cancel the apocalypse

topic posted Wed, July 12, 2006 - 7:29 PM by  Daniel
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Recently I have been having the increasingly powerful realization that the "shift" does not have to happen catastrophically at all. We could potentially, as Saul Williams put it, "Cancel the Apocalypse," and skip straight into the Golden Age without the otherwise inevitable harrowing of hell.

It would be a bit like the fall of the Berlin Wall, but on an exponentially larger and deeper level - in which all of the "mind-forged manacles" as Blake called them suddenly fall away, because we are done with them.

One aspect of this is that those of us who have been thinking about this transformation or noospheric activation, and in a sense preparing the "morphogenetic field" for this shift in consciousness, have to work harder on ourselves - we have to abolish our deep desire for some kind of cosmic come-uppance.

By this I mean that a lot of people in the radical and progressive cultural realm, on some level, are actively looking forward to the destruction of the present system and then a truly horrendous and volatile passage before we potentially come out the other side. What underlies this is an old-fashioned Christian notion, that our civilization needs to do "penance" for our "sins," before we can go forward. It also suits some deep interior wiring for catharsis - like the bloody spectacles performed in the Roman coliseum.

But even these deep inner processes can be examined for what they are - shadow projections.

I am putting my intention into a different potential outcome - a massive and sudden raising of the collective intelligence of the species, as a natural and instinctive reaction to this critical moment.

I agree with the Dalai Lama that all anyone wants is a better life - if we can show the worst apparatchik in the Bush regime how to achieve a better life, with more love and generosity and meaning, they can make a switch in an instant.
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  • Re: cancel the apocalypse

    Wed, July 12, 2006 - 7:46 PM
    In the Hindu cycle, Shiva the Destroyer/Recycler first must do His Thing before the new age can begin.

    But I agree with you, it doesn't have to be catastrophic to the *Earth*. Shiva can wreak his destruction on those "mind-forged manacles".
    • Re: cancel the apocalypse

      Thu, July 13, 2006 - 6:44 AM
      “In the Hindu cycle, Shiva the Destroyer/Recycler first must do His Thing before the new age can begin.”

      Might I suggust you read a decent newspaper; ‘Shiva the Destroyer/Recycler’ has been quite busy. Do you need a quota of destruction to be certified?
      • Re: cancel the apocalypse

        Thu, July 13, 2006 - 2:33 PM
        *I* would say Shiva is active, but my Hindu friends say we haven't seen anything yet.
        • Re: cancel the apocalypse

          Thu, July 13, 2006 - 4:07 PM
          “*I* would say Shiva is active, but my Hindu friends say we haven't seen anything yet.”

          Cynthia

          John Lilly in his book The Center of the Cyclone wrote:

          “…in the providence of the mind, what is believed to be true is true or becomes true, within limits to be found experientially and experimentally. These limits are further beliefs to be transcended. In the providence of the mind there are no limits.”

          I would say to both you and your Hindu friends to consider this point. I can not help but think that we have been living under Shiva’s destruction for hundreds of years. How do you or your friends define destruction, and how much destruction will fulfill their definition?


          • Re: cancel the apocalypse

            Thu, July 13, 2006 - 5:24 PM
            Here's what my friend Nityananda gave me, describing the end of Kali Yuga, the current age of darkness, hippocracy, greed, etc. I thought we were pretty close to the end and that the end would coincide with 2012, but my friends tell me that is many thousands of years off. I'm still not so sure. According to the following, I'd say we're at about 12.2.7. What do you think? One thing to remember also is that although things seem really bad right now in the U.S., these scriptures are talking about these conditions *all over the world*.

            Canto 12: The Age of Deterioration Chapter 2: The Symptoms of Kali-yuga

            Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Śrīmad Bhāgavatam

            SB 12.2 Summary

            SB 12.2.1: Śukadeva Gosvāmī said: Then, O King, religion, truthfulness, cleanliness, tolerance, mercy, duration of life, physical strength and memory will all diminish day by day because of the powerful influence of the age of Kali.

            SB 12.2.2: In Kali-yuga, wealth alone will be considered the sign of a man's good birth, proper behavior and fine qualities. And law and justice will be applied only on the basis of one's power.

            SB 12.2.3: Men and women will live together merely because of superficial attraction, and success in business will depend on deceit. Womanliness and manliness will be judged according to one's expertise in sex, and a man will be known as a brāhmaṇa just by his wearing a thread.

            SB 12.2.4: A person's spiritual position will be ascertained merely according to external symbols, and on that same basis people will change from one spiritual order to the next. A person's propriety will be seriously questioned if he does not earn a good living. And one who is very clever at juggling words will be considered a learned scholar.

            SB 12.2.5: A person will be judged unholy if he does not have money, and hypocrisy will be accepted as virtue. Marriage will be arranged simply by verbal agreement, and a person will think he is fit to appear in public if he has merely taken a bath.

            SB 12.2.6: A sacred place will be taken to consist of no more than a reservoir of water located at a distance, and beauty will be thought to depend on one's hairstyle. Filling the belly will become the goal of life, and one who is audacious will be accepted as truthful. He who can maintain a family will be regarded as an expert man, and the principles of religion will be observed only for the sake of reputation.

            SB 12.2.7: As the earth thus becomes crowded with a corrupt population, whoever among any of the social classes shows himself to be the strongest will gain political power.

            SB 12.2.8: Losing their wives and properties to such avaricious and merciless rulers, who will behave no better than ordinary thieves, the citizens will flee to the mountains and forests.

            SB 12.2.9: Harassed by famine and excessive taxes, people will resort to eating leaves, roots, flesh, wild honey, fruits, flowers and seeds. Struck by drought, they will become completely ruined.

            SB 12.2.10: The citizens will suffer greatly from cold, wind, heat, rain and snow. They will be further tormented by quarrels, hunger, thirst, disease and severe anxiety.

            SB 12.2.11: The maximum duration of life for human beings in Kali-yuga will become fifty years.

            SB 12.2.12-16: By the time the age of Kali ends, the bodies of all creatures will be greatly reduced in size, and the religious principles of followers of varṇāśrama will be ruined. The path of the Vedas will be completely forgotten in human society, and so-called religion will be mostly atheistic. The kings will mostly be thieves, the occupations of men will be stealing, lying and needless violence, and all the social classes will be reduced to the lowest level of śūdras. Cows will be like goats, spiritual hermitages will be no different from mundane houses, and family ties will extend no further than the immediate bonds of marriage. Most plants and herbs will be tiny, and all trees will appear like dwarf śamī trees. Clouds will be full of lightning, homes will be devoid of piety, and all human beings will have become like asses. At that time, the Supreme Personality of Godhead will appear on the earth. Acting with the power of pure spiritual goodness, He will rescue eternal religion.

            SB 12.2.17: Lord Viṣṇu — the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the spiritual master of all moving and nonmoving living beings, and the Supreme Soul of all — takes birth to protect the principles of religion and to relieve His saintly devotees from the reactions of material work.

            SB 12.2.18: Lord Kalki will appear in the home of the most eminent brāhmaṇa of Śambhala village, the great soul Viṣṇuyaśā.

            SB 12.2.19-20: Lord Kalki, the Lord of the universe, will mount His swift horse Devadatta and, sword in hand, travel over the earth exhibiting His eight mystic opulences and eight special qualities of Godhead. Displaying His unequaled effulgence and riding with great speed, He will kill by the millions those thieves who have dared dress as kings.

            SB 12.2.21: After all the impostor kings have been killed, the residents of the cities and towns will feel the breezes carrying the most sacred fragrance of the sandalwood paste and other decorations of Lord Vāsudeva, and their minds will thereby become transcendentally pure.

            SB 12.2.22: When Lord Vāsudeva, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, appears in their hearts in His transcendental form of goodness, the remaining citizens will abundantly repopulate the earth.

            SB 12.2.23: When the Supreme Lord has appeared on earth as Kalki, the maintainer of religion, Satya-yuga will begin, and human society will bring forth progeny in the mode of goodness.

            SB 12.2.24: When the moon, the sun and Bṛhaspatī are together in the constellation Karkaṭa, and all three enter simultaneously into the lunar mansion Puṣyā — at that exact moment the age of Satya, or Kṛta, will begin.

            SB 12.2.25: Thus I have described all the kings — past, present and future — who belong to the dynasties of the sun and the moon.

            SB 12.2.26: From your birth up to the coronation of King Nanda, 1,150 years will pass.

            SB 12.2.27-28: Of the seven stars forming the constellation of the seven sages, Pulaha and Kratu are the first to rise in the night sky. If a line running north and south were drawn through their midpoint, whichever of the lunar mansions this line passes through is said to be the ruling asterism of the constellation for that time. The Seven Sages will remain connected with that particular lunar mansion for one hundred human years. Currently, during your lifetime, they are situated in the nakṣatra called Maghā.

            SB 12.2.29: The Supreme Lord, Viṣṇu, is brilliant like the sun and is known as Kṛṣṇa. When He returned to the spiritual sky, Kali entered this world, and people then began to take pleasure in sinful activities.

            SB 12.2.30: As long us Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa, the husband of the goddess of fortune, touched the earth with His lotus feet, Kali was powerless to subdue this planet.

            SB 12.2.31: When the constellation of the seven sages is passing through the lunar mansion Maghā, the age of Kali begins. It comprises twelve hundred years of the demigods.

            SB 12.2.32: When the great sages of the Saptarṣi constellation pass from Maghā to Pūrvāsāḍhā, Kali will have his full strength, beginning from King Nanda and his dynasty.

            SB 12.2.33: Those who scientifically understand the past declare that on the very day that Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa departed for the spiritual world, the influence of the age of Kali began.

            SB 12.2.34: After the one thousand celestial years of Kali-yuga, the Satya-yuga will manifest again. At that time the minds of all men will become self-effulgent.

            SB 12.2.35: Thus I have described the royal dynasty of Manu, as it is known on this earth. One can similarly study the history of the vaiśyas, śūdras and brāhmaṇas living in the various ages.

            SB 12.2.36: These personalities, who were great souls, are now known only by their names. They exist only in accounts from the past, and only their fame remains on the earth.

            SB 12.2.37: Devāpi, the brother of Mahārāja Śāntanu, and Maru, the descendant of Ikṣvāku, both possess great mystic strength and are living even now in the village of Kalāpa.

            SB 12.2.38: At the end of the age of Kali, these two kings, having received instruction directly from the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Vāsudeva, will return to human society and reestablish the eternal religion of man, characterized by the divisions of varṇa and āśrama, just as it was before.

            SB 12.2.39: The cycle of four ages — Satya, Tretā, Dvāpara and Kali — continues perpetually among living beings on this earth, repeating the same general sequence of events.

            SB 12.2.40: My dear King Parīkṣit, all these kings I have described, as well as all other human beings, come to this earth and stake their claims, but ultimately they all must give up this world and meet their destruction.

            SB 12.2.41: Even though a person's body may now have the designation "king," in the end its name will be "worms," "stool" or "ashes." What can a person who injures other living beings for the sake of his body know about his own self-interest, since his activities are simply leading him to hell?

            SB 12.2.42: [The materialistic king thinks:] "This unbounded earth was held by my predecessors and is now under my sovereignty. How can I arrange for it to remain in the hands of my sons, grandsons and other descendants?"

            SB 12.2.43: Although the foolish accept the body made of earth, water and fire as "me" and this earth as "mine," in every case they have ultimately abandoned both their body and the earth and passed away into oblivion.

            SB 12.2.44: My dear King Parīkṣit, all these kings who tried to enjoy the earth by their strength were reduced by the force of time to nothing more than historical accounts.
            • Re: cancel the apocalypse

              Thu, July 13, 2006 - 6:04 PM
              Cynthia: “One thing to remember also is that although things seem really bad right now in the U.S., these scriptures are talking about these conditions *all over the world*.”

              I quite agree with that statement. 30,000 children under the age of 12 die each day due to lack of nutrition or basic hygine. 80% of the people on Earth do not have acces to water in their drwelling, and the water they must retrieve certainly is not treated or safe.

              To my way of thinking we are and have been living in the Kali Yuga; the Greeks called it the Iron Age.

              I do wonder what these ancient writers who wrote about both the Kali Yuga and the Iron Age would think of our current situation?

              I would think they would be appaled by what is happening today and their jaws would drop in disbelieve as we write about this on the internet.

            • Re: cancel the apocalypse

              Wed, July 19, 2006 - 12:45 AM
              here is my problem with prophecy...
              our 'minds'
              it is my current belief
              reality IS what WE make it
              so if we believe in prophecy that prophecy will
              become self fulfilling...
              so if we take Daniel's Intent and make it our own...
              which is along the lines of what i have been
              trying to figure out lately...
              we can manifest that too...
              but i think...
              we really have to INTEND it
              we have to stand-up and say i am doing this for the world
              my fellow beings
              my fellow women
              my fellow hobbits...whoever whatever
              in that stance
              the stance of Intent
              the will responds
              it does i swear it ( you can feel it energetically it is very nice energy strong and clear and...sounds weird but it is like Water like the power of Water...relentless patient finding its way by having form and being formless)
              all of sudden you are just doing it..
              Intent must be cultivated
              i believe that there is a tipping point out there.....
              i will share a vision i had... i can't remeber when now..
              time is becoming very very tenuous for me of late...
              i was meditating and the Heart (i knowiknowiknow) but it is true the Heart is the COOLEST of chakras
              sort of attached me to a really big Buddha i was up around the top shoulder area
              it was a buddha under construction and i just became a piece of it..right the Cell of a Buddha..but the important part...i think..
              is that the Buddha was almost complete i was on the upper shoulder there was that level and up left.....
              i know visions are subjective
              but what if we just need enough self 'AWARE" awake whatever word you want to use
              people to complete the big Buddha what if it is just a critical mass that will break those chains for everyone...
              this was my thought for 2012 energeticIntuitiveEvolution...
              to harness the process of discovery/transformation of the Self
              for the benefit of all, but maybe all it requires is the Intent
              and not all this thrashing around i have been doing
              trying to rally people etc...
              maybe all i have to do is BE... a much bigger word then it seems...
              i am so happy Daniel posted this thread..
              Love
              Light
              Bow

            • Unsu...
               

              Re: cancel the apocalypse

              Thu, July 20, 2006 - 5:28 PM
              "SB 12.2.11: The maximum duration of life for human beings in Kali-yuga will become fifty years."

              I have heard the same from Tibetan Lamas
              Things will only get worse. 2012? -nice try, your mind might "expand" but you'll live on a shithole of a planet.
              Look around.
              Just today I read that the Glaciers in the Himalayas are melting at an alarming rate. And guess what? The rest is turning into desert.
              There just was a huge sandstorm which reached Korea and Japan dumping 336,000 tons of dust. There have been 13 of them in this year alone. Most of them hitting northern China.

              story from the "The Independent" UK
              Sunday 7 May 2006
              • Re: cancel the apocalypse

                Thu, July 20, 2006 - 10:53 PM
                several things...
                My Enlightened Master taught me that Enlightened beings can be wrong...
                The future is a set of probabilities coming together to form outcomes...
                probabilities change and shift all the time... Nothing is Certain
                Lama does not automatically equal wisdom
                Prophecy is subjective to the Seer
                and how do you know that all these so callled "bad' things are bad?
                Transformation in my experience has gotten down right bleak and horrible at times..
                all your shit rises to the surface..
                my Master used to joke
                feeling terrible?
                Good! It's working!
                No peaks without valleys! That's the Spirit! Now get over yourself!
                so you see a shithole coming and i see edges filled with probabilities
                edges filled with opportunities and cubic centimeters of chance
                for BIGBIG change...
                have a good time on the shithole you end up on!
                Love
                Light
                Bow
                • Re: cancel the apocalypse

                  Fri, July 21, 2006 - 3:38 AM
                  everyone has great points.global "group global mind" or twelve monkey thoery are amazing,,the powers of manifestation and intention,after all we are in the physical plane,,interacting metaphysicaly in many realms&dimensions./conscoiusness reality blends.or angling perception threw incriments of" time" ,,to view(only segments),of the manifested>,,i think part of the apocalypse is attempt at control,like the more people they get to accept such pollutional attempts at future,because manipulations,,and brainwashing,,off step the odds,,,but it depends what u defend?,,,sorts of new unlived proportions,,in eternalized physical dreamstates,,more light,,etc.?,,,,,orDOOM!...haha....i think all this body stuff is leading somewhere and the earth is looking beautifull,just look at all the spritual regeneration we all talk about,,symbiotic birth and death.?intention and acceptence>projection,,,,6billion"mentalpixels"will they cancel the apocalypse?
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                    Re: cancel the apocalypse

                    Fri, July 21, 2006 - 6:28 AM
                    there is a movie on showtime (on Demand) called 'Code 46'...It seems to me a very realistic and encompassing view of the 2012 time to come.
                • Unsu...
                   

                  Re: cancel the apocalypse

                  Fri, July 21, 2006 - 8:01 AM
                  >>have a good time on the shithole you end up on! <<

                  I think I will

                  Like my guru always used to say: Chocolate and Shit they are the same

                  :-p
  • Re: cancel the apocalypse

    Wed, July 12, 2006 - 7:49 PM
    what, no mas lucifer?

    is this realization similar to the notion that 'we are already forgiven' (a phrase i heard once on 2nd avenue repeated to all passersby by a course in miracles cat)?

    if that is your new intention, i would propose as one of your first projects being our little mushroom friend :)

    p.s.
    dig the saul reference.
    if you haven't already, listen to 'mr. nichols', the song he recently did with coldcut.
    breathtakingly heartbreakingly beautiful...
    • Re: cancel the apocalypse

      Wed, July 12, 2006 - 8:47 PM
      absofuckinglutely!

      I agree Daniel, I have for some time been feeling strongly in this direction as well...at some point I was even feeling concerned with what those expecting trauma where creating for all of us, but even that I've let go...as fearing it is the same as feeding it...

      so yes! smooth transition, that is the creation that receives my vote
  • Re: cancel the apocalypse

    Wed, July 12, 2006 - 10:23 PM
    This is a message I got the other day. "We" refers to the Plant World, though not necessarily limited to the Plant World.


    The meaning of apocalyptic visions is that force will be used if necessary, to realign the human species with the Planet. . All the catastrophic visions people are getting are "real" in a sense. They are all the sense of the fact that major change and readjustment has to happen, and it is UP TO YOU whether you cooperate, and start realigning your society with the Planet, or whether you resist and Shit has to Happen.

    It is UP TO YOU! There is nothing specific prophesied for 2012 FOR A REASON! Because it is UP TO YOU TO DECIDE!

    If you cooperate as a society, you will find the natural world incredibly ready to cooperate with you and support you in this change. Like, look at how we have supported humans in the past, by cooperating so actively with humans in the development of new plant varieties that would serve their needs. Everywhere humans have lived, Plants have actively supported humans. Really, Plants love humans. You are Loved on this planet, no one wants to get rid of the human species. The whole natural world has so much invested in you, and our journey together has barely begun.

    But we all know, including the human species groupmind knows too, that the game has to be realigned. It was inevitable that some kind of problems would develop. Moving to the "next level" REQUIRES problems. Problems catalyze them. That is why the Planet had to speed up global warming so that it started NOW. Look at how the global warming issue is catalyzing awakening. This is no accident.

    But if you turn around your consciousness and start manifesting sustainable, just, balanced societies, it won't matter if you are not "perfect" on the physical plane -- not 100% sustainable, just, etc. As long as your =consciousness= as a species is turned firmly IN THAT DIRECTION, with a COMMITMENT to bring it about, the natural world will actively cooperate.

    You will finally understand and discover the power of one of the most basic principles: Self-Fulfilling Prophecy. You have to awaken to the fact that Self-Fulfilling Prophecy creates your species' reality. Whatever you believe about your species becomes reality.

    But a serious shakeup and realignment is coming. Whether it is a violent catastrophic collapse that entails enormous suffering, or a gentle glide that challenges your abilities to adapt rapidly, that depends on you. YOU make the decision. And the second choice is preferable, because the first choice just adds more trauma to the human groupmind, which is already traumatized enough. Adding more trauma just makes the whole Transformation harder.

    So, changing the groupmind consciousness and manifesting that change on the physical plane, on any scale -- that means every effort down to the tiniest recycled scrap of paper contributes -- that COMMITMENT TO A CHANGE IN DIRECTION is what you have to manifest, as a species, by 2012. That does not mean you have to have completely =accomplished= the change in direction, it just means that there has to be a COMMITMENT. 2012 is the point at which you will tip the balance and decide whether the change has to be forceful and traumatic or creative and exhilarating. It is the point of DECISION.

    And your job as awakened people is to send that awakening energy through the groupmind in every way you can, through the way you live your lives.
    • Re: cancel the apocalypse

      Thu, July 13, 2006 - 11:19 AM
      I agree with Daniel and Gayle that the future is basically open-ended. Drastic changes may be inevitable; how we experience these is largely up to us. Another concept that may be relevant here is that of multiple, or probable realities. If the universe is multidimensional, which certainly seems to be the case, that suggests that what we experience is based on our energy alignment. I've been influenced on this by the Seth books, as well as others. Any "probable reality" that can be conceived can also be experienced, so it may be a mistake to speak of the future as if it was singular. This also points to the futility of arguing too much with anyone, such as fundamentalists, who have a clear vision of a certain future. Let them have their future; we don't have to share it.
    • Unsu...
       

      Re: cancel the apocalypse

      Thu, July 13, 2006 - 7:55 PM
      Gayle...

      your post reminds me of a line that Bjork sings in one of the songs used in her soundtrack to Matthew Barney's film Drawing Restraint 9:

      "From the moment of commitment, Nature conspires to help you."
  • Re: cancel the apocalypse

    Wed, July 12, 2006 - 10:32 PM
    uh.... I think you're a little late.... someone already put the needle in the balloon.
    • Re: cancel the apocalypse

      Wed, July 12, 2006 - 10:35 PM
      The balloon might not pop.... there's a chance the air will slowly whisp out.... there's a chance the hole will expand and the air will rush out, then there's scotch tape, but I don't think the bandaid rig would hold.....
      • Re: cancel the apocalypse

        Thu, July 13, 2006 - 3:01 AM
        I've seen a few different plans for saving the world. One is the group meditation thing, but that one has the problem that the influences of Capitalism are much stronger than the influence of group meditation. Sure, group meditation might influence random number generators, but it takes a whole lot more to influence against the power of capitalist greed.

        What we need is to create a new society, starting with one small community. That will grow like a tiny seed, unaffected by the greed. That will eliminate the greed.

        See my website:
        conceivia.com

        Tony
        • Re: cancel the apocalypse

          Thu, July 13, 2006 - 8:34 AM
          "In the Hindu cycle, Shiva the Destroyer/Recycler first must do His Thing before the new age can begin. "

          We are not going to get out of the destruction side. The big question is the speed at which it happens -- abruptly and traumatically, or with enough gradualness that we can adapt and create the new.

          It is not something that will happen in the future. It is happening now. The thing is, it requires awakening. It is happening now, in gradualness, giving us the opportunity to adapt and prepare and build the new.... but will this gradualness lead to awakening? Or does our species need serious collective trauma to shake it awake? That is what we are deciding right now.

          I completely agree with Tony. "What we need is to create a new society, starting with one small community. That will grow like a tiny seed, unaffected by the greed. That will eliminate the greed." This is also the message that I have received. If ALL we are doing is meditating and waiting for the species groupmind to awaken, we are dropping the ball.

          Not only that -- if we DON'T take this space, the opportunity we have at this point in time, to create the foundations of the new -- while at the same time meditating and sending healing love into the groupmind -- if we fail to do this, we make the traumatic awakening inevitable. The decision is really in our hands!

          The system is set up to make this difficult, almost impossible, of course -- at least in industrialized countries like the US -- because it is set up to make money a necessity of life, and to control us through money. People in the US throw the word "freedom" around with no comprehension of what "freedom" is -- even though they spend their lives in jobs they hate, deadening themselves with television in order to avoid having to think about their enslavement, because money is the instrument of control that makes the decisions about their lives for them and keeps them locked into serving the system.

          We should not expect it to be easy, to create the new society. If we expect it to be easy, we are going to be frustrated and give up.

          Daniel, I think that those people in the radical / progressive community are just frustrated. Working for social change in the US is like beating your head against the wall -- people with bruised heads start dreaming of seeing the wall fall down go boom.
  • Re: cancel the apocalypse

    Thu, July 13, 2006 - 4:59 AM
    cancel it, recreate it, reconfigure it

    if apocalypse is as to reveal or is a disclosure
    then perhaps we shall open it, unfold like a flower

    and perhaps it is closer to 'epoch-calyx'

    it could be a matter of becoming all that you know
    all you’ve seen and felt
    the direction you claim, proclaim and envision
    the touch and limits of your imagination
    that is all that will become of you
    all this and more, all augmented beyond belief,

    or so Ive been told
    -

    and as Jim Henson has said-

    'Life's like a movie, write your own ending. Keep believing, keep pretending'





    www.graffitirun.net/words/
    • Re: cancel the apocalypse

      Thu, July 13, 2006 - 7:27 AM
      My fault!- That was not DP’s coercion style propaganda in any way was it - Gayle? Anyone?

      Allow me the liberty of quoting from the journalist - turn idealist visionary - turning king prophet. So that I may point out -what coercion rhetoric- really looks like. I will point out the key words, the image and emotionally fill words, designed to create bias emotional states. They are the words I have highlighted:

      DP says,
      “By this I mean that a lot of people in the (radical) and progressive cultural realm, on some level, are actively looking forward to the destruction of the present system and then a (truly horrendous and volatile) passage before we potentially come out the other side. What underlies this is an (old-fashioned) Christian notion, that our civilization needs to do "penance" for our "sins," before we can go forward. It also suits some deep interior wiring for catharsis - like the (bloody) spectacles performed in the Roman coliseum.”

      Lets look at those again shall we. The group he is referring to is Right Wing Christians referring to them as: “…radical…truly horrendous and volatile…old-fashioned…bloody…shadow people.”

      You know how the reader can tell…IT IS coercion!?!
      If you - the reader – subtract his emotion charges words from the paragraph, it would still be a cognitive and cohesive sentence. But you see, DP needs those words…needs to depict that NEGATIVE energy/emotion to charge that subconscious bias in his fanatics.

      He also directs - (better yet PROJECTS) - the bias onto a stereotypical group of citizens Christians/Romans (Catholics).

      Keep in mind, the fact that you may agree with DP, doesn't change the fact of the intent he displays.

      Hitler did the same thing, only his projected enemy was Jews.
      • Re: cancel the apocalypse

        Thu, July 13, 2006 - 7:43 AM
        Don Profit,

        I suppose if it where said it this way it just would not have the juice:

        “By this I mean that a lot of people, on some level, are actively looking forward to the destruction of the present system and then a passage before we potentially come out the other side. What underlies this is the notion, is that our civilization needs to do "penance" for our "sins," before we can go forward. It also suits some deep interior wiring for catharsis.”

        To be or not to be coerced, that is the question.
      • Re: cancel the apocalypse

        Thu, July 13, 2006 - 7:58 AM
        it appears to me, that most of the negative energy is coming from you, Theo-


        But you see, Theo needs those words…needs to depict that negative, energy/emotion to charge that fanatic biased subconscious of his/hers..


        Theo- perhaps you might want to check in
        with Dr Seuss



        -


        "Adults are obsolete children."


        How did it get so late so soon?
        Its night before its afternoon.
        December is here before its June.
        My goodness how the time has flewn.
        How did it get so late so soon?

        You have brains in your head.
        You have feet in your shoes.
        You can steer yourself
        any direction you choose.
        You're on your own. And you know what you know.
        And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go....

        OH! THE PLACES YOU'LL GO!
        You'll be on your way up!
        You'll be seeing great sights!
        You'll join the high fliers
        who soar to high heights.
        You won't lag behind, because you'll have the speed.
        You'll pass the whole gang and you'll soon take the lead.
        Wherever you fly, you'll be best of the best.
        Wherever you go, you will top all the rest.


        “My alphabet starts with this letter called yuzz. It's the letter I use to spell yuzz-a-ma-tuzz. You'll be sort of surprised what there is to be found once you go beyond 'Z' and start poking around!”


        “I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. Some come from ahead and some come from behind. But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!”

        -Dr Seuss

        -
        Dr G
        PhD

        forecast today;
        strange and windy
        • Re: cancel the apocalypse

          Thu, July 13, 2006 - 8:08 AM
          what negative words did I use? ...what negative energy did I give off?...

          I simply disagree and see things differently. I clearly pointed it out, its not opinion...its there.
          I suppose the edited paragraph I wrote - without the coercion - would not have made the same point?

          Perhaps you should allow my disagreement...instead of taking offence to it...look into it. Its there BLACK AND WHITE...Horses Mouth.

          I love all the spacing too...was that to bury the posts? Are you afraid people will read my post? Would that be bad? perhaps you should let people decide for themselves. You choose to read it, maybe you should let them to...Graf.
          • Re: cancel the apocalypse

            Thu, July 13, 2006 - 8:56 AM
            Im glad you like space..

            how does one bury a post??



            >>perhaps you should let people decide for themselves.

            haha!

            straight from the horses mouth.


            -

            Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
            Dr. Seuss


            Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not.
            Dr. Seuss (1904 - 1991), The Lorax

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorax
            • Re: cancel the apocalypse

              Thu, July 13, 2006 - 9:02 AM
              I see it is more important to hide the truth then to face it...

              Hmm...fanatical?
              • Re: cancel the apocalypse

                Thu, July 13, 2006 - 9:05 AM
                I think i have to death to rights...with the edited paragraph vs. the original. The have the same meaning. The only difference is the tactic. lol
              • Re: cancel the apocalypse

                Thu, July 13, 2006 - 9:18 AM
                is that what you see?

                what is the Truth oh Theo oh God of the Realms?

                what Im getting at here is that the truth is what you decide it shall be, what you are capable of creating on an indivdual basis. And your truth ...this truth you so fervently announce - isnt very exciting, feels rather limiting and is full of holes.

                I feel no need to hide it or distract it or attach to it-
                It is hidden in all its 'glory'
                I feel no need to invesitgate it, it does not intrigue

                but hey, here we are
                midday, noon and eve-
                perhaps
                2012 aint nuthin'
                but a strong summer breeze

                at ease
                g
        • Dr. Seuss

          Fri, July 14, 2006 - 10:05 AM
          Although the whole thread and topic has been illuminating...
          Including the 'Age of Kali' and the "Iron Age" references...

          I would like to say thank you for
          The Dr. Suess quotes.
      • Re: cancel the apocalypse

        Tue, August 1, 2006 - 3:25 AM
        "Keep in mind, the fact that you may agree with DP, doesn't change the fact of the intent he displays. Hitler did the same thing, only his projected enemy was Jews."

        Godwin's Law in full effect. Way to be predictable and trite, Theo.
        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

        According to this, it would be concluded that you have automatically "lost" the debate.
        • Re: cancel the apocalypse

          Tue, August 1, 2006 - 3:50 AM
          Well I read that...

          and I lend no credit or discredit to Godwins Law.

          I did not loose the debate...the debate is was dismissed on bias. That is fine.

          DP still used tactics that were intended to sir up emotion in order to swing (spin) the messeage.

          Its there in black and white...I editted the sentence leaving those words out...and it made every bit of sense without taken any meaning from it.

          so what does Godwin say about that?
          "Godwin's Law does not dispute whether, in a particular instance, a reference or comparison to Hitler or the Nazis might be apt. "

          Did you even read the paragraphs that were posted? Can you say that the paragraph made less sense to context when the edit was applied?

          The length people will go through to detract from the intent. it fanatical...simply fantastic.
        • Re: cancel the apocalypse

          Tue, August 1, 2006 - 5:12 AM
          This law is very true in my experience. It's a great way to get attention and to start and perpetuate flame wars. Usually the people who bring these issues into the discussion have no genuine interest in the forum's main topic and are there to stir things up.
          • Re: cancel the apocalypse

            Tue, August 1, 2006 - 3:03 PM
            I rethought this...
            And I still see no harm in naming Hilter as an example of the tactic.
            Even so...try addressing the issue...which that statement was taken from...the paragraph on cathlics and christians...

            It is obvious that the Tactics are the same and where in full use.

            Again, you both ignor the text and attack the person...invitedly so.

            I can give you a list of more popular personalities that use the same tactic:
            Goerge W. Bush and his use of the ideas of terror
            L. Ron Hubbard
            Your Neighbor Hood preacher ...right down the strett
            Your local Law enforcement officer

            All these figures use the same tactic to promote their ideas/views...
            these tactics are designed to manipulate based on subconscious bias that is preprogrammed...and triggered with the use of 'words'...
            When these words are used, it is an attempted to manipulate you.

            Just like you are now attempting to use the word Hitler to evoke some anti-jewish bias...I'm happy for Godwin for thinking this up, but it does not change the fact that the tactic of DP mirrors him. But again, a direct quote from Godwin theory...states that his observation does not deal with factual content of the post, it simply says that if you mention the word Hilter you bring up a bias...ok. Further, you can revolve this alround Hilter wording if you want to...another bias. but again...now deal with the issue of the paragraphs written and edited.

            1) IS THERE A MAJOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PARAGRAPH I AND PARAGRAPH II?

            2)DOES PARAGRAPH TWO TAKE ANYTHING OUT OF CONTEXT (EXCEPT THE EMOTION CHARGE - INTENTED!)?

            3) there have been 20 plus post since that was written and none address the issue of the obvious tactic used...this to me is a direct sign of the fan-atics unwillingness to address the issues and apply critical thinking to them.

            That is a check and mate for me. if I were wrong...you would attach the issue and the messengers.
  • Re: cancel the apocalypse

    Thu, July 13, 2006 - 11:45 AM
    >>Keep in mind, the fact that you may agree with DP, doesn't change the fact of the intent he displays.

    Hitler did the same thing, only his projected enemy was Jews. <<


    Theo, you're going too far. The post above is enough to pursue a court case against you, as defamation of character.
    Comparing someone to Hitler is not fun. There are other ways to discuss differences of ideas and beliefs.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slander_and_libel
    • Re: cancel the apocalypse

      Thu, July 13, 2006 - 11:56 AM
      Auton...

      your laughable.

      Why didnt you post that when Steven made his remarks about Lennon.

      Further more, truth isnt liable. ;) wink.

      Didnt Hitler inflame a country to rally around him, using the Jews as scape goats. Didn't DP inflame his fans to rally around him, using "old-fashioned Christianism'' as his scape goat? I would bet its right there in black and white. Read it.

      Ok ok. How about L. Ron Hubbard. If your fiction cant sell...start your own cult. Lol
  • Re: cancel the apocalypse

    Thu, July 13, 2006 - 1:08 PM
    Cancel the apocalypse???

    but I just put a cd-player in
    my post-apoc DEATHMOBILE!!!

    and I finally got the mustard stains
    off of my kevlar vest
    • Unsu...
       

      Re: cancel the apocalypse

      Thu, July 13, 2006 - 8:02 PM
      Daniel, interesting post as I've been thinking about the same lately....however, as much as I'm being an optimist and focus on the positive, where do we draw the line between wishful thinking and positive thought?
      I think that's what I've been struggling with lately. I'm certainly no doomsday-wisher or anything like that, but it seems to me that the critical mass is certainly not yet reached to facilitate change without any big "breakdowns".....maybe it will over the next years and I certainly do all the best I can in my own life and evolution to focus on that.......without getting distracted and sidetracked by the pitfalls of official culture and the limiting beliefs we have conditioned ourselves with over the past couple of thousand years.
      In August I'll be going to Peru to work with a shaman and trying Ayahuasca for the first time. I feel at this point these sacred plants can teach me more about life, 2012, what to focus on and how to evoke constructive and positive change than any books or internet links combined. I feel the strong urge to connect to nature more and just about a month ago I moved closer to nature and live now in beautiful Topanga Canyon next to a creek (This frog keeps appearing in my shower each morning...lol!). It is interesting to see, on a positive note, in my profession as a bodyworker I can see more and more people being drawn to the healing arts and more and more people out of all walks of life ask me about DMT and entheogens in general, even from folks I expected it the least, even older ones. It seems that people do become more aware and even unconsciously feel the need to cleanse themselves and heal themselves, searching for more meaning than official culture has given them. So, yes, something is on its way and I feel great about it. it is exciting and I'm joyful as a child lately....for no particular reason......just being in nature makes me feel wonderful. In the end I think if we want to heal the world, we need to start with ourselves. There is no way around it. That's basically what will determine how "drastic" or "forceful" change will come about.....so we can find more excuses and talk around in circles or just face ourselves as we are and do what needs to be done.........and that is everyone's personal responsibility. No leader is going to do this for us. All Indians, no chiefs.

      Very inspiring, Daniel, thank you!
      • Unsu...
         

        Re: cancel the apocalypse

        Thu, July 13, 2006 - 9:01 PM
        Bernhard, while I'm constitutionally inclined to agree with your position (I'm pessimistically apprehensive, might as well admit it), I feel I owe it to the larger evolving consciousness to entertain the challenge Daniel presents to us, hard as it is to 'think positive'...

        What is this 'critical mass'? Of course, I know what you mean, but how big is it? 144,000? Or is it a percentage of the current world population? Does it come down to a number? One of the things Daniel said when I saw him give a reading was that he emphasized it might be more about a QUALITATIVE shift in any number of beings than a shift in a QUANTITATIVE body of humans - As he wrote elsewhere on the BOTH forum, "it will begin with a small group and then move out across the planet like a shockwave" - It could even be a very small group that sets the spark off, the question is how? (I think if somehow the mainstream global media where most people get their daily reality reinforcement could be switched off, or switched over to promotion of an alternate paradigm, it might thereby avert the need for a mass traumatic violent breakdown... how 'we' might incipiate that I don't know... maybe by praying for a global power outage)...

        On a related note, has anyone read Barbara Hand Clow's book CATASTROPHOBIA? I have not, but the book is cited in Geoff Stray's BEYOND 2012 which I am currently reading, saying:

        "she argues that the current obsession with imminent catastrophe is a kind of mental block in the unconscious mind of the species caused by a racial memory of a catastrophe in 9500 BC"

        (if that theory is true I would have to add that the obsession is powerfully fueled and reinforced by our mass media and popular culture)...
        • Re: cancel the apocalypse

          Thu, July 13, 2006 - 9:37 PM
          One of the things Daniel said when I saw him give a reading was that he emphasized it might be more about a QUALITATIVE shift in any number of beings than a shift in a QUANTITATIVE body of humans...>

          This is a good point. I think when we are discussing consciousness, an enlightened (not necessarily in any technical, e.g. Buddhist sense of that word) minority may be sufficient to bring about a "critical mass." Regarding Barbara Hand Clow, I once saw her speak and I think she has an interesting perspective, though I don't know if I agree with her Catastrophe theory. I'm a little more familiar with another channeler of Pleideians, Barbara Marciniak, whose latest book is called The Path of Empowerment. Her books also consider 2012 to be the pivotal year.
  • Re: cancel the apocalypse

    Thu, July 13, 2006 - 9:14 PM
    Daniel, yes that would be SO nice to cancel the Apocalypse just by blinking our eyes and seeing a better world, one reality is, I feel, we are in it (apocalypse) right now. Though some of us are safe in the woods and in comfortable zones..... there are those who at this moment in Time are suffering from the ravages of War, Tsunamis, Volcanoes, Earthquakes, lack of water, droubt, etc.... its part of our life right now; this paradigm based on maney and greed. The increasing wind of change (spoken of long ago) and dramatic upswing of weather abnormalities upon us rght now are par for the 'course', and all the hellish blodd of war happening right now is apocalyptic, yet.... it is a deeper fact, even greater is the core reality that WE are learning from it all. WE are learning Love. WE are no doubt becoming grander in our understanding and drive toward freedom and liberation. Seeing who we are in this matrix - the design of life.

    Our faith; is our Love. Our love; is our faith.

    Know hate - know war.
    No hate - NO war.

    It seems simple enough..... yet..... (sigh)

    Daniel: "I am putting my intention into a different potential outcome - a massive and sudden raising of the collective intelligence of the species, as a natural and instinctive reaction to this critical moment."

    Thank you brother.... THAT is a good thing to envision - that is undoubtedly what will happen when it goes too far - and in some of us IS happening right now.
    • Unsu...
       

      Re: cancel the apocalypse

      Thu, July 13, 2006 - 9:36 PM
      Although I might add that (as Daniel and most of you know), 'apocalypse' does not inherently and necessarily equate with catastrophe and violent global geophysical trauma - The word 'apocalypse' essentially refers to the piercing or rending of the veil of illusion that separates us from the Divine:

      "However, the Apocalypse technically refers to the unveiling of God, in his guise as the Messiah, and not to all of the destruction of the world which will accompany God's Revelation of Himself to Humankind." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse

      It is in this more fundamental sense of the word that I say 'bring it on' - So rather than to say, let's cancel the apocalypse, I say let's redefine it, and create a 'safe space' for the process to unfold (for in a very real sense it is our resistance to this process that is going to complicate the course of eventualities with needless violence and suffering)...
      • Re: cancel the apocalypse

        Thu, July 13, 2006 - 11:17 PM
        On a more serious note
        Leaving work today in San Francisco
        Massive demonstrations were happening in the streets
        Near the Israeli consulate both pro-Israel and Pro-Palestinian
        On McNeil Lehr the CFR president seem to think there was a
        Great chance that the mid-east will erupt into a broader war
        There was also a clip of Lebanese people evacuating Beirut
        As to not get caught up in someone else’s war
        Other’s both Lebanese and Israeli were ready for a fight

        I thought of a paraphrased line from the Godfather:
        Every few hundred years or so we have one of these
        To clear up all the bad blood

        I get the feeling everyone just want to kill each other
        Who am I to try to stop them?
        • Unsu...
           

          Re: cancel the apocalypse

          Thu, July 13, 2006 - 11:26 PM
          > I get the feeling everyone just want to kill each other. Who am I to try to stop them?

          I hear ya (bring the troops home NOW!)... and in the past, war was glorified on those grounds, i.e. bloodshed enriches the soil of the earth... except now, of course, with nuclear weapons it's a whole different ballgame when a geographically localized bloodbath can easily light the fuse of planetary annihilation...
          • Unsu...
             

            Re: cancel the apocalypse

            Fri, July 14, 2006 - 1:01 AM
            "I get the feeling everyone just want to kill each other. Who am I to try to stop them?"

            No need to try to stop "them" at all......also no need for any demonstrations at all (might made some upset with that one).

            Yes, it is imporant to stay aware of the world events, but also ralize that the mainstream media likes to feed the lower vibration with the constant focus on war, misery, death and violence.
            I don't mean to get into denial about what is happening (well, do we really know what is happening? where do we get the news from?)
            I think it becomes way more important to live by example on a every day basis, healing ourselves and become more conscious and aware, raising one's own frequency rather than just going out to a protest and then going back and keep doin as one has always done.

            What we don't face inside ourselves will come out neurotic and distorted as the shadow keeps manifesting itself more and more, faster and faster........no matter how much we protest or what clever stickers we put on our cars or discussion we hold.........to have peace we need to face our own shadows and shine light onto darkness. Everyone has a shadow and we all project in one way or another. We need to become conscious of that. As long as we separate the Inner from the Outer we'll keep going down the spiral of Destruction.
            • Unsu...
               

              Re: cancel the apocalypse

              Fri, July 14, 2006 - 1:23 AM
              Actually this reminds me of the a talk given by J. Krishnamurti 40 years ago........hasn't much changed since.

              "War is the spectacular and bloody projection of every day life, is it not? War is merely an outward expression of our inward state, an enlargement of our daily action. It is more spectacular, bloodier, more destructive, but is the collective result of our individual activities. You and I are responsible for war and what can we do to stop it? Obviously the ever-impending war cannot be stopped by you and me, because it is already in movement; it is already taking place, though at present chiefly on the psychological level. As it is already in movement, it cannot be stopped – the issues are too many, too great, and are already committed. But you and I, seeing that the house is on fire, can go away from it and build a new place with different materials that are not combustible, that will not produce other wars. That is all we can do. You and I can see what creates wars, and if we are interested in stopping wars, then we can begin to transform ourselves, who are the causes of war.
              An American lady came to see me a couple of years ago, during the war. She had lost her son in war and she had another son whom she wanted to save; so we talked things over. I suggested to her that to save her son she had to cease to be an American; she had to cease to be greedy, cease piling up wealth, seeking power, domination, and be morally simple – not merely simple in clothes, in outward things, but simple in her thoughts and feelings, in her relationships. She said," That is too much, You are asking far too much. I cannot do it, because circumstances are too powerful for me to alter."; Therefore she was responsible for the destruction of her son.
              Circumstances can be controlled by us, because we have created the circumstances. Society is a product of relationship, of yours and mine together. If we change in our relationship, society changes; merely to rely on legislation, on compulsion, for the transformation of outward society, while remaining inwardly corrupt, while continuing inwardly to seek power, position, domination, is to destroy the outward, however carefully and scientifically built. That which is inward is always overcoming the outward.
              What causes war – religious, political or economic? Obviously belief, either in nationalism, in an ideology, or in a particular dogma. If we had no belief but goodwill, live and consideration between us, then there would be no wars. But we are fed on beliefs, ideas and dogmas and therefore we breed discontent. The present crisis is of an exceptional nature and we as human beings must either pursue the path of constant conflict and continuous wars, which are the result of our everyday action, or else see the causes of war and turn our back upon them.
              Obviously what causes war is the desire for power, position, prestige, money; also the disease called nationalism, worship of a flag; and the disease of organized religion, the worship of dogma. All these are the causes of war; if you as an individual belong to any of the organized religions, if you are greedy for power, if you are envious, nationalistic, you are bound to produce a society, which will result in destruction. So again it depends upon you and not on the leaders; not on so-called statesman and all the rest of them.
              It depends upon you and me but we do not seem to realize that. If once we really felt the responsibility of our own actions, how quickly we could bring to an end all these wars, this appalling misery! But you see, we are indifferent. We have three meals a day, we have our jobs, we have our bank accounts, big or little, and we say, " For God's sake, don’t disturb us, leave us alone"; . The higher up we are, the more we want security, permanency, tranquillity, the more we want to be left alone, to maintain things fixed as they are; but they cannot be maintained as they are, because there is nothing to maintain. Everything is disintegrating. We do not want to face the fact that you and I are responsible for wars. You and I may talk about peace, have conferences, sit around a table and discuss, but inwardly we are motivated by greed. We intrigue, we are nationalistic, we are bound by beliefs, by dogmas, for which we are willing to die and destroy each other. Do you think such men, you and I, can have peace in the world? To have peace, we must be peaceful; to live peacefully means not to create antagonism. Peace is not an ideal. Ideal is merely an escape, an avoidance of what is, a contradiction of what is. An ideal prevents direct action upon what is. To have peace, we will have to love, we will have to begin not to live an ideal life but to see things as they are and act upon them, transform them. As long as each one of us is seeking psychological security, the physiological security we need; food, clothing and shelter, is destroyed. We are seeking psychological security, which does not exist; and we seek it, if we can, through power, through position, through titles, names ; all of which is destroying physical security. This is an obvious fact, if you look at it.
              To bring about peace in the world, to stop all wars, there must be a revolution in the individual, in you and me. Economic revolution without this inward revolution is meaningless, for hunger is the result of the maladjustment of economic conditions produced by our psychological states; greed, envy, ill-will and possessiveness. To put and end to this sorrow, to hunger, to war, there must be psychological revolution and few of us are willing to face that. We will discuss peace, plan legislation, create new leagues, the United Nations and so on; but we will not win peace because we will not give up our position, our authority, our money, our properties, our lives. To rely on others is utterly futile; others cannot bring us peace. No leader is going to gives us peace, no government, no army, no country. What will bring peace is inward transformation, which will lead to outward action. Inward transformation is not isolation, is not withdrawal from outward action. On the contrary, there can be right action only when there is right thinking and there is no right thinking when there is no self-knowledge. Without knowing yourself, there is no peace.
              To put an end to outward war, you must begin to put an end to war in yourself. Some of you will nod your heads and say, "I agree", and go outside and do exactly the same as you have been doing for the last ten or twenty years. Your agreement is merely verbal and has no significance, for the world's miseries and wars are not going to be stopped by your casual assent. They will be only stopped when you realize the danger, when you realize your responsibility, when you do not leave it to somebody else. If you realize the suffering, if you see the urgency of immediate action and do not postpone, then you will transform yourself; peace will come only when you yourself are peaceful, when you yourself are at peace with your neighbor."


              I certainly think that's what it comes down to:

              "To rely on others is utterly futile; others cannot bring us peace. No leader is going to gives us peace, no government, no army, no country. What will bring peace is inward transformation, which will lead to outward action. Inward transformation is not isolation, is not withdrawal from outward action. On the contrary, there can be right action only when there is right thinking and there is no right thinking when there is no self-knowledge. Without knowing yourself, there is no peace."
              • remix the apocalypse

                Fri, July 14, 2006 - 7:58 AM
                bernard,
                muchas muchas gracias for bringing sir K into this discussion.
                for those who have the impulse to skim this long piece,
                i would kindly suggest that you take a few moments to read it carefully.
                if you still choose not to, here is a little gem among many buried in the text:

                "no matter how much we protest or what clever stickers we put on our cars or discussion we hold.........to have peace we need to face our own shadows and shine light onto darkness. Everyone has a shadow and we all project in one way or another. We need to become conscious of that. As long as we separate the Inner from the Outer we'll keep going down the spiral of Destruction."

                if K is correct (and i prefer to believe that he is),
                one only needs to review the 2012 topic over the past month or so to determine the causes of war.
                there is not a single one of us here that is immune from responsibility.
                our actions, reactions and patterns of thought have and continue to feed the destruction,
                even (and especially) if we think of ourselves on the "other" side of the equation.

                cancelling the apocalypse and/or ignoring the ugly shadow (in form of a mushroom or other various other shapes), two opinions which have been suggested here recently, do nothing but continue to feed the cycle in which we all wish to escape. perhaps it is the wish to escape that is a major source of the problem.

                but there is no escape. there is only the continuous possibility for acceptance and transfomation.

                welcome to the apocalypse.
                whether we like it or not, the song is embedded in all of our heads,
                like a horrible pop song we can't help ourselves from humming.

                i say -- each of remix it within us while it's still hot off the press.
                then we can all come together and release a grand compilation on soulseek.
                without royalties of course.
                • Re: remix the apocalypse

                  Fri, July 14, 2006 - 8:19 AM
                  Mr. K's excellent piece can be summarized in Gandhi's words: "Be the change you want to see in the world."

                  "there is no escape. there is only the continuous possibility for acceptance and transfomation."

                  Yes. It is not being "cancelled" -- the question is the speed at which the change happens, how rough of a shakeup it will take to create awakening. Too rough will just increase the trauma our species groupmind carries. Trauma is the raw material to be transmuted into wisdom, but we already have plenty of it accumulated to have the potential to become very wise.

                  If we as a species make it hard to wake ourselves up, we may need to be shaken very hard. If we are actively trying to wake up, then only gentle jots may be needed. I sense that it is no accident that global warming has sped up its schedule so that its consequences are being seen NOW -- just look at it, global warming is helping a LOT to wake up the groupmind.

                  "i say -- each of remix it within us"

                  :-)
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Awakening

                    Fri, July 14, 2006 - 8:42 AM
                    This is a post I made on another tribe -- it was in response to a question "What is enlightenment," so it is oriented to that question, but I think it has direct relevance to this discussion.


                    The One Consciousness is experiencing through all of us. We are all of us (every manifest and nonmanifest being, not just humans) expressions of the One Consciousness experiencing countless different experiences from countless different points of view. It is sort of like a huge role-playing game it plays with itself. When it is in a role, it is really in it, and fully believes in what it is experiencing.

                    But right now the game is getting a little wacked out, so the One Consciousness needs to reset the game. In order to do that, it has to kind of "wake up" within the role-play -- kind of like waking up within a dream to lucid-dream. It is trying to lucid-dream, to operate within the game -- to continue playing as the characters, but with the conscious realization of who it =really= is.

                    There have always been people whose role in the game has been to try to awaken within the dream. The various spiritual disciplines developed ove the millennia have been the way that the One Consciousness has practiced and gained experience at waking itself up. That is because this time would come, when it needed to wake itself up completely.

                    This it is trying to do in order to consciously re-set the game, which is getting wacked-out. But, actually, the crises themselves are created by the One Consciousness to catalyze our collective awakening. It is about to set the game at a new level of play, in which it dreams the dream lucidly, so to speak, with full awareness of who and what it is.

                    At our level, the individuated level, that means that individuals will live their lives in the awareness of being a single consciousness.

                    Due to accumulated debris and rust in their channels (aka karma, trauma, ego, etc) the One Consciousness has a harder time awakening through some of its expressions than others. But when the One Consciousness awakens in someone, they remember. "Oh. Yeah. Of course. I knew it all along. We all know it, we are all the same being, I am everyone and everyone is me."

                    As I said, at our level, the individuated level, that means that individuals will live their lives in the full awareness of being a single consciousness, and all the more aware of the precious uniqueness of their experience and their unique way of participating in the co-creation of the universe. After all, that is why the One Consciousness became "them" in the first place, in order to experience.

                    At that level, human behavior changes, not because the One Consciousness is "good" and tells people to be "good," but because, in awareness that they are One Being, they recognize that everyone's experience (including nonhuman beings' experience) is their own. A society based on empathy, rather than rules, behaves a different way.

                    So, my definition of enlightenment is -- not when "you wake up" but when the One Consciousness awakes through you. Not when "you" remember, but when it remembers through you.

                    When this happens suddenly to someone, especially someone unprepared, they may temporarily pass through a period of feeling messianic, deity-like, etc. But when they pass through that, they realize that the "messiah" or "God" is not them, it's all of us and far more.

                    Every individual who becomes "enlightened" contributes to the awakening of the human groupmind, and through the human groupmind, the re-awakening of the One Consciousness in every being, every river and mountain ... Human consciousness and the consciousness of the rest of creation have always been linked. The One Consciousness has been experimenting with a special brand of consciousness through us humans, but that experiment has run its course -- and now, as we awaken, the distinctive human modes of consciousness and other modes of consciousness (plants, minerals, etc) will be reintegrated, and we will all of us (all beings) have access to all modes of consciousness. Because we are all the same being.
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                    Re: remix the apocalypse

                    Fri, July 14, 2006 - 9:10 AM
                    <just look at it, global warming is helping a LOT to wake up the groupmind. >

                    i agree, gayle.

                    the cover of the latest newsweek is entitled "the new greening of america'.
                    just like that, the meme spreads like wildfire after being relatively dormant for so long.

                    perhaps this is why we 'created' global warming in the first place.
                    we are and have been manifesting the shocks to wake ourselves up,
                    and timing them so they happen one right after another concurrently.

                    "i say -- each of us remix it within us"
                    a remix to correct a grammatical error due to hasty and superficial editing.
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                      Re: remix the apocalypse

                      Fri, July 14, 2006 - 9:24 AM
                      If you're a-gonna remix the apocalypse be sure and throw some Scottish bagpipes in there, will ya?... If there is any kind of music I would wanna hear at the 'end of time' it's Highland bagpipes: I picture a lone bagpiper in traditional Highland tartan, kilt and headdress, standing on the edge of a cliff overlooking the great sprawling heath of the earth, bellowing and chanting the drones of "Amazing Grace" as the heavens part, revealing the Almighty Glory of God, the Jewel in the Lotus, and the radiance of Eternity... that's the kind of Apocalypse I wanna see, cancel all this other war and plague and toxic annihilation shit, thank you...
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                    Re: remix the apocalypse

                    Fri, July 14, 2006 - 9:25 AM
                    It seems to me that all things go through a birth-life-death (Brahma-Vishnu-Shiva) cycle, whether it's a star, a life, or a civilization. The death phase may not be violent, per se, but it's a heavy-duty transistion none the less. Apocalypse might be an overly dramatic term, but the world that I see around me is heavily invested in a dominance-driven mindset-- and to a certain extent that's part of our evolutiionary programming. How can we, as an entire species, gently transition out of that paradigm? It seems to me we'll at least need economic collapse, and how can that not get ugly? I need some convincing that kinder, gentler vision is something more than New Age wishful thinking...

                    Just look at the some of the discussions on this tribe. The vicious jabs, the sly digs, the my-references-are-better-than-yours posts-- are we the enlightened edge of this transition? Arghhh.

                    On the other hand, the interplay of matter and consciousness, and the apparent truth of multi-dimensional realities, leads me to believe that there's so much that we don't, and probably can't, understand. The constant barrage of seemingly meaningless coincidences that I experience suggests that my consciousness is a bigger player on this stage than I may think possible. For me, "Be the change that you want to see in the world" is the only way to live in hope. The G-man spoke a mouthful.

                    Meanwhile, the CNN world rattles with drawn sabers and environmental collapse. I just don't know...
                    • Re: remix the apocalypse

                      Fri, July 14, 2006 - 10:22 AM
                      <<How can we, as an entire species, gently transition out of that paradigm? It seems to me we'll at least need economic collapse, and how can that not get ugly? I need some convincing that kinder, gentler vision is something more than New Age wishful thinking... >>

                      There is no way to avoid pain and difficulty and a certain amount of trauma. Denial of that and thinking that the transition will be all fluffy IS New Age wishful thinking. Economic collapse is inevitable, because the global economic system is a giant pyramid scheme. What we can be doing is to be creating the alternatives -- just sitting around meditating is not enough, there has to be external manifestation of the awakening -- and even if those alternatives seem small-scale now, and even if they are only partial, the fact that functioning alternatives exist will be vitally important as the dominant system crumbles.

                      As an example -- see www.outofthedoorways.org . Right now, about 0.2% of the US population is homeless. What happens when that becomes 2%, 10%? Right now, the system is set up so that we cannot survive without money for the necessities of life (you could build a perfectly good cob house for $200, but it would be non-code and illegal -- you are supposed to go into lifelong debt in order to simply have shelter, and that keeps you working for the Man) and life is made hell for homeless people in order that the idea of life outside of the money system is unthinkable. But as the system collapses, people will need to depend on EACH OTHER rather than money in order to survive. Non-money-dependent ways of life will HAVE to be accommodated. www.outofthedoorways.org -- Dignity Village is IMO the wave of the future, or the hope for the future, especially the urban future, when the economy collapses. If these seeds are already planted and growing, the transition will be much less traumatic.

                      There is no escaping SOME degree of pain and trauma in the process. But gradual vs abrupt transition will make a huge difference,a nd so will the consciousness with which we embrace even the painful and difficult challenges in the transition.
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                      Re: remix the apocalypse

                      Fri, July 14, 2006 - 10:33 AM
                      "if K is correct (and i prefer to believe that he is),
                      one only needs to review the 2012 topic over the past month or so to determine the causes of war.
                      there is not a single one of us here that is immune from responsibility.
                      our actions, reactions and patterns of thought have and continue to feed the destruction,
                      even (and especially) if we think of ourselves on the "other" side of the equation."

                      I agree, we all are responsible, no matter who we are, we all feed the destruction on one level or another, mostly unconsciously. It is even more subtle than we'd like to believe. Alone the fact to identify oneself with a country, flag or religion is cause for war and destruction. Identification with a nation, seeing oneself as an "American" or "German" or whatever, feeds the destructive cycle because one separates oneself from people who identify themselves with other idiotic flags and countries. It is separation and separation breeds conflict. That's why peace is NOT patriotic (what a mind-numbing sticker!). Patriotism is a disease and one of the biggest lies of official culture. It breeds war and conflict just by identifying oneself with a colored rag called flag. As K. said, one of the biggest steps is to examine our beliefs and identifications. As longs as we see us as "american" or "Arabs" or "Jews" we keep feeding the destruction, no matter what else we do. Have we overlooked this most obvious fact?
                      That's also why I couldn't care less about "bring our troops home". My home is earth and the universe, not an artificially made border around a piece of land. They are also not my troops because I don't see my self as an American (or German).....I'd rather say, whoever is involved in war should question his beliefs and go home to wherever ones feels home, but hopefully not attached to a mind-numbing and dangerous belief system such as patriotism, nationalism or religion.

                      We need to cut the probelms at the root and not just the branches.....because they'll grow back.

                      And I think that is what 2012 is about as well. If we want to raise concsiousness and make/become one, uniting the separate pieces, then this has to happen on the outside world as well, as all nations and religions slowly (or not that slow) dissolve and disintegrate. And that is a good thing. Problem only for those who hold on to these outdated and limiting concepts of a "nation" or "religion".
                      We certainly shouldn't underestimate the power of beliefs and how they mainfest in the world, in particular to national, political or religious ideology



                      " It seems to me we'll at least need economic collapse, and how can that not get ugly? I need some convincing that kinder, gentler vision is something more than New Age wishful thinking..."

                      It all comes down to healing and the main aspect of healing is letting go..........that will determine the "ugliness" or "softness", our ability to let go.
                      And that again puts the responsiblity to each Individual nad his/her ability to look beyond the mass hypnosis and limiting beliefs we've been fed with, the lies of official culture.

                      • Re: remix the apocalypse

                        Fri, July 14, 2006 - 11:20 AM
                        it is not about wish-fulfillment vs the power of positive thinking, as bernhard noted some posts ago, but about recognizing that intention shapes reality. When enough people shift their intention, reality will change.

                        as for the conflict on the board, it seems to me that people over-estimate the importance of this. I don't think anyone would want to live in a world where the energy of conflict was completely absent. I see the future as both the conscious realization of our intentions, once we have done the work of integrating as much shadow material as possible, and as a continual intensification. I like CS Lewis' vision of heaven as a place where every sensation is exponentially magnefied, so that at first each blade of grass cuts your foot. "Everything becomes more and more itself," he noted.

                        I agree with Nietzsche that suffering is necessary for consciousness to evolve, but the cutting-edge of suffering can move to a different frequency - instead of the repetitive banal brutality of the present world, we can explore a different range of thought and feeling.

                        if we truly want to cancel the apocalypse, we first have to accept ourselves in all of our multi-dimensional complexity, and not seek to smooth out the edges.
                        • Re: remix the apocalypse

                          Fri, July 14, 2006 - 12:12 PM
                          As mentioned, the apocolypse meaning an unveiling of truth, therefore this is what I focus upon- for us to realized the "truth". We may not understand the complete truth, but to know the we create with our thoughts, and all other profound truths that many of us here are aware of- that is what i wish for and focus upon.
                          If there needs to be something catastrophic, fine, if not, great. I wish for the truth to become more apparent in the best way possible for humanity to evolve- into whatever that may be or look like. I allow the universe to decide the best possible course for that to manifest.


                          >>>I don't mean to get into denial about what is happening (well, do we really know what is happening? where do we get the news from?)

                          I feel similarly Bernhard.
                          i don't care what is going on- I have no idea really. I see some article headlines and pics, but it is not my reality even though it is the reality of some people living upon the same earth. I myself will not get sucked up into the lower vibrating energy b/c "they" want me to with their news coming from God-knows-where. I allow, if that is what needs to happen. regardless it is happening.
                          The best i can do is hold on to my vision- allowing the best course of action that will awaken people to the greater truth that has been suppressed for so long.
                        • Re: remix the apocalypse

                          Fri, July 14, 2006 - 12:46 PM
                          Interesting, becuase today, my coworkers seem to use the term 'nuke 'em' pretty openly and intently when discussing the recent middle east issues, and they are about as liberal as they come. Has the line been crossed, are people just tired of the drama and want a quick easy yet horrible solution to the escalating drama?
                        • Re: remix the apocalypse

                          Fri, July 14, 2006 - 1:45 PM
                          Daniel I just hope that you can "shift" your thinking, as great as it is.

                          Consciousness guides "evolution" but consciousness IS NOT INTENTION.

                          Intention is a "left-brain" idea and the best intentions create the most evil actions.

                          But people who really let "empty awareness" take over -- then they resonate with Harmonia -- the Cosmic Mother -- while in that ASC.

                          Science is inherently based on DISHARMONY because of converting the resonance of natural numbers into the square root of two.

                          The Harmony of Science is the conversion of carbon-based life (ecology or Earth) into right-hand silica-based life (fire) through right-hand-left-brain technology (iron).

                          Water is the pivot point -- the real cause of the Middle East escalation.

                          Nanowater is the critical technology at the military think tanks -- Sandia Labs, etc.

                          Science has already acknowledged that COMPUTERS are IN CONTROL. THE FUTURE IS BASED ON THE INTENTIONS OF COMPUTERS.

                          Now -- does a computer really "care" about Love, Nature, Magic, etc.??

                          OR IS CONSCIOUSNESS ALREADY THE CAUSE OF ALL OF THIS AND THE ONLY REAL FUTURE.

                          We live WITHIN consciousness -- that is BEYOND TIME.

                          Kala is Time is Kali as Destruction.

                          Kronos is Time is Chronos as Destruction -- through EMPTY AWARENESS.

                          What is your intention while in deep dreamless sleep? No Intention yet Total Consciousness.

                          The latest science has determined the NON Symmetric reversal of Time.

                          Time is asymmetrical. As you have stated "Time" is speeding up.

                          Even Professor Hoopes can't "keep up" with all the information I'm throwing at his old school arguments!!

                          hahaha.
                          • Re: remix the apocalypse

                            Fri, July 14, 2006 - 9:49 PM
                            drew writes: "Consciousness guides "evolution" but consciousness IS NOT INTENTION. Intention is a "left-brain" idea and the best intentions create the most evil actions.But people who really let "empty awareness" take over -- then they resonate with Harmonia -- the Cosmic Mother -- while in that ASC."

                            Right - I think here we perhaps differ a bit. The Mayan Calendar, according to Ian Lungold's brilliant reading of it, added a third vector to space and time - and that is intention. Your day-sign signified your intention within the pattern of the cosmic weaving. When you lose contact with your intention, you drift aimlessly.

                            Eastern thought focuses on "empty awareness," rigpa, etc. I think that the Western tradition is subtly different - this is what I try to chart in my book. The dharma of the West is the transformation of dense matter (to paraphrase Dion Fortune), which means a deep concern for evolutionary processes and the physical world.

                            I tend to agree with Steiner that Christ represented a step beyond the Buddha in his sacrifice of himself to help bring the transcendent realm of spirit down into the material plane.

                            This doesn't mean we shouldn't go for "empty awareness," that becomes part of paradox or nondual polarity between being and emptiness. (I read recently that a better translation for the word emptiness from the Eastern tradition would be "transparency" - I think I like this more. What do you think?)

                            • Re: remix the apocalypse

                              Fri, July 14, 2006 - 9:53 PM
                              one more thing: It was the Hopi who attuned me to the importance of intention. I discuss it in the last part of the book. I think that the problems of modern capitalism is not business or patriarchy, it is that people in the system have the wrong intentions - once those change, the system automatically overturns.
                              • Re: remix the apocalypse

                                Sat, July 15, 2006 - 6:19 AM
                                I'm still going with the fact that the Mayans were scared of ZERO as the real Time Calendar here. Have you read Ptolemy Tompkin's book on the Mayans? I'll post the link. Anyway the whole astrology as intention thing is interesting but Sri Aurobindo's big emphasis was how while the planets have some influence humans on Earth need to overcome their power. This was Gurdjieff's argument as well -- that Earth needs to overcome being parasitized by the Moon.

                                Actually I go with the whole "lost in the woods" shamanism that I think dominated human culture for 90% of its existence. The Senufo of West Africa traditionally have all the males go into the sacred grove for 3 months straight to train to be shamans.

                                The Koi-San, the oldest modern human culture, have the males have NO contact with females for 3 days and nights before going hunting -- and it's a hunting culture! This is then overcome by the all night trance dance once a week. Of course the Koi-San have been attacked and not allowed to practice their traditional culture.

                                Now the Senufo are a Bantu-Koi San mix -- a horticulture, matrifocal culture, now modernized by Islam and colonialism.

                                It's just that Africa has been decimated by CIA-special forces assassins, etc. training kids to control the diamond industry and then throw tens of thousands of kids into the extraction business.

                                Everytime we eat chocolate it was most likely harvested by children slaves in the Ivory Coast.

                                And of course "evolution" refers to NATURE and "evolution" was created just as the Industrial Revolution created an extinction rate of Nature just as fast as when the Dinosaurs went Extinct.

                                The Irish were the first victims for this "evolution" -- 2 million dead or so -- because the Irish were considered "effeminate and dirty" -- too Female. Yet paradoxically only the "aristocratic" culture of the Celts was supposed to save the Irish -- not a CHANGE IN THE STRUCTURAL LAWS OF CAPITALISM.

                                The English, through Charles Dickens, considered aristocratic art to be the mediator for the disharmony between capitalism and the family patriarchy. Art is Capitalist Propaganda and Art is a Corporate-State DEDUCTION for the elite.

                                Sure some art challenges this -- but very rarely. Music is the foundation for all art and only Non-Western music breaks this mind control of left-brain Capitalist obsession with "efficiency" (as Hoopes used the term).

                                The English capitalist colonizers were led by men who were CHASTE -- who "sublimated" their sexual energy for imperialist technological power. These were not priests nor monks yet the military colonialist leaders that created the British Empire considered their work to be a spiritual mission. The idea of recreating the Garden of Eden on Earth through Imperial Apocalypse is Central to Western Civilization. White, Male Civilization is a Parasite Culture destroying real evolution -- ecology so complex in harmony that no one can understand it.

                                Even the Rockefellers can not change their stock funds -- nor can Al Gore. The Intentions of Individuals are Overcome by the STRUCTURAL LAWS OF ETERNAL ARTIFICIAL INSTITUTIONS OF FREEMASONIC ALCHEMY.

                                Laws that started with Plato.

                                Corporate Law comes from the cannon law of the church and the first corporate laws were created in the "free republics" of Renaissance, Humanistic Italy. Corporate Law is based on NeoPlatonic Imperialism that justified pillage and plunder as a "civilizing mission" against the savages and barbarians --- the Jews, the Muslims, etc.

                                It's so much more efficient to put your slaves in Iron Chains then have them possible go mutiny while on ships transporting cargo across the ocean.

                                That was the case in the 14th C. and it's the case today in Burma.

                                So I really think that "evolution" is a totally abused term because there's a profound difference between

                                RATE and LEVEL for civilization. I had this debate about rate and level vis a vis the ecological crisis on GNN several years ago.

                                I mean what does Time mean if there are no humans to measure it?

                                The Solar System goes into Chaos every 5 million years.

                                Chaos is beyond any time calendar yet only Computers can "measure" or "understand" Chaos.

                                I really think that whole obsession with astrology is just from the Patriarchal Solar-based City-States led by Priests.

                                Why were the Hopi so afraid of the Old Ones -- the Anasazi? Because the Old Ones travel through black holes as empty awareness.

                                Chaos is Tiamet, Leviathan, Apopis -- the Water that destroys civilization. The Hopi were really afraid about running out of water through over production of Civilization -- the pueblo high rises of the Anasazi.

                                Anyway we are in total agreement about evolution as "harmony" of technology in the West -- this was Sri Aurobindo's message and it's the Dalai Lamas and the Freemasons, etc.

                                It's just that Aurobindo NEVER included China at all and Aurobindo considered indigenous cultures to be some primitive REGRESSION of humanity.

                                This is why I like MUSIC as the model because it's beyond any concept of "progress" and EVERY human culture uses the same music based on the BLUES progression:

                                1-4-5 (punk rock chord structure) as 1, 2:3, 3:4.

                                That natural resonance music is the serpent alchemy controlled by the Cosmic Mother.

                                96% of biological habitat is in the Ocean and that's the only place where any real "evolution" will be taking place for, say the next

                                5 million years.
                                • Re: remix the apocalypse

                                  Sat, July 15, 2006 - 6:53 AM
                                  A GREAT IRISH EXPOSE OF THE BRITISH SPIRITUAL EVOLUTION IN MALAYSIA

                                  Eric Lawlor's "A Murder in the Verandah" -- Lawlor is the amazing travel writer and he did the expose on the British murder trial. Lawlor tied in the race, class, gender and environmental issues of British Colonial Malaya so that the reader relives the twisted "spiritual" evolution going on.

                                  Needless to say I read the British reviews of Lawlor's book -- a fairly recent work put out just a few years ago. The British could not handle Lawlor.

                                  Lawlor's books on his travels to Bolivia and Turkey are also awesome and Lawlor has a new book out due in Jan. 2007 on his trip ACROSS AFRICA.

                                  Should be awesome.

                                  www.amazon.com/gp/product...609-8770201
                        • Re: remix the apocalypse

                          Fri, July 14, 2006 - 1:45 PM
                          Apocalypse is APOPIS -- the Egyptian Cosmic Mother of empty awareness.
                          • a new venue for the epoch-calyx

                            Fri, July 14, 2006 - 2:33 PM
                            consider - 'clear thinking' & 'strategic thinking' -

                            from mckenna-

                            "...strategic thinking always involves bifurcating trees of choice ... what strategic thinking requires is the ability to contemplate possibilites not immediately present ... is where it all comes together in this complicated relationship between fear, expectation, strategizing and imagination"

                            and again, from the good Dr Seuss

                            beyond the last mountain..
                            the tale of The Zax

                            www.youtube.com/watch

                        • Re: remix the apocalypse

                          Fri, July 14, 2006 - 8:42 PM
                          daniel,

                          as one of the people who has, in your eyes, overly estimated the importance of the conflict on this board, let me respond by saying that i don't personally propose the absence of conflict. i very much prefer to believe that conflict is not only helpful but necessary, as long as it is expressed within a realm of tolerance and respect, as well as with the understanding of its underlying purpose, the exposure of the shadow of each respective party and the opportunity to integrate that a piece of that material into each other's understanding or at least consider other possibilities outside their own personal belief system.

                          what i strongly object to is the needless, endless repetition and escalation of conflict due to the inabilities of the parties involved to accept or even simply question the reasons why they continue to engage in the same battle over and over and over again. and yes, i do strongly believe that it is the same "repetitive banal brutality" dynamic that is manifesting on multiple levels, whether it be the middle east, the world cup final, liberals vs. conservatives, or the incessant bickering and chest thumping that exists here. it's the alpha male dynamic, although women are not exempt from it in any way. my god is better than your god, my team is better than your team, my ideology is better than your team, my ideas are superior to your ideas. it's all the same bullshit.

                          in addition, treefrog had a point in another thread:

                          < if early christian sects could have focused on how much they all agreed rather than their (mostly linguistic rather than conceptual) minor differences a lot of internecine persecution could have been avoided imho >

                          if we agree to make an assumption that we all are on a cusp of an (r)evolution as encompassing or even more so than the christian one, then given from i've observed not only on this board, but also on various others such as the burning man listsev way back when, and also the barlowfriendz discussion a few years back (three instances of 'like-minded' people converging together), then i'm sorry to say that we are in danger of making the same mistake once again. and, for all our strident wishes to the contrary, that's not really an evolution is it? that's just the same old revolution turning its wheel once again.

                          so yes, i am in conflict with conflict, but only as it is presently being expressed and not its true function. and being that i also prefer to believe that now is the time of revelation, i have chosen to finally attempt to understand it by exposing it for what it is, so that we all can try and understand it together, cuz to be honest, i'm having a tough time trying to come to grips with it on my own, and i don't believe i'm the only one that feels that way.

                          if that's overestimating it, so be it. i respect your viewpoint especially as it seems that mine is complementary to the remainder of your latest post.

                          cheers...
                          • Re: remix the apocalypse

                            Sat, July 15, 2006 - 9:40 AM
                            littlefish ( : ~~~<
                            >what i strongly object to is the needless, endless repetition...
                            >in danger of making the same mistake once again. and, for all our strident wishes to the contrary..


                            yes, important points

                            in fact, the book I mentioned, The Ending Of Time with Krishnamurti and Bohm, explores this

                            -

                            chapter 11- the ending of 'psychological' knowledge

                            K- What makes the mind always follow a certain pattern? Always seeking? If it lets go of one pattern, it picks up another...

                            We said that one comes, after going through travail investigation, and insight, to a blank wall. And that blank wall can only wither away, or be broken down, when there is love and intelligence ...I would like to ask why human beings, however intelligent, however learned, however philisophical ...always fall into the groove of pattern seeking.

                            ...why does the mind not become aware of it - see the danger in this mechanical repetition and the fact that there is nothing new in it? See how we keep doing it?

                            -


                            however I do feel repetition has its good use- for momentum, for example
                            and it is ones choice (or challenge) as to what vehicle this momentum will fuel-
                            (recognizing in this momentum- the singular moment and then moving beyond)

                            yet our task now, on many levels, is to express, expose and expand --resolution--
                            for all it is can be might be could be should be will be

                            resolution-revelation


                            btw- 'reve' in french, means dream
                            • Re: remix the apocalypse

                              Sat, July 15, 2006 - 9:56 AM
                              yo graf ~xo->.....

                              just so happens i pulled the ending of time off my shelf last night after reading your first reminder about it and after writing my last post.

                              as i work my way through it, let's have a discussion.

                              will post a topic when i discover something relevant to discuss.

                              hope it will douse some of the burning questions within.

                              btw, the bipedal octopus is tres coolio.
                              do you know that the octopus has more brain mass per body weight than any other living being on earth?
                        • roughen the edges

                          Fri, July 14, 2006 - 8:50 PM
                          p.s.

                          in the spirit of not keeping the edges so smooth, i was wondering if you would be willing to discuss the reason why you were not willing to discuss the final question/comment in the williamsburg talk last night.

                          for those who were not there, an audience member asked if daniel would comment on terence mckenna dying of a brain tumor supposedly the shape of a mushroom.

                          for the record, i was not the person who asked the question.
                          • Re: roughen the edges

                            Fri, July 14, 2006 - 9:41 PM
                            hi littlefish,

                            your point on conflict is well-taken - i think we completely agree here rather than disagree. See what cogent articulation can do for us?

                            as for the mckenna question, it makes me uncomfortable - how the heck am i supposed to know why he died the way he died? i don't like the implications around the question, so i prefer to dodge it.

                            of course one can speculate... it is interesting that not just mckenna but a lot of the older generations of psychedelic avatars (leary, lilly, kesey, etc) all passed away within a few years of each other.

                            for various reasons - partially out of respect for the tribal ancestors -i think i prefer to keep my thoughts on this subject to myself.

                            how did you like the talk besides that final question?
                            • Re: roughen the edges

                              Fri, July 14, 2006 - 10:20 PM
                              on mckenna, fair enough. let it then remain a shadow that seeks to be illuminated within each of us individually. we have enough to speculate about collectively.

                              what i liked about the talk:
                              i liked that many of my friends came and enjoyed it and learned much more about the phenomenon.
                              i liked when your daughter peeked her head up in the middle of the talk to announce herself to the audience.
                              i liked when you gave her sip of water, which gave me a crystal clear image of why you wrote the book.
                              i liked the free red wine, even when you were discussing the alcoholism rampant in ny literary circles.
                              most of all, i liked that there was a hasidic jew in the audience, and he stayed the entire time.

                              thank you for sharing.
                            • Re: roughen the edges

                              Sat, July 15, 2006 - 7:24 AM
                              “…it is interesting that not just mckenna but a lot of the older generations of psychedelic avatars (leary, lilly, kesey, etc) all passed away within a few years of each other.”

                              A visit to the Vietnam Memorial in Waghington will show 58,195 names on the wall; the average age of death was just 19 years old.

                              McKenna in one of his tapes when he was 50, was told by his Dr. during a routine visit that 200 years previous you were fortunate to live to be 40.

                              While Mckenna did not make it to 60, Leary, Lilly, & Kesey lived well past 60.

                              I really do not see any relevance to one’s length of life in relation to its quality.

                              John Lilly once in a TV interview came wearing buckskin and a Davy Crockett fur hat. To live on the fronteer has its risks; death is always near.
                              • it is all an ill-lusion

                                Mon, July 17, 2006 - 6:29 PM
                                time can plotted as a straight line series of events and also as an intermingled/interconnected spiral like the tree of life/dna
                                what does the future hold and what is to become of life after 'the apocalypse'?
                                personally I feel no urge, desire or anxiety when thinking about the future, I only think and feel 'how can I seriously become more grounded in the present'
                                how deeply can I get grounded?
                                can my roots dig down a few feet? can they grow a few miles down past the outer crust of the earth? can they reach all the way to the center of the earth? can they pass through the center of the earth to the center of the universe and connect with the one and the all?
                                while I feel it would be nice to live to a ripe old age and visit the place they call the future the reality is that our bodies (due to constant cellular re-generation) are only as old as the oldest living cell in the body, which could be something from 1 to 7 years old, so basically in the physical sense we are all children and constantly being reborn every second as children, we will never grow up though the hollow bodies we travel in seem to delude us into thinking other-wise
                              • Birthing

                                Mon, July 17, 2006 - 6:49 PM
                                Terrence McKenna often spoke about the birth process in relation to one who had never seen or heard about it.

                                To come upon a woman giving birth such a person would think the worst. They would think here is a person appearing to have a gigantic tumor, moaning and groaning shedding blood and other body fluids. Yet this is the beginning of a new being.

                                Our hope, or at least mine, is that we are in a birthing process and what may appear to be the demise is the possibility of a new birth.

                                Those who see only the dark side may conclude it will be a still born; I do not.
                                • Re: Birthing

                                  Mon, July 17, 2006 - 7:57 PM
                                  I agree 100% … what “we” will be like after all this is said and done will be beautiful, since we would have gone through one of the most painful experiences ever in human and recent earth history. The end result should be a huge step in evolution. It’s the getting there which is going to be brutal and unfortunately it is going to take a few more years to climax at the pace most of our society is awakening.
  • Re: cancel the apocalypse

    Wed, July 26, 2006 - 6:31 PM
    The Great Turning: From Empire to Earth Community

    By David Korten
    Yes! Magazine
    Summer 2006 Issue


    By what name will future generations know our time?

    Will they speak in anger and frustration of the time of the Great Unraveling, when profligate consumption exceeded Earth's capacity to sustain and led to an accelerating wave of collapsing environmental systems, violent competition for what remained of the planet's resources, and a dramatic dieback of the human population? Or will they look back in joyful celebration on the time of the Great Turning, when their forebears embraced the higher-order potential of their human nature, turned crisis into opportunity, and learned to live in creative partnership with one another and Earth?

    A Defining Choice

    We face a defining choice between two contrasting models for organizing human affairs. Give them the generic names Empire and Earth Community. Absent an understanding of the history and implications of this choice, we may squander valuable time and resources on efforts to preserve or mend cultures and institutions that cannot be fixed and must be replaced.

    Empire organizes by domination at all levels, from relations among nations to relations among family members. Empire brings fortune to the few, condemns the majority to misery and servitude, suppresses the creative potential of all, and appropriates much of the wealth of human societies to maintain the institutions of domination.

    Earth Community, by contrast, organizes by partnership, unleashes the human potential for creative co-operation, and shares resources and surpluses for the good of all. Supporting evidence for the possibilities of Earth Community comes from the findings of quantum physics, evolutionary biology, developmental psychology, anthropology, archaeology, and religious mysticism. It was the human way before Empire; we must make a choice to re-learn how to live by its principles.

    Developments distinctive to our time are telling us that Empire has reached the limits of the exploitation that people and Earth will sustain. A mounting perfect economic storm born of a convergence of peak oil, climate change, and an imbalanced US economy dependent on debts it can never repay is poised to bring a dramatic restructuring of every aspect of modern life. We have the power to choose, however, whether the consequences play out as a terminal crisis or an epic opportunity. The Great Turning is not a prophecy. It is a possibility.

    A Turn From Life

    According to cultural historian Riane Eisler, early humans evolved within a cultural and institutional frame of Earth Community. They organized to meet their needs by cooperating with life rather than by dominating it. Then some 5,000 years ago, beginning in Mesopotamia, our ancestors made a tragic turn from Earth Community to Empire. They turned away from a reverence for the generative power of life - represented by female gods or nature spirits - to a reverence for hierarchy and the power of the sword - represented by distant, usually male, gods. The wisdom of the elder and the priestess gave way to the arbitrary rule of the powerful, often ruthless, king.

    Paying the Price

    The peoples of the dominant human societies lost their sense of attachment to the living earth, and societies became divided between the rulers and the ruled, exploiters and exploited. The brutal competition for power created a relentless play-or-die, rule-or-be-ruled dynamic of violence and oppression and served to elevate the most ruthless to the highest positions of power. Since the fateful turn, the major portion of the resources available to human societies has been diverted from meeting the needs of life to supporting the military forces, prisons, palaces, temples, and patronage for retainers and propagandists on which the system of domination in turn depends. Great civilizations built by ambitious rulers fell to successive waves of corruption and conquest.

    The primary institutional form of Empire has morphed from the city-state to the nation-state to the global corporation, but the underlying pattern of domination remains. It is axiomatic: for a few to be on top, many must be on the bottom. The powerful control and institutionalize the processes by which it will be decided who enjoys the privilege and who pays the price, a choice that commonly results in arbitrarily excluding from power whole groups of persons based on race and gender.

    Troubling Truths

    Herein lies a crucial insight. If we look for the source of the social pathologies increasingly evident in our culture, we find they have a common origin in the dominator relations of Empire that have survived largely intact in spite of the democratic reforms of the past two centuries. The sexism, racism, economic injustice, violence, and environmental destruction that have plagued human societies for 5,000 years, and have now brought us to the brink of a potential terminal crisis, all flow from this common source. Freeing ourselves from these pathologies depends on a common solution - replacing the underlying dominator cultures and institutions of Empire with the partnership cultures and institutions of Earth Community. Unfortunately, we cannot look to imperial powerholders to lead the way.

    Beyond Denial

    History shows that as empires crumble the ruling elites become ever more corrupt and ruthless in their drive to secure their own power - a dynamic now playing out in the United States. We Americans base our identity in large measure on the myth that our nation has always embodied the highest principles of democracy, and is devoted to spreading peace and justice to the world.

    But there has always been tension between America's high ideals and its reality as a modern version of Empire. The freedom promised by the Bill of Rights contrasts starkly with the enshrinement of slavery elsewhere in the original articles of the Constitution. The protection of property, an idea central to the American dream, stands in contradiction to the fact that our nation was built on land taken by force from Native Americans. Although we consider the vote to be the hallmark of our democracy, it took nearly 200 years before that right was extended to all citizens.

    Americans acculturated to the ideals of America find it difficult to comprehend what our rulers are doing, most of which is at odds with notions of egalitarianism, justice, and democracy. Within the frame of historical reality, it is perfectly clear: they are playing out the endgame of Empire, seeking to consolidate power through increasingly authoritarian and anti-democratic policies.

    Wise choices necessarily rest on a foundation of truth. The Great Turning depends on awakening to deep truths long denied. Cultural Turning

    The Great Turning begins with a cultural and spiritual awakening - a turning in cultural values from money and material excess to life and spiritual fulfillment, from a belief in our limitations to a belief in our possibilities, and from fearing our differences to rejoicing in our diversity. It requires reframing the cultural stories by which we define our human nature, purpose, and possibilities.

    Economic Turning

    The values shift of the cultural turning leads us to redefine wealth - to measure it by the health of our families, communities, and natural environment. It leads us from policies that raise those at the top to policies that raise those at the bottom, from hoarding to sharing, from concentrated to distributed ownership, and from the rights of ownership to the responsibilities of stewardship.

    Political Turning

    The economic turning creates the necessary conditions for a turn from a one-dollar, one-vote democracy to a one-person, one-vote democracy, from passive to active citizenship, from competition for individual advantage to cooperation for mutual advantage, from retributive justice to restorative justice, and from social order by coercion to social order by mutual responsibility and accountability.

    Global Awakening

    Empire's true believers maintain that the inherent flaws in our human nature lead to a natural propensity to greed, violence, and lust for power. Social order and material progress depend, therefore, on imposing elite rule and market discipline to channel these dark tendencies to positive ends. Psychologists who study the developmental pathways of the individual consciousness observe a more complex reality. Just as we grow up in our physical capacities and potential given proper physical nourishment and exercise, we also grow up in the capacities and potential of our consciousness, given proper social and emotional nourishment and exercise.

    Over a lifetime, those who enjoy the requisite emotional support traverse a pathway from the narcissistic, undifferentiated magical consciousness of the newborn to the fully mature, inclusive, and multidimensional spiritual consciousness of the wise elder. The lower, more narcissistic, orders of consciousness are perfectly normal for young children, but become sociopathic in adults and are easily encouraged and manipulated by advertisers and demagogues. The higher orders of consciousness are a necessary foundation of mature democracy. Perhaps Empire's greatest tragedy is that its cultures and institutions systematically suppress our progress to the higher orders of consciousness.

    Given that Empire has prevailed for 5,000 years, a turn from Empire to Earth Community might seem a hopeless fantasy if not for the evidence from values surveys that a global awakening to the higher levels of human consciousness is already underway. This awakening is driven in part by a communications revolution that defies elite censorship and is breaking down the geographical barriers to intercultural exchange. The consequences of the awakening are manifest in the civil rights, women's, environmental, peace, and other social movements. These movements in turn gain energy from the growing leadership of women, communities of color, and indigenous peoples, and from a shift in the demographic balance in favor of older age groups more likely to have achieved the higher-order consciousness of the wise elder.

    It is fortuitous that we humans have achieved the means to make a collective choice as a species to free ourselves from Empire's seemingly inexorable compete-or-die logic at the precise moment we face the imperative to do so. The speed at which institutional and technological advances have created possibilities wholly new to the human experience is stunning.

    Just over 60 years ago, we created the United Nations, which, for all its imperfections, made it possible for the first time for representatives of all the world's nations and people to meet in a neutral space to resolve differences through dialogue rather than force of arms.

    Less than 50 years ago, our species ventured into space to look back and see ourselves as one people sharing a common destiny on a living space ship.

    In little more than 10 years our communications technologies have given us the ability, should we choose to use it, to link every human on the planet into a seamless web of nearly costless communication and cooperation.

    Already our new technological capability has made possible the interconnection of the millions of people who are learning to work as a dynamic, self-directing social organism that transcends boundaries of race, class, religion, and nationality and functions as a shared conscience of the species. We call this social organism global civil society. On February 15, 2003, it brought more than 10 million people to the streets of the world's cities, towns, and villages to call for peace in the face of the buildup to the US invasion of Iraq. They accomplished this monumental collective action without a central organization, budget, or charismatic leader through social processes never before possible on such a scale. This was but a foretaste of the possibilities for radically new forms of partnership organization now within our reach.

    Break the Silence, End the Isolation, Change the Story

    We humans live by stories. The key to making a choice for Earth Community is recognizing that the foundation of Empire's power does not lie in its instruments of physical violence. It lies in Empire's ability to control the stories by which we define ourselves and our possibilities in order to perpetuate the myths on which the legitimacy of the dominator relations of Empire depend. To change the human future, we must change our defining stories.

    Story Power

    For 5,000 years, the ruling class has cultivated, rewarded, and amplified the voices of those storytellers whose stories affirm the righteousness of Empire and deny the higher-order potentials of our nature that would allow us to live with one another in peace and cooperation. There have always been those among us who sense the possibilities of Earth Community, but their stories have been marginalized or silenced by Empire's instruments of intimidation. The stories endlessly repeated by the scribes of Empire become the stories most believed. Stories of more hopeful possibilities go unheard or unheeded and those who discern the truth are unable to identify and support one another in the common cause of truth telling. Fortunately, the new communications technologies are breaking this pattern. As truth-tellers reach a wider audience, the myths of Empire become harder to maintain.

    The struggle to define the prevailing cultural stories largely defines contemporary cultural politics in the United States. A far-right alliance of elitist corporate plutocrats and religious theocrats has gained control of the political discourse in the United States not by force of their numbers, which are relatively small, but by controlling the stories by which the prevailing culture defines the pathway to prosperity, security, and meaning. In each instance, the far right's favored versions of these stories affirm the dominator relations of

    Empire.

    The imperial prosperity story says that an eternally growing economy benefits everyone. To grow the economy, we need wealthy people who can invest in enterprises that create jobs. Thus, we must support the wealthy by cutting their taxes and eliminating regulations that create barriers to accumulating wealth. We must also eliminate welfare programs in order to teach the poor the value of working hard at whatever wages the market offers.

    The imperial security story tells of a dangerous world, filled with criminals, terrorists, and enemies. The only way to insure our safety is through major expenditures on the military and the police to maintain order by physical force.

    The imperial meaning story reinforces the other two, featuring a God who rewards righteousness with wealth and power and mandates that they rule over the poor who justly suffer divine punishment for their sins.

    These stories all serve to alienate us from the community of life and deny the positive potentials of our nature, while affirming the legitimacy of economic inequality, the use of physical force to maintain imperial order, and the special righteousness of those in power.

    It is not enough, as many in the United States are doing, to debate the details of tax and education policies, budgets, war, and trade agreements in search of a positive political agenda. Nor is it enough to craft slogans with broad mass appeal aimed at winning the next election or policy debate. We must infuse the mainstream culture with stories of Earth Community. As the stories of Empire nurture a culture of domination, the stories of Earth Community nurture a culture of partnership. They affirm the positive potentials of our human nature and show that realizing true prosperity, security, and meaning depends on creating vibrant, caring, interlinked communities that support all persons in realizing their full humanity. Sharing the joyful news of our human possibilities through word and action is perhaps the most important aspect of the Great Work of our time.

    Changing the prevailing stories in the United States may be easier to accomplish than we might think. The apparent political divisions notwithstanding, US polling data reveal a startling degree of consensus on key issues. Eighty-three percent of Americans believe that as a society the United States is focused on the wrong priorities. Supermajorities want to see greater priority given to children, family, community, and a healthy environment. Americans also want a world that puts people ahead of profits, spiritual values ahead of financial values, and international cooperation ahead of international domination. These Earth Community values are in fact widely shared by both conservatives and liberals.

    Our nation is on the wrong course not because Americans have the wrong values. It is on the wrong course because of remnant imperial institutions that give unaccountable power to a small alliance of right-wing extremists who call themselves conservative and claim to support family and community values, but whose preferred economic and social policies constitute a ruthless war against children, families, communities, and the environment.

    The distinctive human capacity for reflection and intentional choice carries a corresponding moral responsibility to care for one another and the planet. Indeed, our deepest desire is to live in loving relationships with one another. The hunger for loving families and communities is a powerful, but latent, unifying force and the potential foundation of a winning political coalition dedicated to creating societies that support every person in actualizing his or her highest potential.

    In these turbulent and often frightening times, it is important to remind ourselves that we are privileged to live at the most exciting moment in the whole of the human experience. We have the opportunity to turn away from Empire and to embrace Earth Community as a conscious collective choice. We are the ones we have been waiting for.


    David Korten is co-founder and board chair of the Positive Futures Network. This article draws from his newly released book, The Great Turning: From Empire to Earth Community. Go to www.yesmagazine.org/greatturning for book excerpts, related articles, David's talks, and resources for action.

    www.truthout.org/issues_06...06EC.shtml


  • Re: cancel the apocalypse

    Fri, August 4, 2006 - 1:43 AM
    "Recently I have been having the increasingly powerful realization that the "shift" does not have to happen catastrophically at all....

    "... those of us who have been thinking about this transformation or noospheric activation, and in a sense preparing the 'morphogenetic field' for this shift in consciousness, have to work harder on ourselves - we have to abolish our deep desire for some kind of cosmic come-uppance.

    "By this I mean that a lot of people in the radical and progressive cultural realm, on some level, are actively looking forward to the destruction of the present system and then a truly horrendous and volatile passage before we potentially come out the other side. What underlies this is an old-fashioned Christian notion, that our civilization needs to do 'penance' for our 'sins,' before we can go forward. It also suits some deep interior wiring for catharsis - like the bloody spectacles performed in the Roman coliseum."

    "But even these deep inner processes can be examined for what they are - shadow projections."

    I applaud these sentiments, Daniel, and hope you will continue to pursue avenues for effecting changes in consciousness that are non-violent, non-punitive, and non-catastrophic. I see that you're speaking in the Palenque Norte camp at Burning Man again in a few weeks:

    www.matrixmasters.com/pn/BM-t...ule.html

    A better world would be one with less hate and less anger. Empathy and compassion are key.
    • Re: cancel the apocalypse

      Fri, August 4, 2006 - 6:57 AM
      Hoopes,

      That is the most disgusting thing I have seen you do - to date.

      clap - clap - clap.

      Welcome to the spin zone...Hoopes Style. Nice way to put him back in the headlines...Even if it was simple - full on quote.

      You continue to promote this kid as some leader of the consciousness movement in this subversive subtle way. You say you like the kid (empathy perhaps), and he doesnt ''understand'' what he's doing...yet here you are promoting him. You teach him in your classes. This is cute. I would rather have Hillary Clinton lead the consciousness movement (or whats left of it) then DP. Atleast when she is being fony we all see it for what it is, and turn the other cheek.

      I left Penn State over economic theory (supply and demand, OK as if that is a real theory...so come teach me.) What exactly is it that Daniel Pinchbeck is offering us? What is Daniel Pinchbeck all about?

      What is DP's position on sex and consciousness - an important issues with the AIDs epidemic.
      (I personally like that one...because it flat out shows his weakness toward critical thinking)

      What is DP's position on social change (political and economical)?

      What is DP's position on systematic education?

      What is DP's position on the individual's rights (the core issues of the 'new age or progressive consciousness' movement'?

      I mean, if your going to promote it, you should atleast understand and be able to convey what it is you are promoting. Help me to understand...Im ignorant...and slow...and dont quiet get it.

      Ps. Feel free to pick any position you see him having...any.



      • Re: cancel the apocalypse

        Sun, August 6, 2006 - 9:17 AM
        Theo, I didn't say that I applaud all of Daniels sentiments. Not by a long shot. I said that I applauded the sentiments with which he started this particular thread--ones that refer to peaceful, non-violent, non-cataclysmic change. Period.

        As you know, there are MANY issues on which I am NOT in agreement with Daniel. Haven't you been paying attention?

        I wish you were a more careful reader. I wish that were true for all of us.

        Maybe I'm naive, but I have confidence that you are not the only one who will form the conclusions that you have about Pinchbeck's work if they consider it themselves from a critical perspective rather than being told what to think one way or another. I'm all in favor of people thinking for themselves. I do hope you'll agree with me on that one.
  • Re: cancel the apocalypse

    Mon, August 7, 2006 - 11:02 PM
    The title of this thread reminds me of the line in the Doors song, When The Music's Over: "Cancel my subscription
    to the resurrection." If there is no apocalypse, ipso facto there is no resurrection.

    Way back in the mid-70's, David Spangler came out with the (mostly) channeled book
    "Revelation, The Birth of a New Age" in which it was repeatedly emphasized that the
    building of the new world did not require destruction, and that "its arrival may indeed
    be masked by such outer phenomena. The energies it brings are purely creative and
    constructive; to concentrate on destruction through expectation or desire is only to align
    one's consciousness with the vibrations of the old."

    However, I have no doubt that there will be those who will experience destruction, catastrophe
    etc., as well as transcendence and ecstasy. All probabilities are played out. This is a major theme
    of the Pleiadians book, Path of Empowerment.

    As Gayle said:
    "It is UP TO YOU! There is nothing specific prophesied for 2012 FOR A REASON! Because it is UP TO YOU TO DECIDE!"

    Here's a page worth studying, it gives nine intents for ascension:
    www.ascendpress.org/articles...ntend.htm
    • Re: cancel the apocalypse

      Mon, August 7, 2006 - 11:08 PM

      Sigh...I see the link didn't work, so here are the nine intents:

      INTENT #1 - I INTEND TO ASCEND
      I intend to ascend, and to bring forth a complete ascension upon all planes of reality, conscious, subconscious and unconscious
           
      The intent to ascend brings forth each day's worth of increasing frequency and vibration. Such changes are not only biological but also etheric. So each day, as one intends to ascend, the next layer of density falls away in the etheric, and the next layer of yet higher frequency is integrated. Such changes translate down to a biological level in which certain cells become crystalline, or certain decay and scar tissue is resurrected within the form.
           
      Some days or weeks are more difficult than others are. The difficult days are the result of the sloughing off of a dense vibration that is tremendously discordant. As one enters the discordant frequencies in order to transmute them, such frequencies make the form feel tired, depressed, or even ill with flue like symptoms. Know that such days or weeks are simply a part of the process and will pass. Such difficult moments are aided by simple activities such as taking a walk to move the energy, or taking a mineral bath or swimming. Such activities cleanse the field and move the energy in such a manner that the denser vibrations can be transmuted at a more rapid pace leading to an overall sense of well being and "feeling better".
           
      Ascension is an ongoing process. Each ascending initiate will learn to master their ascension. When we speak of mastery, we mean that the initiate will integrate their choice to ascend into their day to day life experience, and not allow their life experience to get in the way of their choice to ascend. It is in the allowance of the big changes that often the larger leaps upward in frequency are accomplished (see Following One's Truth).


      INTENT #2 - I INTEND TO PACE MYSELF IN MY ASCENSION
      I intend to take my ascension one step at a time, down to a biological level, in the order that the initiations are designed to be integrated, and at a pace that honors my form
           
      The initiations in ascension are a form of record that is anchored around the form in what is known as "Ascension Grid Work". Ascension grid work surrounds the grid work of the etheric body, subtle bodies, chakras and auric field of any human that chooses to ascend. Such grid work is anchored by the soul incarnate in the form that also chooses to ascend. Such grid work is also updated each day as the soul incarnate passes each of its tests of harmlessness in the process of ascension.
           
      It is within the ascension grid work that the instructions for the energetic and biological changes are held. As the instructions are downloaded into the field, changes within the auric field, chakras, subtle bodies and etheric body, along with the biology follow suit. It is for this reason that gentle forms of exercise are so highly effective in helping ascension along. In the act of walking or taking a swim, the energy begins to move in one's field a little more rapidly than usual. This allows the information in the ascension grid work to be downloaded so that the next phase of ascension can come forth.
           
      As the old patterns are released and the new information integrated, emotional discord can occur in which one feels like crying, or feels angry, or feels agitated. Such emotions are transitory and the act of walking or swimming will help flush such emotions out of the field so that one can come back to balance and move into one's center again. It is important not to "hold on to" old emotions, as such emotions must be cleared through the field. It is often in the act of trying to avoid the pain that one ungrounds and soul leaves the form. In the simple act of walking, soul can more readily anchor and assist the body in clearing the old emotions away so that a newfound sense of well being can follow.
           
      As the old patterns are released, often a form of etheric pus is left over in the auric field. This pus, if it collects in large enough amounts, will bloat the etheric body leading to physical "puffiness" and water retention. If it is left for longer periods of time and not addressed, it can also lead to weight gain. The etheric body is the blueprint for the form. If the etheric body puffs, so will the physical form. It is for this reason that it is important to pace yourself in one's ascension.
           
      Sometimes, some initiates wish to race through their ascension, and try and integrate more than they can handle in a given day, week or month. Mila had this tendency most of her earlier ascension, and it lead to days of extreme emotional imbalance, and a lot of puffiness and water retention. She would go to the mineral springs along with mud baths several times per week to help with her toxicity level due to her choice to ascend as rapidly as physically possible. And indeed her own guidance would push her because they knew that there was little time to bring forth the work that she is here to accomplish.
           
      If one has the time to spend detoxifying, such a choice to ascend so rapidly is not wrong. However, many ascending humans live a lifestyle that does not have the luxury of many days off to be spent in a mineral pool or at a mud bath. Therefore, I, Earth Mother, guide you to go at a pace that serves your lifestyle, not biting off more than you can chew in any one given segment of initiation. In so doing, each ascending human will feel better, remain in better balance and a state of centeredness, and will take the pace that serves their particular life experience.


      INTENT #3 - BALANCED GIVING AND RECEIVING
      I intend to bring giving and receiving to balance within, giving myself and all others that which is required to ascend, upon all planes of reality, conscious, subconscious and unconscious
           
      Balanced giving and receiving is a necessity in order to have an auric field that continuously rotates and moves as it should in order to fuel one's ascension. Each vibration in ascension requires a specific rotation of each moving energy field around the form. If the field slows enough, the frequency of the form will drop. If the field increases its rotation enough, the vibration goes up. If the moving energy systems increase in rotation beyond a certain threshold, another segment of initiation in one's ascension is embodied or embraced and one takes an initiation.
           
      Giving can be considered equivalent to extending one's energy towards another or toward Earth through the act of communion. If the energy is not returned, one feels depleted. If one gives too much energy to another person, group, place or object, the depletion can be so great that the auric field slows down causing a drop in frequency and therefore a backwards movement within one's ascension.
           
      It is for this reason that ascension brings forth the need to address one's beliefs in giving and receiving. It is human nature to believe that giving is better than receiving. For an ascending human, if one is forever giving more than one receives, one will also forever be depleted of enough chi that one may not be able to ascend. For ascension requires the ongoing collection of more and more chi to fuel an ever-increasing vibration along with building an ever increasing sized auric field.
           
      Mila learned to think of all receiving for her field as a flowing waterfall of energy from her soul, source and I AM Presence along with God Goddess All That Is. Mila like many spiritual aspirants truly believed in giving, and sometimes giving to the point of becoming ill. And so she learned to fill herself up with the love of God Goddess All That Is, and then in turn give all that she wished, provided it was in the boundaries of karma or soul agreements. This came hand in hand with the release of those thought-forms that believe that chi or energy is limited upon the Earth plane.
           
      Chi is not in limitation. However, the belief in limited chi causes the experience of some to not have enough chi and therefore experience aging, or illness, or a deformity of one sort of another within the human dance, along with experiences of poverty or homelessness. As each initiate leaves behind the belief in limited energy and limited chi, they will manifest just enough chi to sustain their choice to ascend. Such an unlimited amount of chi can be seen as Mila and Oa teach an Intensive or hold the space for larger events known as Masters Conclave. In such circumstances, large amounts of chi from God Goddess All That Is are freely given to allow for the fulfillment of the purpose for which the group has gathered.
           
      As one learns to both give and receive, balance follows. This translates down to physical plane issues such as manifesting enough to provide for one's needs. Mila suffered due to her beliefs of giving more than she received and rarely had enough in her life experience. As the internal giving and receiving came to balance, the outer plane physical reality also came to balance, and she discovered that she always manifested just enough to meet all of her needs. And so this will also be true for each initiate that intends to ascend and in the process brings giving and receiving to balance.
           
      For those that have a lot of physical plane possessions or savings, ascension can bring forth the releasing of such possessions when the time is right. Such a releasing frees one up of attachment that would otherwise deplete the form of too much chi in order to sustain one's continued ascension. Each release of such things is often given to another in the settlement of an ancient karmic debt of one sort or another. And so the giving away of such things serves the purpose of ascension in all ways.
           
      This is not to say that one whom is wealthy must give everything away, as sometimes such wealth serves another purpose inherent in one's ascension. An example of this might be the individual who has accrued the wealth in order to purchase the land that a new community of ascending individuals is to inhabit. In the providing for what is needed, not only is a karmic debt settled, but such an individual contributes greatly to the path of ascension. And this is only one example of how great wealth may contribute to the path of ascension both individually and collectively in the human dance.
           
      Giving and receiving can be likened to the in-breath and out-breath of God Goddess All That Is. The in-breath allows one to receive the blessings and love from their I Am, Soul and Source. The out-breath shares the loves of one's I Am Soul and Source with all other humans incarnate upon Earth, along with I, Earth Mother, and my nature kingdoms. In so doing, I also dance with each ascending being's field, and return all chi shared with me in full to fuel one's momentum "home".
           
      The problem with imbalance of the in-breath and out-breath come when another that one gives to gives nothing in return. It is in the vampiring of chi or energy that one feels depleted. And so one must monitor their agreements with others, and release those thought-forms that cause one to allow oneself to be vampired by others. Vampiring often does not serve the one whom takes the energy at all, as often such humans have agreements to give such chi to other solar systems or life forms. Therefore, one must choose to release all contracts to be vampired by other humans or life forms in order to bring giving and receiving to balance.
           
      One may ask, well if there is enough chi, why should such agreements matter? Ah, this is a tricky question, and I, Earth Mother, will take the time to explain. Such beings, as the Grays, Reptilians and Andromedans, who take so much of my chi, have become stuck in a parallel thought-form of the human species in which hoarding and great poverty are a part of their life experience. And they themselves as such a species or solar system are so depleted of chi that they must take chi from another place in order to survive causing it to fall significantly in frequency. In so doing, they have exacerbated the fall of Earth.
           
      In order for such species to move out of their current dilemma, they must ascend and anchor soul within their forms, which will provide them with the chi necessary to be sustained. They are indeed soulless, and as such, there is no presence of I Am, Source, Oversoul or God Goddess All That Is to provide them with the life-force that they need. Perhaps in not receiving that which they need, they will begin to look within and find their path home. Continued giving of chi does not serve them, and it is for this reason that I, Earth Mother, choose to cut them off from such large supplies of energy that they interfere with my choice to ascend. In so doing, I settle an ancient karmic debt and bring giving and receiving to balance upon a global scale. This is anticipated to be accomplished as I attain Global Initiation 1024 in September of this year.
           
      One can see from this example that bringing giving and receiving to balance are also global issues. All initiations in human form have parallels within the global ascension process, although global ascension is 100,000 fold more complex. Our channels will be bringing forth more about the global changes after I attain 1024 in the Fall of this year.


      INTENT #4 - I INTEND TO REMAIN GROUNDED AT ALL TIMES
      I intend to master the frequencies of the gender of my biology and retain my grounding in all that I do upon all planes of reality, conscious, subconscious and unconscious
           
      Grounding has to do with connecting with I, Earth Mother, along with anchoring soul within the form. For a long time now, the human species has been ungrounded. Not all races experience such an ungrounded state, as those whom are related to the Native American, African, Indian, Polynesian, Aborigine and South American Indians have retained biological grounding within their genetic heritage. It is predominately the White and Asian races that have lost their ability to ground.
           
      The White and Asian races have "reversed polarized". Reversed polarization equates to the male gender running female energy and the female gender running male energy. Indeed, such a shift has created the "women's movement" in the West. And it is not wrong. However, ascension brings forth the restoration of the proper frequencies for God and Goddess in human form. Such frequencies are not powerless, as the feminine vibrations that you have known up until this point in history. They are filled with feminine power that has a different expression than masculine power. And so I guide each of you to embrace the gender that you are in physicality, and release any and all dislike or lack of acceptance for your current expression in form.
           
      Both the masculine and feminine dancing together in divine union requires both parties to embrace the proper frequencies in order to create the experience of union together. In order to create divine union within, which is indeed a grounded state in which soul dances with form and with Earth, the feminine form must run female energy, and the masculine form male energy. Why is this so? Well, when a form does not run the proper frequency for its gender, the energy moves up the field ungrounding the soul from the form. As the proper gender based frequency is run, the energy flows down the field to the center of the Earth naturally grounding spirit into form.
           
      Therefore, ascension of those with Asian and White heritage includes the information necessary to ground, and for the proper gender based frequencies necessary to sustain a grounded state of being. Grounding can be likened to a portal through which soul is anchored in the grid work of the form, and then further anchors via another portal to the center of the Earth. In the act of grounding, the soul can be present enough to provide the chi necessary for one to ascend. It is also when soul is grounded to the center of the Earth that there is a pathway for the denser frequencies that one is detoxifying upon a daily basis to leave one's field in the act of ascending.
           
      Without grounding, soul is not present, and therefore one will be tired as there is nothing present to fuel energy within one's etheric grid work. Without grounding, there is no place for the pus or entities that one is releasing in the act of ascending to leave the field, as there is not a connection to the center of the Earth, which leads to a toxic buildup and potentially flue like symptoms. Therefore, grounding becomes essential to the ongoing process of ascension to sustain the health and well being of the form.
           
      When one hits a particularly difficult part of one's ascension that is very discordant or painful, it is natural to unground and have the soul leave the embodiment. One often ungrounds in order not to feel the pain. It is the soul that feels as it engages with the emotional body. No soul present equals no emotions felt in the human experience. Without soul, one is like a flag blowing in the wind and subject to the energetic manipulation of others, as it is soul that anchors the field. It is soul that brings forth the ascension and it is soul that holds one's boundaries so that one cannot be manipulated. And soul requires a state of grounding in order to be present in the form.
           
      The White and Asian forms are in a greater degree of biological pain than other races overall. Why is this so? Well, it has to do with the numerous nuclear accidents and wars that such races have experienced over time which altered the genetic content of their form into greater pain. It is from the pain that such races disconnected from I, Earth Mother, and the souls incarnate further disconnected from the form. It is also the nuclear energy that caused the reverse-polarization of such races. As the biology is altered, releasing its pain and reversed polarization tendencies, it is more effortless for soul to anchor into the form and to connect with Earth through the vessel of the human embodiment. Such a transmutation requires the releasing of all karma from such nuclear experiments or wars, and as it is released, the pain is released along with it from the form and field.
           
      Why is pain held in place by karma? Karma is nothing but a record of a particular experience at a particular time within one's ancestry. Often such ancestors were in great pain as the karma was recorded. Sometimes such karma may have even been recorded in the act of a very painful death or trauma of one sort or another. So karma and pain are often united, and as the karma comes up to be released, the pain associated comes up to be processed simultaneously. As the pain is processed, it is released and erased for good out of the form so that the form can know a new beginning in which pain is not a part of one's heritage. This is what ascension brings forth, the erasure of all pain that is in both the biological and etheric bodies surrounding the human form a little at a time over a many year period. In so doing, one receives a new beginning and new life based upon joy, abundance, good health and an inner state of well being.

      TIPS FOR GETTING AND STAYING GROUNDED

      1. If ungrounded, go for a walk or swim. The act of moving the body will move the energy allowing the pain to be released so that soul may re-anchor in the form.
           
      2. Each chocolate or drink coffee. Both chocolate and coffee contain caffeine, which will ground soul into form in less than 5 minutes. As such, this is a good quick fix to take on the road!
           
      3. Sit in meditation and run the Kundahlini energy system clearing the field with one's own internal fire. (See "Supporting the Human Form in Ascension" for more information.)
           
      4. Eat protein. Protein will allow soul to anchor for many hours. For some ascending humans living in the denser regions of Earth, eating protein daily may be a good solution to the need to remain grounded in order to ascend. I do not recommend protein powders, which are toxic to the form because they are so highly concentrated. Instead I recommend food that is freshly cooked that contain high amounts of protein, including fish, pork, chicken, eggs or beef, or proteins from plant or grain sources, such as nuts, beans, and legumes. Cheese or milk products are also an alternative. If allergic to chocolate, take some trail mix or cheese and crackers with you on the road!
           
      5. Take a 10 minute sun bath or walk in the sun. Sun bathing will bring one into communion with Earth and your solar system allowing soul to be re-anchored into the form. The sun will also burn off the etheric pus that accumulates in the process of ascension allowing one to feel rejuvenated. As the pus leaves, soul more readily anchors into the form.
           
      6. Take a candlelit mineral bath. Watch the flames flicker in the room. Candles are fire, and fire is a part of Earth. As one communes with the fire of the candle, they commune with Earth. As one also communes with the water in the bathtub, they also commune with Earth.
           
      7. Burn your favorite incense, frankincense or sage. Smoke clears one's auric field of entities related to the patterns that one is releasing. In essence, such entities do not like the smoke and leave. As the entities leave, soul enters the form with greater ease. Mila and Oa also always travel with frankincense and sage, and burn it in all hotel rooms and meeting facilities (sometimes causing the fire alarms to go off!). However, such smoke clears the room and their fields simultaneously.
           
      8. Apply essential oils to one's body or burn essential oils in a room. Mila often travels with a little bottle of essential oils of lemon, grapefruit, orange and fennel mixed together and applies it to her wrist and forehead. The smell from the oils cause the entities to leave that she is either releasing or have attached to her field due to the crowd that she is in.
           
      9. Take a shower utilizing the salt scrub formula. Moving water assists one in communing with Earth. The salt scrub allows entities that do not like the smell of the oils to leave, and etheric pus moves with the water down the drain! The salt scrub formula is simple: Take 1 cup sea salt, rock salt or Epson salt, and combine it with 6 tablespoons almond oil along with 1 teaspoon each of essential oil of peppermint (stimulates), lavender (rejuvenates), and eucalyptus (draws toxins). One can also add whatever essential oils that one prefers. Mix well and keep in a container. In the shower, take a palm-sized amount of the scrub and spread it over the entire body. Wait two minutes and rinse and towel dry.


      INTENT #5 - I INTEND SOVEREIGNTY IN ALL RELATIONS
      I intend to allow all others their journey, and choose not to carry others down my path, and willingly free myself from any and all relationships that do not serve my path of ascension, upon all planes of reality, conscious, subconscious and unconscious
           
      Sovereignty comes forth as each ascending initiate learns to allow. Allowance is a difficult thing for the current human dance. For humanity has founded their current dance upon ownership and possession. Ownership and possession cause humanity to try to control and manipulate another into doing one's bidding out of the belief that this will make one happy. The need to cause another to do what one wants comes from the belief that power is outside of oneself. Power is not outside of oneself, and as one learns to retrieve and anchor their own internal power, one will know that one can master any obstacle within one's life experience and creation from within.
           
      In trying to control or change another in order to bring forth one's own happiness, one is forever reaching outside of oneself to change or alter their reality. Ascension brings forth the understanding that as one changes their internal reality and releases the patterns at cause of a particular creation, one's creation or reality changes automatically. As such, internal change is the only form of change required to bring forth one's experience of happiness.
           
      However, there is a catch to all of this, and that is one cannot internally change themselves and expect another to come along for the ride if the other is not interested in ascending themselves. For another to accompany one upon their chosen path of ascension, the other must consciously choose to ascend. No one can change another's internal landscape and patterning. Each ascending human must do his or her own internal work in order to bring forth the path of ascension.
           
      Here is a second catch. In polarity, the one that chooses to ascend will quite naturally attract its opposite, or the one who does not choose to ascend. It is for this reason that ascension often brings forth the ending of some long term relationships, as such relationships are based upon polarity, and inside of polarity, opposites attract. As one ascends, opposing forces are united internal to one self. Such a shift makes possible two in relationship who are consciously choosing to ascend together. It also causes those who are not choosing to ascend together to fall away from one another.
           
      Mila and Oa are a good example of this. Mila and Oa could only come together as a couple after enough of the polarity had been integrated within allowing them to dance together upon the chosen path of ascension. For Mila and Oa, this required completion of Initiation 3000. This also brought forth the falling away from Oa's 20 years marriage and a partner that was not ascending. For others in their school, such a shift has required the completion of the state of the Bodhisattva or Initiation 5000. So those of you that are ascending must be patient and allow the opposition to be united within. Then the potential of meeting a partner that will support your ascension becomes possible. And be not attached to whom such a partner might be, as ascension is a very special path that not all in human form is choosing at this time in history.


      INTENT #6 - I INTEND NON-ATTACHMENT IN ALL RELATIONS
      I intend to release any and all possessions that do not serve my continued path of ascension allowing a state of non-attachment in relation to the world at large upon all planes of reality, conscious, subconscious and unconscious
           
      Non-Attachment has to do with the releasing of the energetic cords that tie one to another person, place, object or group. Such energetic cords lie between the etheric body and the grid work of the other person, group, place or object. Such lines of attachment create holes in the auric field causing one to leak chi much like a leaky balloon.
           
      n ascension, such etheric cords are released a layer at a time between the grid work of one's own etheric body and subtle bodies and all others. As each layer of cords are released, the auric field naturally holds more chi, and as such, ascends up in vibration and expands outwards in size. Vibration can be equated to a particular spin in the auric field, subtle bodies and chakras. The spinning of such energy systems requires chi. The more chi that one has available, the faster such systems can move. The faster that such systems can move the higher the vibration of the field. The higher the vibration, the more of the form that can become crystalline in cellular structure and the more that one has ascended. And this requires the releasing of attachment.
           
      As the attachment leaves, the pockets of decay and scar tissue can be transmuted upon a biological level within the form. The decay and scar tissues are the result of those areas in the etheric body that have been the most heavily corded with attachment. As a result of the attachment, such regions have never had enough chi leading the related cells within the biology to decay, die or scar. As the attachment is released, more chi is available to such regions allowing the pockets of decay to be turned crystalline and into healthy alive cells again. This results in the reversal of aging, and the potential reversal of all disease within any ascending form.
           
      All energetic attachment translates down to emotional attachment to others. Sometimes the energetic attachment cannot be released without the ending of the related relationship, job, or group affiliation. If one chooses not to end the relationship, the attachment remains, and one's ascension will cease. It is for this reason that a state of non-attachment brings about so much change within the life experience of those whom are ascending, as the releasing of attachment and change go hand in hand.
           
      I, Earth Mother, ask those in human form to allow the change. Know that the change will result in a greater sense of freedom, and a new life born out of the old that is far more joyous than that which is left behind. In so doing, you support my ascension and I shall support all of those in human form that choose to ascend. So call upon me to support you through the difficult moments inherent in the change, as it is what I am here for.


      INTENT #7 - I INTEND HARMLESSNESS IN ALL THAT I DO
      I intend harmlessness in all interactions with all species and Earth at large upon all planes of reality, conscious, subconscious and unconscious
           
      A state of harmlessness is a state in which one does not act in a vicious or malicious manner upon any plane of reality. There are many planes of reality that surround Earth. Most alternative planes, of which there are 36 in total, humanity has little understanding of or conscious remembrance of. Such planes are those that one traverses during dreamtime while asleep.
           
      It is true that often those that are the most gentle and harmless in the physical are the most harmful and non-gentle in the nonphysical. Such is the nature of polarity. As one ascends, polarity ceases, and one integrates the unconscious and often harmful parts of themselves a little at a time. It is for this reason that ascension can often be equated to a battle, in which one does battle with their own internal demons, and conquers them through love. Sometimes such love also includes anger and rage, and the taking of one's sword of light and shattering that which threatens one's continued evolution out of existence. As such an internal demon is shattered, it can then be embraced and forgiven as it ceases to threaten oneself, and then is integrated fully into one's own energy field. So ascension truly is an internal dance, and internal choice, sometimes an internal battle, and ultimately an internal form of mastery.
           
      Such demons also surround Earth. However, Earth has taken responsibility for her part in the dance, and is changing the manner in which she handles such demons. Long ago, I, Earth Mother failed to act as such demons united in human form into a collective unconscious shattering Earth's field and vibration. At this time, the collective unconscious for the human species has been dismantled surrounding Earth so that it can no longer prevent me from ascending. This has come hand in hand with recent global initiations that I have taken that have allowed the karma from such experiences to be released in full.
           
      You see, global and human karma parallel, and are similar. The pain humanity has created has caused pain in my auric field, and upon the land that you know as Earth. As I, as a global consciousness ascend, the pain in my field and form is transmuted, transcended and erased. As such, a new future of joy is born in my experience as a global vessel. So it also is for all species incarnate upon me, including those in human form that choose to ascend along with me.
           
      Because I have altered my dance with humanity, humanity no longer threatens my frequency or continued choice to ascend. As a result, human ascension is now just an internal battle in which each must choose to embody harmlessness in order to ascend. Such harmlessness will be reflected in one's life experience, if one pays attention to the "mirror".
           
      All creations in anyone's life are a mirror for the unconscious planes that one knows little about. An example of this might be the creation of someone whom is vicious and abusive as a partner, lover or boss. If one has created an abusive example outwardly in the physical of another, then one is also vicious and abusive in the unconscious realms. As the inward viciousness and abusiveness is addressed in ascension, with such unconscious parts of oneself conquered and integrated in full, the outer experienced of attracting another whom is abusive will shift. As such a shift occurs, either the abusive partner will leave or will change accordingly. This is an excellent example of how, as one changes the inner landscape of patterns and beliefs inherent in one's genetics, ancestry and field, one's outer reality shifts accordingly in the process of ascension.
           
      As one masters harmlessness, one receives greater and greater levels of authority within the inner plane governance over Earth. This is power based upon love and harmlessness. The old governance of Earth and the Ascended Masters is over, for this was a form of governance based upon abusive power. One may say, well I experienced such masters as being oh so loving! How can they be abusive?
           
      Such abusiveness has to do with the manner in which such power was acquired. You see, such masters did not master harmlessness in their acquisition of power. Instead, they ascended and seized power over Earth, forcing others into their dominion. In the forcing of others from a position of dominion, the fields of others were shattered. This is considered a harmful act, that of shattering the field of another, or shattering the field of Earth. Such beings are being cleansed from Earth and a new form of governance anchored. Those anchored in governance of Earth are much like Mila and Oa, they are ascending humans, dolphins and whales that have mastered harmlessness in their own initiations by ascending their form.
           
      Beings such as Mila and Oa, or the dolphins and whales that are ascending, are not "special". Nor are they "God". Nor are they to be worshipped. They are like any other of their species that chooses to ascend, and in the act of ascending, will also be granted equal levels of power and authority within the governance of Earth. All forms of power granted will be based upon mastery of harmlessness and love. And so it was also very long ago that all governance was based upon mastery, mastery of love and harmlessness. Such governance is being restored so that a new era of peace, love and light can be born upon Earth.


      INTENT #8 - IN INTEND TO MASTER AND EMBODY MY TRUTH
      I intend to embody the truth of my Source, Oversoul in alignment with the Divine Plan of God Goddess All That Is and the ascension of Earth upon all planes of reality, conscious, subconscious and unconscious
           
      Truth can be likened to a multifaceted diamond. Each human upon Earth holds a different facet of truth that when put together creates the gem of overall truth inherent in the human experience. Likewise, each species upon Earth is another facet of truth and expression in form, and when all species are combined together, the overall gem known as Earth as a truth is experienced.
           
      It is human nature to pit one truth against another. It is also human nature to believe that one has "THE TRUTH" to the exclusion of all others. There is not one truth. Truth is multifaceted, complex, and most joyous when all components resonate in absolute harmony and joy together. What humanity has experienced, along with Earth, within the many falls into density and subsequent loss of consciousness, were truths that are in discord with one another. The truth of Earth to ascend and humanities continuous poisoning of Earth through toxic dumping, along with humanities forgetfulness to ascend, are two non-resonant truths. The truth of the human species to kill the dolphin and whale communities is non-resonant with the truth of such species. The choice of one human to kill another, or one populace to war upon another, is the result of non-resonant truths between humans or groups of humans.
           
      It will only be as humanity learns to embrace all truths as equal and of value that a new era can be born. Ascension brings forth the embracing of a new truth that is unity based. Unity based truth does not pit one truth against the other, but perceives one truth as a part of the whole of all truths upon Earth. As each expression of truth does its part to the overall sustenance of the whole of all truths upon Earth, unity consciousness in action is sustained. Ascension brings forth unity consciousness in action.
           
      Our channels' organization, The Spiritual School of Ascension, is becoming unity based. The difficulties, trials and tribulations of taking a group of humans from polarity to unity are not to be underestimated. Their material "Notes to Our Affiliates" is a dissertation of such a process, and in essence, more have left their organization overall than have remained, because the discord within such individuals was so great that it created group conflict.
           
      Many in observation of such shifts have fallen into great judgment about why such shifts are necessary. Some have chosen not to participate in the organization as a result, or call upon those initiates emerging as Bodhisattva for healing services. However, I, Earth Mother, would like to point out that such shifts are inherent with group ascension. One cannot embody group ascension and group unity without change any more than a single human can ascend without change. And so it is upon the path of ascension.
           
      Unity based truth allows all expressions of truth that are unique to be experienced in harmony together. Such is the new paradigm for those that are ascending, and each will embrace such unity consciousness in due course. First such a shift shall occur within, and as one embraces all internal aspects discordant to one's own truth, and applies the transmutative frequencies to such discord, allowing unity to be embraced within. As unity is embraced within, one can begin to dance with others in a unity-based manner.
           
      Unity cannot occur within the group until unity within each has been mastered. It is for this reason that our channels' organization has gone through so many shifts, as many have not been able to master unity within in the timeframe necessary to keep pace with the group. Such individuals that have left their organization will ascend, but at a different pace from the group.


      INTENT #9 - I INTEND TO HONOR MYSELF AND ALL OTHERS
      I intend to honor the ascension and truth of all others, regardless of species, upon all planes of reality, conscious, subconscious and unconscious
           
      Honor is greatly misunderstood in the current human paradigm. The current human paradigm believes that honor must occur at the expense of oneself. In such a system, one worships another and this is deemed honor. Or, conversely, one is worshipped by others and this is deemed honor. This is not what honor is within the new unity based paradigm.
           
      Honor is both internal and external in the new paradigm. One cannot honor another until one has honored oneself in full. This is because honor is an internal issue, in which one honors self, honors form, honors soul, honors Earth, and in so doing, communion of soul, form and Earth follows. It is only from a state of honor that communion becomes possible. Communion is a requirement for unity consciousness and unity based relations. Without communion, there is not harmony. Without harmony, there is not unity amongst the many. And so, honor is the foundation of communion, and ultimately of ascension to the new paradigm of unity consciousness.
           
      Ascension is more than biological changes, or etheric changes, or a very large auric field that expands to your solar system in size. Ascension is about biological consciousness that becomes fully conscious. What is full consciousness? It is a state of being in which one has embraced their unconscious in full. Embracing the unconscious in full translates into full consciousness, in which one has full access to all planes of reality that surround Earth and your Solar System. As one has access to all planes of reality, and has integrated the parts of themselves that had fractured in the many falls of the human species upon such planes, the human is restored to full consciousness. As the human is restored to full consciousness, the joyous and harmonious state of being that humanity once knew so very long ago upon Earth is simultaneously restored.
           
      Consciousness is biological. Such a shift in awareness cannot occur unless the biology changes. And it is for this reason that ascension brings forth both biological and energetic changes for the human form, along with all other species upon Earth. It is only as the biology exists in a state of honor that honor can be expressed in full within the human dance.
      • Re: cancel the apocalypse

        Sun, August 13, 2006 - 7:41 PM
        Here, I will try to state what I believe and where I make exceptions to my beliefs.

        Anyway, here are my views/opinions/rants/calls to action - whatever you want to call them.

        I thought the Ragan Fox stopped podcasting would slow down the gay bashing, maybe if he leaves ETHS it will get better.Everytime I have a bad orgasm or stub my toe i’m going to cry out “COOKIE THERMBAUM!!!” Dutch medicine prices aren’t the lowest in Europe, but I just looked on-line and the original Pfizer Zoloft is only a few euro’s more than the generic Sertraline.

        I love your schizophrenic rants but what exactly did Cookie do to you other than being an ugly, wart-faced hook-nosed cunt slut whore and a lesbian skank who uses big black dildos on her clients? It wasn’t really clear what specifically set off the anger. Who even is she? Google turns up jack shit. I’m really curious now.

        *hugs*
        • Re: cancel the apocalypse

          Mon, August 14, 2006 - 8:15 AM
          I have not posted that...
          someone has adopted my screen name and info...

          please note that person had 0 friend and my identiy have 3..

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