http://2012.tribe.net/thread/4720e8ba-ffd6-4311-95c9-f6c00b7c17c3?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://2012.tribe.net/thread/4720e8ba-ffd6-4311-95c9-f6c00b7c17c3#da633226-84a5-47a3-9b30-038dfd12d90b you can get a feel for what was going on this afternoon at the protest if you read the live twitter posts i picked up and put in this thread - http://uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/650928df-c5fa-4c41-85e2-163cf3453fe1 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:57:30 GMT http://2012.tribe.net/thread/4720e8ba-ffd6-4311-95c9-f6c00b7c17c3#da633226-84a5-47a3-9b30-038dfd12d90b Elo 2009-06-20T17:57:30Z http://2012.tribe.net/thread/4720e8ba-ffd6-4311-95c9-f6c00b7c17c3#2c17a651-ba00-42de-b11b-bc6cea5f6cdb ive just emailed the video clip to the BBC asking them to play it on the news. Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:55:39 GMT http://2012.tribe.net/thread/4720e8ba-ffd6-4311-95c9-f6c00b7c17c3#2c17a651-ba00-42de-b11b-bc6cea5f6cdb Elo 2009-06-20T17:55:39Z http://2012.tribe.net/thread/4720e8ba-ffd6-4311-95c9-f6c00b7c17c3#e402ecf3-5926-4d54-934c-8845b986e398 they almost definatly rigged the results Wil, they anounced them in just 2 hours and analysts say it would be impossible to count them in that time, and normal Iranian protocol is to waite 3 days before the announce the winner, they were well over 100% of voters supposedly voted in many districuts (!), and in Mousavis home town Amerdinjad was supposed to get more than twice his votes which is impossible. Right now they are killing them, droping boliing water with chemical agents in from helicopters onto the heads of protestors in the crowds and shooting live rounds. This is a clip of a woman dieing, be warned its very disturbing - http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=200249100507&ref=mf Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:55:03 GMT http://2012.tribe.net/thread/4720e8ba-ffd6-4311-95c9-f6c00b7c17c3#e402ecf3-5926-4d54-934c-8845b986e398 Elo 2009-06-20T17:55:03Z http://2012.tribe.net/thread/4720e8ba-ffd6-4311-95c9-f6c00b7c17c3#35d37dc9-6fd7-46e8-9dbf-daa6ad2f53ba I heard a really good analysis on this on Diane Rehm show yesterday. I am really surprised at how clumsy the govt has been in rigging this, as well as impressed with the technical abilities of iranians. I had been thinking that maybe the many millions of country folk voted for the status quo, but from what i heard this is not likely. Farmers were really pissed. They even had mousavi losing in tabriz, his home town where he is very popular. The results are really a stinging insult to the intelligence of iranians. Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:12:39 GMT http://2012.tribe.net/thread/4720e8ba-ffd6-4311-95c9-f6c00b7c17c3#35d37dc9-6fd7-46e8-9dbf-daa6ad2f53ba wil 2009-06-20T16:12:39Z http://2012.tribe.net/thread/4720e8ba-ffd6-4311-95c9-f6c00b7c17c3#15c0984f-5e02-4295-b695-b53ef402754d See how these developments are making it clearer that the struggle in the world is not now east vs west or north vs south or left vs right in the usual sense, but instead between those who worship old authoritarian clannish dog gods who play favorites with clannish distinctions between chosen and unchosen , believer and infidel, heathen or whatever and those who are ready to move into a new world order of shared values of basic justice and freedom for all. Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:18:18 GMT http://2012.tribe.net/thread/4720e8ba-ffd6-4311-95c9-f6c00b7c17c3#15c0984f-5e02-4295-b695-b53ef402754d wil 2009-06-20T12:18:18Z http://2012.tribe.net/thread/4720e8ba-ffd6-4311-95c9-f6c00b7c17c3#2bcfcc8a-d76b-499f-a4a1-c7198ce56020 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va5fmth9gJA&eurl=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/13/iran-demonstrations-viole_n_215189.html&feature=player_embedded Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:47:53 GMT http://2012.tribe.net/thread/4720e8ba-ffd6-4311-95c9-f6c00b7c17c3#2bcfcc8a-d76b-499f-a4a1-c7198ce56020 Elo 2009-06-20T10:47:53Z http://2012.tribe.net/thread/4720e8ba-ffd6-4311-95c9-f6c00b7c17c3#c7fb2160-4ae1-4d39-aee6-1fd4554a77dd <“I will participate in the demonstrations tomorrow. Maybe they will turn violent. Maybe I will be one of the people who is going to get killed. I’m listening to all my favorite music. I even want to dance to a few songs. I always wanted to have very narrow eyebrows. Yes, maybe I will go to the salon before I go tomorrow! There are a few great movie scenes that I also have to see. I should drop by the library, too. It’s worth to read the poems of Forough and Shamloo again. All family pictures have to be reviewed, too. I have to call my friends as well to say goodbye. All I have are two bookshelves which I told my family who should receive them. I’m two units away from getting my bachelors degree but who cares about that. My mind is very chaotic. I wrote these random sentences for the next generation so they know we were not just emotional and under peer pressure. So they know that we did everything we could to create a better future for them. So they know that our ancestors surrendered to Arabs and Mongols but did not surrender to despotism. This note is dedicated to tomorrow’s children…” - an Iranian blogger, with more courage than most of us will ever know.> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKUZuv6_bus&eurl=http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2009/jun/20/iran-unrest&feature=player_embedded Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:47:33 GMT http://2012.tribe.net/thread/4720e8ba-ffd6-4311-95c9-f6c00b7c17c3#c7fb2160-4ae1-4d39-aee6-1fd4554a77dd Elo 2009-06-20T10:47:33Z