt matter, meanwhile thee planet itself and men E N habit ants R dis eased and kood easily bee remedied if people got "off their own trips" and truly pulled 2gether....
butt hey, who am eye 2 say eh?
star E 4 thee rant mate......
and am knot hear 2 D bate.....
am moor than willing 2 diskuss and eye know emoshuns run high and when eye feel sumone iz neg8ing what eye oar sumone sez with sum form ov "knew age" (and know eye am knot kalling YOU knew age per say) theory/philosophy that thee person iz sew D termined iz "thee ultimate truth" when N deed all thee data "learned" hear, "knew age" and otherwise, haz ben highly tampered with.....know matter how "pure" it feelz.......
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 3:10 PM"eye sed nothing about "status" and only thing that matterz about status iz that we shake thee heck out ov thee kurrent status quo"
I read you comment about, this is where you are supposed to say....as either derogatory or celebratory based on something I said previously. I am given an objective status that can then be measured or judged. From my perspective, no response required.
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 3:26 PM"Telepathy will make it all alot easier."
we're knot az telepathetik az they want us 2 think.......hehehe
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 3:36 PMmaybe we aren't......not yet anyway, but I do remember when I was a baby and I was trying to do it , and someone (mentally) saying something like "that isn't going to work in this situation"....
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 3:51 PMI think we're more radio-pathic than tele-pathic in this situation.... broadcasting and receiving somewhat at unawares and out-of-direct context except in Episodic-crucial or otherwise important surreptitiousness. It's all muddied by all the garbage that's on the mindwaves.... so you've got to keep the sending-receiving under close-scrutiny to avoid letting in unwanted things that pop up like psychic-spamming and predatorial-trolling.
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no more hiding
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 4:08 PMspeaking of telepathy...
Yeah, we are all using keyboards... But people need to pay attention to their intentions when they type because that comes across in the message that they post, whether they are conscious of it or not.
I know there's a few here that know exactly what I'm talking about. And there are also quite a few who think that they can hide behind their keyboard. I have noticed that sometimes people claim to be speaking out of love, while their heart is expressing very differently. Very common in tribe is speaking out of a need to intellectually dominate.
Its really funny, actually.
I'm not sure if its just certain people, or if its a global thing, but
Intentions are transparent, peeps.
Even if you don't have any pictures of yourself on your profile or avatar.
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Re: no more hiding
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 4:12 PMtelepathy is normal everyday reality for some... and has been for a long time.
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 5:03 PM>But people need to pay attention to their intentions when they type because that comes across in the message that they post, whether they are >conscious of it or not.
yes, and hear we have 2 examples......
>Join a star crew and go around telling people they are in denial for believing in manifestation?
>Otherwise I would take a hike and roam the world as a psy hippie.
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 5:13 PMu sea, its like this.......when eye saw thee kommentary from allilusory eye didnt Re: kall know wing this person however they seam 2 know me, tho it kood bee just over tribe az eye dew knot know who this all illusory person iz...may bee allilusory only nose me via tribe........either weigh people on tribe have thee opshun ov "mysterious persona"....hiding B hind thee profile........
and when eye saw sed kommentary, tho it was subtle, seamed rather "pointed" at m'eye self......
ok, on with thee show
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Re: know moor N sults either
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 5:15 PMhuh???
oh yeah, I actually meant what I said. The first one was a dart. Was i hiding my intention ?
Did I not say I sense you have good intentions , b?
And now you lash at me because you think my last comment was indirectly hinting at you.
"Otherwise I would take a hike and roam the world as a psy hippie."
I really meant that. As in I would like to do that.
It was not a slight intended for you, at all, b... just because that is your lifestyle. I envy your situation.
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Re: know moor N sults either
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 5:22 PMThis tribe and many others are clearly distorted by darkness.
And, no, I'm not an angel, and my intentions are not always good... if someone wants to take a cheap shot at that.
but I dont ever recall saying I was speaking out of love, while hatred was in my heart.
(nope, not talking about you, bedouin).
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 5:27 PM"Did I not say I sense you have good intentions , b?"
U did...AFTER U maid sum seamingly "judge mental" Re: marx
"And now you lash at me because you think my last comment was indirectly hinting at you. "
wasnt "lashing out" mate.......
just may king shore we R kleer on that witch we say.......
and eye probably woodnt have thought much ov it were it knot a reality that people get "jealous" ov thee lifestyle rather than understanding what drives men E ov us 2 live thee weigh we dew......
"N V us"?
then "let go" and join thee nomadik weigh.......hehe
cheerz allilusory, oar whoever U bee......
and a gr8ful day 2 all
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Re: know moor N sults either
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 5:37 PMlol.
sure.
"U did...AFTER U maid sum seamingly "judge mental" Re: marx "
Just returning in kind, that's all.
peace out, b.
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 6:31 PMi think we're alot more telepathic than we realize.
we have no idea what we're picking up on out there.
may well be attributing it to something all together different.
either we misread or as i have seen..
entities jumping in the middle of a conversation to influence it...
i don't discount anything anymore from the other side.
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Re: know moor N sults either
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 7:01 PM"entities jumping in the middle of a conversation to influence it... "
I have noticed this as well.
I wonder how many demons are fed by tribe threads?
the accuracy of "picking up" is an altogether different subject, we could talk about for weeks, mia.
but im sure you have your ways of knowing, right? A way of locking in on target.
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 7:48 PMthe accuracy of "picking up" is an altogether different subject, we could talk about for weeks, mia.
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Tue, July 29, 2008 - 12:25 AMwhy do we call it conspiracy theorists
but the government and such call them think tankers.
same thing..
once has a negative connotation and the other..
well, they're just dam smart
and getting paid too.
they also think of ways and terms to lable the little people who
think too much on their own.
we can't have them running around unsupervised.
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Tue, July 29, 2008 - 7:01 AMIt's the art of vampiric seduction.... it employs all the magnificent skills of the Right Creative Hemisphere of the brain .... But this is done At-the-service and Servitude of The Left Rational-Materialistically focused hemisphere of the Brain........ which is further turned upside down and backwards in servitude to the lower reptilian brain..... but all So Artfully cloaked by the skillful means of the highest mind-organ of the physical being... right brain---->>in subversion-enslaveto<< the primal.
The difference between a person in this state of consciousness, which we All are seduced into if we aren't Awake & Aware..... can be subtle, yet Unmistakable if we look beyond the sheer superficial.
The heart .... giving a high degree of control over to the heart energies may be key to putting one's complex head-consciousness back into alignment. I eat Raw Cacao for such purposes... because cooked chocolate has the chemistries all converted into a degradation that does not serve higher purposes so well... even though it can have some stimulating effects. Stimulation needs to be More than just Primal in effect. -
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Re: know moor N sults either
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 7:41 AMa few minutes ago i was sitting at the computer reading about armageddon, grinding cacao beans in a mortar and pestle, and picturing myself in a hypothetical rudimentary setting. weird :D
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Tue, July 29, 2008 - 8:12 AMYou have eaten raw cacao and it made you tired? There must be an underlying syndrome regarding the energies and how you are processing them in a 'normal' state. It could be due to the cleansing and the need for rest.... as raw cacao is not highly stimulating on a primal level, but at a heart and higher brain function level.
It doesn't take more than 1/2 teaspoon to a teaspoon to get effects. I tend towards a tablespoon, but I try to not do it every day since the effects are potent and the body needs time to readjust to higher levels of energy... as high energy will overstimulate you when you are living in a lower energy state. It takes time to move from low energetics up the ladder to stability with higher energetics as the norm. -
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Tue, July 29, 2008 - 8:23 AMyes i have. i was eating more than a 1/2 teaspoon. like candy perhaps.
maybe that was what it was.
i will have to try it again in moderation.
thanks for that wonderful information. you are a wealth of it.
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Tue, July 29, 2008 - 4:45 PMChicken zygotes? I used to raise chickens as a young child, and it led to me becoming vegetarian. Raw eggs might be Ok, except they are very high fat.... not so good to eat frequently. Free-range is Way better than storebought. I Will say that as a child I suffered through a Gross expulsion of SulPhur from my system.... which is 'of the essence' of egg protein,... a highly sulphuric, acidic protein. I can Still smell the incredibly foul stench of rotten sulphur that came out of my bowels at about age 5 in a bout of sickness... (which was Actually just the body doing housecleaning). Unbelievable. I took notice.
I know that chickens are thought to be an efficient garbage disposal, etc...... but I am Forever Done with animal husbandry.
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Tue, July 29, 2008 - 12:31 AMthe accuracy of "picking up" is an altogether different subject, we could talk about for weeks, mia. ;)
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sometimes it takes awhile to figure it out
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Re: know moor N sults either
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 7:27 PM"i think we're alot more telepathic than we realize. "
Thats what i was thinking....
"entities jumping in the middle of a conversation to influence it... "
guilty as charged.... =p lol
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 7:35 PM
"Just returning in kind, that's all. "
whatever U say mate
and now hears this
people.tribe.net/ize/blog/...25e2dd69a4
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 6:27 PM"Otherwise I would take a hike and roam the world as a psy hippie."
Something i always wanted to do... well roam, at least. But i went to school and now i owe for an education, am i better for it? Well i'm a wage slave to say the least. I imagine if i didnt owe the banks for my specialized 'knowlege' i might be able to drift along making wage for food and shelter as i go. Ah yes, i felt obliged to goto school for my 'parents sake'. Funny how i'm paying for it know. I dont know if i'm better or worse. was a good time, and it did challenge me to think in different ways and look at the world analytically and such... I was just a pup, and they told me i would make alot of money and pay it off after school. WTF?
So my advice about not getting into debt was based on my experiance, especially if your having romantic notions of freedom and travel.
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 6:33 PMi have some serious notions of freedom and travel too brad.
sell my home, everything... load up the dogs & cats and head to alaska.
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Tue, July 29, 2008 - 12:13 PMfunny, after all my invisible college years, i've had the nudge to return to the institution. however, its not due to anything my parents suggest, but from another calling. i don;t know exactly where it will go, i know that if i want to be the change i wish to see in the world, i'm gonna need some tools and better training for tomorrows big picture show. and, having kids (well, just one for me is plenty) really makes you want to present right reason for gaining alternative education. for me, the alternative is offered at institutions (looking at calpoly san luis obispo: program: . i live in in a permaculture area, where ecology, agriculture and architecture is what its about. i'm investigating alternatives, so if anyone has any really good input or ideas on how to take things from a put put place to really being integrally involved in making changes for a better world and future for us and our and the ones to come, let me know! there are grants available for serious takers and in reality as it is >now< there are many opportunities. we have to assume that we have to make it happen, i'm not waiting for invisible forces to make the changes, but to be the vehicle for the spirit to move through, consciously.
willing to walk the mile in my moccs, looks fun too!
sarc.calpoly.edu/index.html
www.7genfund.org/
so many things to do!!
i think people who want "formal"education should do it because they want it, not because they've been coaxed by parental ideologies. but its happened already for a good lot of people, i think thats one of the issues here, people aren't being fulfilled by their lifes work and the idea that they aren't free to choose, which is true to some degree, but rebellion or regret isn't the key, imo. im glad i rebelled about it, but now its time to get down and real about tomorrow with what i know is true (for me, not for you, but could be :) i don't know about making the big bucks, but a sustainable future seems pretty wealthy to me. just an injection, in regard to b-rads post. -
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Tue, July 29, 2008 - 6:35 PMGetting out in the world and making it happen. Hmm... I havent figured all that out yet personally.
We have some permaculture projects here at the homestead with the intention of figuring out how to create a mic-bio-system.
Ride a bike, use an old reel mower, growing food and compostin the waste, fungi and brewing beer... Developing skills....
The place is a rental, so modifying the septic and plumbing would probably be unwise. But i have some barrells for water collection and some grey/ rain water projects. Valves and pumps and such. :) I went to college to learn how to hook it all up and make it do things.
I feel college was an expensive choice. Taking loans is crazy and at the rate i'm paying i'll be working for the working on them for the next 20 years. Crazy. But i guess we should all be satisfies with the idea of taking on debt to get the things we 'need' in this country. In any case, one should definitly choose to do something based on their own decision.
I have thought about going back for more schooling in permaculture and sustainability, but creating more debt in an attempt to be more qualified to be trusted enough for people to give me a job to pay off my loans. Its just more madness.
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 3:24 PM"I read you comment about, this is where you are supposed to say....as either derogatory or celebratory based on something I said previously."
LOL.......dont get yer pan T's all N A bunch mate......all eye'm trying 2 say, and am knot thee only one who feelz az such, that all 2 often people neg8 certain thingz 4 possibly unfair reasoning......
az N thee title ov this thread
2012 duzn knot = 2012, and eye dew get highly flustered when people eye konsider 2 bee quite aware speek ov "stockpiling food and water" 4 this "M pending date"
however 2012 haz ben diluted ov its accura see buy certain "konspira sees" witch, Re: guardless ov what one wishes 2 think, have ben occur ring 2 purposefully mislead hue manity and even have hue manity, ov its own occord, bring self annihilayshun and eye aint sayin this with fear mate, knot at all....
am saying this with thee utmost N sincerety, urgency, love, az well az kompashun, oar eye wood B throw wing U N sults rather than trying 2 diskuss thingz.......... -
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 3:25 PM
"2012 duzn knot = 2012"
mint 2 say FEAR duz KNOT = "2012"
star E 4 zee type 0
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Re: FEAR and CONSPIRACY not equal to 2012!
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 12:21 PMBroad brush strokes lack specificity. Too many ppl are talking :"around" the issue...not directly; nor offering practical solutions.
We were born with abilities and capacities which go beyond our five senses (ie: chakras, energy, telepathy, empathy, precognition, telekenesis, astral body, etc.). There are several schools and voluminous information devoted to these subjects and their proper developement.
Getting in touch with our Higher Functioning is required i/o to be "part of the solution" (rather than exemplar of the problem). More so...it is absolutely necessary to be adroit with our Higher Functioning i/o to be a citizen of the greater community. But there are drawbacks when these faculties are misused. Tho much latitude is allowed for (by the parent) as children mature, one doesn't expect an infant to be able to masticate a steak....nor does one give a loaded gun to a child...how much more to the point that one doesn't allow secrets of the Universe to be disseminated in unfettered fashion.
Mentioning 26,000 years...one cycle (full circle) of Galactic Alignment is trivial in comparrison to 62 million years. It seems, that about every 62 million years, the planet and it's inhabitants, go thru a remarkable set of changes...including the sudden appearance of new species; and the changing of the guard of the dominant species Each organism has to be modified periodically in order to advance (Evolve). Our planet and its denizens are about to undergo the concumbinance of this process via several factors (ie: galactic rift, galactic alifgnment, planet X, etc.).
There are several elements of this time line, and other time lines, which have a vested interest in furthering their agendas: namely that we screw it up...or at least, that their vital interests remain preserved.
But, Our vital interests lay in the direction of exploring those latent internal capacities which are being prepped by these same Cosmic "influences". These influences are designed to kick start our laziness and apathy into a higher gear. What is inappropriately referred to as our "minds" is the objective of the focus. It is where our awareness evolves into Consciousness.
The mind: That's where our "abilities" & supernormal (latent) capacities can be approached. It is a major reason why the opposition places such importance on their stratagy of fear. It is also why They have placed so much of their Black Ops budget into the Supernormal arena (aside from communicating w/ otherworlders & transdimensionals).
But the Opposition has Fear also. Their fear is that the individual, or individuals, will make progress on developing and cultivating Higher Functioning. This achievement (also heralded by 2012) can disenfranchise the opposition's grip....and removes the reliance of the many on the few...(also severs some of their Allies' Time Line).
One needs to acquire and cultivate both the energy (which is both everpresent, as well as transcends dimensionality) as well as the necessity for the cultivation of good character which (MUST in concert) is requisite in order to advance the latent forward into manifestation.
Ergo, we have a priority goal When a group of people aspire to apply that consciousness, conscientiously, for good cause, real changes (in reality) will be evinced.
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 3:56 PM>so you've got to keep the sending-receiving under close-scrutiny to avoid letting in unwanted things that pop up like psychic-spamming and >predatorial-trolling.
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DISCLAIMER: NOT DIRECTED TO ANYONE IN PARTICULAR!!! just a rant...
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 7:33 PMI'm getting pretty tired of the notion that those who speak of conspiracies
do it out of fear, or spread fear / fear mongering...
Could it possibly be that we do it out of anger,
out of rebellion, out of disgust with the hypocrisy,
the gluttony, the sheer lack of respect for life by those that reign?
Could it be we are angry about the wars, pollution, lies, massacres, rapes, famines, diseases, torture, imprisonment, oppression, concentration camps, police brutality, slavery, animal abuse, genocide, apartheid, ....etc et-fuckin-cetera...
WE are afraid?
Nope sorry dawg, that's exactly what we're trying to tell the rest of us:
there's no terrorism to be afraid of,
there's no climate change to be afraid of,
there's only your LEADERS to be pissed off at! Royally!
Royalty? Yes, them!
And to kick off their thrones, and burn their "property rights documents contracts signed by WHO?"...
Not to be afraid of; we outnumber them like what 100.000 to 1?
Plus, in the end there's always the eternal infinite life thing,
One consciousness, so I have no fear of the guillotine.
Not that I learned that in church mind you.
If there's anything to be afraid of it is IGNORANCE of your fellow man;
ignorant soldiers and police who could be turned against you if Martial Law is declared,
ignorant doctors who support big pharma and make you sicker,
ignorant grocers who sell you poison to eat and drink,
ignorant teachers who ruin your children, and have them compete according to age,
ignorant priests who teach mediocre spirituality, spiritual hatred towards other faiths,
ignorant politicians who think they can change things through politics, who either end up killed or liars,
ignorant super-rich people who don't know how beautifull love and life is because they were born in that lifestyle?
And Bedouin is SPOT ON when he says:
Why don't you tell the sick starving children, the raped women or the dying soldiers
that they should have MANIFESTED another reality for themselves?
How easy is that for us here in California?
If there were wars, concentration camps, genocides, rapes, famines and diseases in this 3rd dimension,
then with what logic can you convince me these cannot exist in higher dimensions?
The only certainty I have about 2012 is that by then we should have taken care of our dirty laundry,
if we want to wear clean clothes for the party.
Like a psychedelic trip: Set, setting and company will determine the outcome.
And by that I mean take care of our poor, our sick and less fortunate.
And with that I mean go to the rich, and take their wealth and power and disperse it among everyone.
Take their palaces and turn them into community centers, or have them join us and voluntarily repurpose their wealth.
That can only happen through spreading awareness and information,
and activating in people a feeling of enlightenment, excitement, hope, (self-) respect, anger and urgency.
Of course these days on the internet it's hard to know what's real and what's not,
but just because one conspiracy sounds ludicrous, are they all?
No way, and the only people who benefit from such thoughts,
and from people who spread them,
are the people behind those conspiracies that are actually real.
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Re: DISCLAIMER: NOT DIRECTED TO ANYONE IN PARTICULAR!!! just a rant...
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 9:03 PMAnd the final post is? [Jeopardy music begins to play]
CON SPEAR ME A SEE?
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Mon, July 28, 2008 - 9:39 PMsorry ram, i am too damn tired to pick out the best of your post
pp: Mon, July 28, 2008 - 7:33 PM
to say it this great, i have nothing to add
nor nothing to take away
i feel my time has come around,
the world? by and foremost: the 'adults'
most too stubborn and/or too stupid
and the others left in between: ignorant
and by their own choice
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE...
children
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Re: DISCLAIMER: NOT DIRECTED TO ANYONE IN PARTICULAR!!! just a rant...
Mon, July 28, 2008 - 10:57 PM<<< I'm getting pretty tired of the notion that those who speak of
conspiracies do it out of fear, or spread fear / fear mongering... >>>
Me too. But I have not seen that so much recently.
I talk on crucial things happening in the world because I notice just about everyone is bored and depressed out there in life; because I would like heaven on Earth; and because I don't want to be poisoned to death by the Chem-Bio spraying and because I don't think children should have arms and legs blown off them, etc.
To me, 'going for it' seems to be an All-Win situation.
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Tue, July 29, 2008 - 12:34 AMI talk on crucial things happening in the world because I notice just about everyone is bored and depressed out there in life; because I would like heaven on Earth; and because I don't want to be poisoned to death by the Chem-Bio spraying and because I don't think children should have arms and legs blown off them, etc.
To me, 'going for it' seems to be an All-Win situation.
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Tue, July 29, 2008 - 8:18 AMOh, I was just about to quote something in your message, but I see you are quoting me. When I read the words, I went, wow, the truth has finally hit the world, I am alone no longer ......
<< everyone is bored and depressed out there in life >>
Well, I quoted you, quoting me ...... I haven't anything more interesting to do.
I think I'll talk to myself for awhile.
Naa. I never know anything new. And I can usually guess what I'm going to say before I've said it. That ever happen to you? (Maybe I'm talking to myself). -
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Re: DISCLAIMER: NOT DIRECTED TO ANYONE IN PARTICULAR!!! just a rant...
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 8:28 AMthat was you i was talking to michael:) -
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Re: DISCLAIMER: NOT DIRECTED TO ANYONE IN PARTICULAR!!! just a rant...
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 8:33 AMmichael, i have these cd's by Eckart Tolle... called NOW.
i thought of you while listening to them. he has alot of say about making changes in the world through conscious awareness and information. very interesting take on it.. peaceful nonresistance.
i think you would like his stuff.
youtube.com/results
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Re: DISCLAIMER: NOT DIRECTED TO ANYONE IN PARTICULAR!!! just a rant...
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 8:59 AMi like it when you whisper sweet nothings TBWC
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Re: DISCLAIMER: NOT DIRECTED TO ANYONE IN PARTICULAR!!! just a rant...
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 12:55 AMand this fear mongering bit...
if the government or "experts" told the truth
about stuff they hide from us "conspiracy theorists"
while we sit around "think tanking" about what the truth really is..
they would be called what?
fear mongers...or truth tellers?
see the difference?
one is done out in the open
the other behind closed doors.
then add the disinformation campaigns to it...
we know about those... like terrorism for example.
it works.
it's easy... a fine art to it.
we've yet to realize the full depth of control here.
body, mind and soul..
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Re: DISCLAIMER: NOT DIRECTED TO ANYONE IN PARTICULAR!!! just a rant...
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 8:44 AMAs I've said in previous threads, we must recognize the fact that these things are happening, but we must not linger on the fact that they are happening. We must instead focus on what we are going to do to change what is happening.
Step 1 is dissemination of information (ie. 'nuclear war being waged' thread) People can't do anything about problems they know nothing about.
The time is long past for us to be able to say 'it's happening over there' or 'there's nothing I can do about it'. While I may not have all the answers (we're still all figuring it out), no progress can be made with that attitude. Although it is quite amusing to hear the same people give the 'I create my own reality' bit at the same time completely disimpowering themselves by saying they can't do anything about a particular situation.
And in regards to all the shit flinging on this and the 2012 tribe. GROW UP! What I see is certain individuals trying to get a point across to everyone, trying to spread information, trying to give people knowledge, to wake them up to the full extent of the current situation on the planet. Then I see people who do nothing but try to invalidate the first group, calling them victims and fear mongerers and citing new age jargon left and right. It's siriusly time to grow up and move on. We have a mission to get every single person on earth broken free from the slavery of our modern society, back to living as beings in harmony with the natural ecosystem of the planet. Let's start thinking in terms of what is going to help us achieve this, and not about things that will not help us achieve this. -
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BING GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 5:30 PM>It's siriusly time to grow up and move on. We have a mission to get every single person on earth broken free from the slavery of our modern >society, back to living as beings in harmony with the natural ecosystem of the planet. Let's start thinking in terms of what is going to help us >achieve this, and not about things that will not help us achieve this.
HEAR HEAR kapt
well sed N deed
SIRIUSLY ;;>)))
and sted E az we grow -
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Re: BING GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 5:54 PMshit!
maybe i will have to read posts twice before i respond
manjo: filthy flesh eaters, except to SURVIVE, WILL come to be known as the lowest slime on mother earth
native americans? did they not get it?
or were they too fed too much slop from the ANCIENT spoon?
even moses had to dumb down the LAW about eating the filthy flesh
so it could be 'accepted'
he pleaded with god, or what at least he thought/felt to be at the time
he saith: lord, these people too weak to accept the law...
that was why the bible had to be rewritten, and the best thrown
constantine?
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Re: BING GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 10:30 PMThank You, Am in FULL agreement as to this which has been proclaimed in this thread:
>It's siriusly time to grow up and move on. We have a mission to get every single person on earth broken free from the slavery of our modern >society, back to living as beings in harmony with the natural ecosystem of the planet. Let's start thinking in terms of what is going to help us >achieve this, and not about things that will not help us achieve this.
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Re: DISCLAIMER: NOT DIRECTED TO ANYONE IN PARTICULAR!!! just a rant...
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 7:35 PMPaul frankly, and hello by the way, I would rather have a debate than someone telling me that there is a problem and that a solution is needed. To each their own. That is the point. You marginalize the debate with more blaming and judgement. Disagreement mind you is not judgement.
Think about it, the real question involves if 2012 is real for most people. For those that are uncertain, the question involves what will occur. For those that are fearful, the question is whether they will be included. For those that feel confident, the question is how best to convey what they understand. What do you mean by problem? Which one?
I think Anistara said it well when she pointed out that the intention of a post is crystal clear.
It's my opinion that you fall into the uncertain category based on your response. How do you feel about that? Were you speaking about yourself or for others? Oh yes, 'not directed at anyone in particular! Check the other three fingers Paul. I for one prefer to speak for myself.
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akshun
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 10:01 PM"Lastly, the information is disseminated. What are YOU going to do with it?"
quite a bit from what eye've gathered, via tribe PM's and phone konversayshuns.......
quite a few ov us dew wing thingz that kant bee "katagorized", "kompartamentalized", oar konveyed N standard verbal language.......
if paul wishes 2 X plain fine......
we R knot hear 2 "marginalize"..........
U kan look at m'eye profile and get a rather accurate glimpse ov what we dew.....
on a daily basis? tiz diffikult 4 me 2 D skribe how eye "werk" day-day attempting 2 integr8 thee knmew with thee prezent....staying N thee moment while "anchor ring" thee N koming NRG's ov thee knew........
and on that note
0n with thee show
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Re: akshun
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 12:02 AM> I would rather have a debate than someone telling me that there is a problem and that a solution is needed.
This debate is endlessly running in circles. I will admit it is much easier to do that than to start trying to DO things to change our current situation.
>You marginalize the debate with more blaming and judgement.
How so? The act of debating in my opinion is marginal compared to the act of creating a solution.
>What do you mean by problem? Which one?
Which one indeed, as there are many that need to be addressed. Let's start with the poisoning of the planet, the killing of our fellow human beings, to name a few.
> It's my opinion that you fall into the uncertain category based on your response. How do you feel about that? Were you speaking about
> yourself or for others? Oh yes, 'not directed at anyone in particular! Check the other three fingers Paul. I for one prefer to speak for myself.
>You marginalize the debate with more blaming and judgement.
Siriusly? I am curious as to how you are coming about these conclusions, and weather or not you even read what I had to say.
> Lastly, the information is disseminated. What are YOU going to do with it?
> We have a mission to get every single person on earth broken free from the slavery of our modern society, back to living as beings in
> harmony with the natural ecosystem of the planet. Let's start thinking in terms of what is going to help us achieve this, and not about
> things that will not help us achieve this.
I don't think the question involves 2012 at all. Honestly I don't think there even is a question. I think that we, human beings on this planet Earth, have much work to do in order to bring our species back in to harmony with the natural balance of the planet. I think that people have been waking up to the fact that there is a lot in this world that needs to be changed. I think the powers that be have been trying very hard to convince these awakening people that change is too difficult or impossible to acheive, and I am trying to do everything in my power to convince people that we do have the power to make these changes.
It is quite frustrating to be constantly 'marginalized and judged' here on tribe, a supposed forum for open minded individuals. I don't know if people are just denying the problems, or that they are denying that they can do anything about it, but I'm telling you that WE CAN, TOGETHER! So let's stop arguing, discrediting, invalidating, and condescending. As I said
>Let's start thinking in terms of what is going to help us achieve this, and not about things that will not help us achieve this.
Think CONSTRUCTIVE thoughts. Debate isn't bad, unless it's just a constant attempt to invalidate the other person, sounds like politicians. And here's this again, since it seems many people still need to get this message:
That feeling,
It's there, in the back of your head,
you know the one
that says something big is coming
a major shift
a change from new ways back to old
sometimes it bubbles up in conversations
and you realize
this feeling is not held by you alone.
We are all so sure of it
we can all feel it coming
so certain that it is just around the corner.
Maybe this... this vision
that far to many of us hold
to be mere coincedence
is not a vision of things to come
but a call to action
for anyone who hears it.
It's time to stop waiting around
the time is here
it is now.
This change is not going to come
unless we make it happen.
Everybody stop
this isn't it
you all feel it
you all know it
we don't have to be here.
We have the power to make it change
start with yourself
and work from there.
We can all do this
if we work together.
It might be difficult
it might be uncomfortable
it WILL require hard work
but we can do it
all of us, together
we were created for this.
It's time to start
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Re: akshun
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 12:48 AM"who's with me? "
ASSEMBLING THEE TEAM KAPT
people.tribe.net/bedouin/b...2a09d4badc
and sted E az we grow
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Re: akshun
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 8:43 AMthere is also the situation of pointing out real problems in society.
there's plenty that we may not be able to solve.
information is power.. getting it at least out there is critical in my opinion.
i personally don't see solutions to many problems that we are and will face.
doesn't mean that people should not know about them.
perhaps if enough people know about them then doors will open up.
just because one does not have a solution to a problem doesn't mean they shouldn't present it.
that's just a plain scary thought if you think about it.
talk about censorship and putting strict criteria on dissemination on knowledge & problems'
will never happen. that's what the government does. -
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Re: akshun
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 9:01 AMRight on Mia!
> Step 1 is dissemination of information (ie. 'nuclear war being waged' thread)
> People can't do anything about problems they know nothing about.
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Re: akshun
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 9:03 AMwhile i think about this...
there has to be balance. i can easily see where we (myself included) can get ourselves off balance by focusing too much on what is going on on the outside without paying mind to the effect that it is having within us.
taking action vs. reaction.
mindfullness and the power of now.
i know i have to reel myself back in otherwise this stuff really starts to piss me off.
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Re: akshun
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 9:05 AMdoesn't mean i don't want to know about it. i do.
i just need to be mindful on how i let it affect me and my reactions & mindset.
i really like those cd's "the power of now" i've learned alot.
i'd recommend them to everyone to at least glean what you can from them. -
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Re: akshun
Wed, July 30, 2008 - 5:41 PM
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