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Sun, May 4, 2008 - 7:56 PMAlex Jones and Tim Ball, definitely controversial stuff. Alex Jones seems to have his finger pretty well established on the pulse of the elite agenda.
CO2 is a devil gas, what's next, H20? Dihydrogen Monoxide!
I think its great that these guys are asking the question as to what is behind Al (noah) Gores agenda with all this CO2 global warming rhetoric.
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Sun, May 4, 2008 - 11:28 PMhow about the proposal that the combination of our planet's flying through new outer space AND human behavior combined is causing the problem....
you cannot honestly tell me that you don't think all the cars, factories, etc. etc. etc. are not hurting the planet's delicate balance....?!! this is just another excuse for people to go on living the way they've always lived with an "oh well, we're not really causing the problem" kind of attitude that just keeps adding to the problem through laziness and denial.....
kind of reminds me of the illogical reasons why fundamentalist Christians believe the earth is only 6,000 years old....ugh....i'm tired of head in sand dwellers -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 3:12 AMyes, i admit that pollution is a problem, but is not the cause of global warming which doesnt even exist, the earth has cooled and warmed throught the ages, it's part of the process, according to this guy who the media and the place he was working at fired him for not being willing to work with this agenda and with al gore, the earth had much more carbon dioxide about a thousand years back, but now the vegetation is actually mal-nutritioned from lack of co2.....stick to the subject and stop trying to lead the conversation elswhere, the subject is the hoax of global warming not pollution. so what are you saying, that global warming is not a hoax and you take al gore's propaganda as truth?
do you even know what dihydrogen monoxide is? i hope you actually took the time to listen to the speakers instead of trying to tell us what you believe. -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 4:04 AMIt doesn't look like there was more CO2 in the atmosphere about a thousand years back on this graph in wikipedia. Instead, there looks to be a tight correlation between CO2 and temperatures. Take a look:
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 12:29 PMTim Ball, the climatologist, says that the increased CO2 is a result of rising temperatures. There is a corolation but its a question of whether co2 is the horse or the carriage.
Global warming seems to be a problem with all the planets in the solar system, btw. I think that blaming global warming and climate change on pollution is a diversion from something even more profound relating to the changes inheriant to our sun and solar sytem.
I'm also more concerned about deforestation than i am about co2 emissions. Plants work more efficiently with higher levels of co2. Plants can take up to 1300 ppm or so of co2 and ambiant c02 is around 330 ppm. if co2 levels fall below 250pm plants start become in effect malnurished. co2 is necessary for life and now it carries a negitive connotation thanks to Gore et al.
Focusing on co2 is kind of bizarr. Its my impression that co is more of a concern. Also consider the ineffiecnt combustion processes involved in our utilization of fossil fuels. An incomplete process ends up spewing large amounts of unused petrolium out the exaust. co2 as given off by combusting natural gas is considered a clean alternative, for instance. -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 12:41 PMDo you have any figures on warming on the other planets that is from a scientific instead of a channeled source? -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 6:32 PMI never claimed to be a channeler. Hell i dont even own a tv. ;p
Google, dont gigle...
www.redicecreations.com/specia...ng.html
www.infowars.com/articles/...arming.htm
www.enterprisemission.com/_arti...t2.htm
Most have referances to Nasa's jpl website...
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 6:53 PMAll those links seem to be part of the conspiracy disinfo noise machine and not credible. that sure seems a tiny percentage for the Sun to increase. The links back to NASA said "could" or "may" at critical points. I'm still looking into Titan. I just learned that it is partly heated by tidal forces from other gas giants, or at least that's what i think it said. Not very much hard evidence for claims that i must have seen repeated a thousand times. I'm thinking it's mostly from chanelled info. -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 9:50 PMSorry wil, guess we'll have to speculate what the data taken from planets in our solar system means then.
The "could" or "may" could be critical, but may go either way...
I think there is some truth in the claim, i'll look deeper, in time. I think that there is probably more evidence to make a claim that the solar system is undergoing climate change then there is to support co2 as a rulling factor in our climate change.
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 3:13 AMyeah lol, it's always good to questioned things, especially if big corporations, the mass media and idiots like al gore are supporting it -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 3:29 PMno Randy, i just think you think Al Gore is an idiot, and i don't
did you actually SEE the movie documentary he put out "Inconvienient Truth"? or are you just swallowing what Alex Jones tells you as well, without ever having listened to or seen the other side?
i'm just sayin'...most people (my brother included) are on this type of thinking "global warming is hype"...and have never bothered to even watch the doc. just because they think Gore is an idiot....
i'm not trying to "change the subject"....i just think it's irresponsible to flatout deny global warming, when you can watch and observe huge ice glaciers breaking off in chunks and huge climate changes....sure the earth may go through "these changes" on a natural, cyclical cycle, I AM NOT DENYING THAT.....i just think it's irresponsible to ignore our role as humans in speeding up the process....i.e. chopping down whole forests (the earth's "lungs"), destroying ecosystms, destroying villages of people who have lived in harmony with the earth, etc......all things are connected, and actions that go "against life" tend to have a horrible snap-back effect -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 6:54 PMgoing to extremes and saying that humans are the problem is pretty messed up, which is al gores stance, he encourages Pantheism, the worship of the earth and that humans are the disease on this planet, not only that, he is gaining so much money and wealth on this whole thing, he is making a profit off the gullability of the sheeple.....
www.youtube.com/watch
www.youtube.com/watch
Helena Blavatsky 1831 Pantheism used to justify the dictatorship of a ruling elite,it also tied into agendas such as eugenics/bioethics,population control,radical environmentalism. Pantheistic earth worship is promoted at the highest level of the environmental movement.
16 point plan for humanity:written by Stephen Rockefeller and Mikhail Gorbachev,has been placed in a 500 pound chest called the The Ark Of Hope.
New Ager Barbara Marx Hubbard states the spiritual elite will have to kill off one half of the population in order to evolve humanity to the next level: 'We are in charge of God's selection process for Planet Earth. He selects, we destroy. we are the riders of the pale horse,Death'. Hubbard was a former member of the Presidential Committee on National Curriculum and Democratic Party nominee for Vice-President in 1984.
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LOYALTY CARDS FOR ALL,WHAT A GREAT GOVERNMENT TO MAKE LIFE SO CONVENIENT! (yea right)
On the horizon,the consultants say,is the day RFID chips would allow shoppers to leave the store without checking out at all and get the bill on their credit card or store account. Stores across the world already track consumer purchases with opt-in Loyalty Cards. Using RFID to register sales of regular checkouts would force people to use the Loyalty Cards in order to pay for their goods. Anonymous purchases would become of the past. Potential for RFID technology to be used to prescribe or proscribe what people can buy can be seen in the proposed "Fat Tax" whereby sales taxes would be imposed on foods considered to cause obesity. The RFID system could be used to stop people purchasing too many of these items. The ''Fat Tax'' idea is backed by major scientific and environmental organizations such as Worldwatch and the center for science in the Public Interest and scientists writing British Medical Journal. the new Youth Dialogue Youth Cards were introduced in October 2003.
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THE GLOBAL WARMING SCAM
Whilst there are many real and serious environmental problems,man-made global warming is a contrived political issue. The end of earth scenarios linked to global warming have been successful in mobilizing public opinion in favor of reducing industrial activity in order to cut CO2 emissions. However,an independent petition organized by the Oregon Institute For Science and Medicine signed by 17,000 independent scientists state that increased CO2 levels do not cause deleterious changes in climate or weather; indeed they lead to increased plant growth.
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 6:56 PMthe first video for the u tube thing is the bottom one lol, i forgot to organize it -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 6:58 PMExxon Plays Greenpeace
... Like a Fine Violin
www.policestateplanning.com/id52.htm
Global Warming:
Dr. Art Robinson interviewed on Radio Liberty 7th February 2005
www.policestateplanning.com/glob...g.htm
Chemtrail Correspondence:
www.policestateplanning.com/chem...e.htm
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 7:00 PMLOYALTY CARDS FOR ALL,WHAT A GREAT GOVERNMENT TO MAKE LIFE SO CONVENIENT! (yea right)
www.policestateplanning.com/chap..._.htm
LOYALTY CARDS
On the horizon, the consultants say, is the day when RFID chips would allow shoppers to leave the store without checking out at all and get the bill on their credit card or store account. Stores across the world already track consumer purchases with opt-in loyalty cards. Using RFID to register sales instead of regular checkouts would force people to use the loyalty cards in order to pay for the goods. Anonymous purchases will become a thing of the past. Potential for RFID technology to be used to prescribe or proscribe what people can buy can be seen in the proposed "Fat Tax" whereby sales taxes would be imposed on foods considered to cause obesity. The RFID system could be used to stop people purchasing too many of these items. The "fat tax" idea is backed by major scientific and environmental organizations such as WorldWatch and The Center for Science in the Public Interest and scientists writing in the British Medical Journal.(62)(63) The new Dialogue Youth cards were introduced in October 2003 at the new super-campus incorporating three schools in Midlothian, Scotland, comprising Dalkeith High School, St David's High and Saltersgate school for children with special needs. The use of the cards to monitor eating habits is the latest initiative introduced to fight rising levels of obesity amongst children. The photo ID card is part of a cashless system in the dining areas. Once pupils have topped up the cards with credit, IT systems at the school will be able to record every purchase a pupil makes from the schools' canteen, cafe and vending machines. Those who choose salads and other healthy options will be rewarded with discounts or privileged access to activities.(64)
And who knows, the intelligence services who have access to supermarket databases might decide that your loyalty card needs to be invalidated because their data-mining software has determined that you are a potential terrorist or criminal. If you adjust your behaviour then you may find your loyalty card comes back on-line.
In step with the loyalty card database is the pronouncement by U.S. Postal Service that they are going to end anonymous use of the postal service due to the anthrax mailings in October 2001. The impetus for this move came directly from a Presidential commission, which recommended that USPS introduce sender identification for every item of mail.(65)The investigation of the anthrax mailings by Dr. Leonard Horowitz and Michael Ruppert found that the Government itself was the likely culprit, showing once again how the problem-reaction-solution play is being used to manipulate policy-makers and public opinion into accepting the police state. (66)(67) -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 7:04 PMNew Ager Barbara Marx Hubbard states the spiritual elite will have to kill off one half of the population in order to evolve humanity to the next level: 'We are in charge of God's selection process for Planet Earth. He selects, we destroy. we are the riders of the pale horse,Death'. Hubbard was a former member of the Presidential Committee on National Curriculum and Democratic Party nominee for Vice-President in 1984.
www.policestateplanning.com/chap...3.htm
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 7:04 PMwww.policestateplanning.com/chap...3.htm
New Ager Barbara Marx Hubbard states the spiritual elite will have to kill off one half of the population in order to evolve humanity to the next level: 'We are in charge of God's selection process for Planet Earth. He selects, we destroy. we are the riders of the pale horse,Death'. Hubbard was a former member of the Presidential Committee on National Curriculum and Democratic Party nominee for Vice-President in 1984.
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 7:06 PMoops, sorry for the double lol -
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Re: Dr.Tim Ball On The Alex Jones Show: Global Warming Scam!
Mon, May 5, 2008 - 7:07 PMHelena Blavatsky 1831 Pantheism used to justify the dictatorship of a ruling elite,it also tied into agendas such as eugenics/bioethics,population control,radical environmentalism. Pantheistic earth worship is promoted at the highest level of the environmental movement.
16 point plan for humanity:written by Stephen Rockefeller and Mikhail Gorbachev,has been placed in a 500 pound chest called the The Ark Of Hope.
www.policestateplanning.com/chap...3.htm
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 7:18 PMlittle flower, you should read all the info before you start trying to argue to the contrary.
you cant really claim to know that the ice is melting and that its not natural, you haven't been there, and your relying on 2nd hand info that can be twisted and decieve ppl, how do you know that al gore isnt just another puppet? and before you try to turn what i just said around against me, i am just simply presenting the info aswell, i haven't been to the arctic, and until you actually see it for yourself you dont really know that this al gore is being honest or that any of the big corporations are either.....but you know what? that is one of the things im going to actually do, go there myself and find out for myself, until then im keeping all the info i can find in the files of my mind.
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 8:28 PM"New Ager Barbara Marx Hubbard states the spiritual elite will have to kill off one half of the population in order to evolve humanity to the next level"
If that's true (which seems unlikely), then who are the "spiritual elite" that will be doing all the killing? New Age neo-Fascists?
This idea of "intentional evolution" isn't Darwinian evolution, but Social Darwinism (something similar to what Hitler tried to accomplish).
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 8:55 PMlike i said above, i am only presenting the info.
so have you been to the arctic? or are you just saying these things from belief and 2nd hand info? and no i havent seen it, yet, but i will. so you cannot disprove or prove global warming
hmmmm, you guys are so busy looking at co2 and saying that dihydrogen monoxide is bad, which dihydrogen monoxide really is another term for water, but you guys dont even try and consider the sun that has a great affect on the planet, the sunspots have cooled down, and with every cooling down of sunspots the earth cools aswell, its part of the process, and the process of reaction of electro-magnetic fields, this whole campaign on global warming is a bit exagerated.
look around you, they are already doing it, doing the killing, its not that hard to manipulate ppl into killing other ppl and to get them to buy into crap that will kill them, dumb them down, which having a more passive-placid people toghether with making them stupider, to which the dumbed down ppl will stupidly deny that they have not become dumber and are on the contrary smarter,lol.
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 8:32 PMWith a photo of black helicopters AND a plug for Ron Paul on the homepage, doesn't this site seem just a bit cliché?
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 8:58 PMso what are you saying mr hoopes? that the government and the elite have your best intrest in mind? lol. -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 9:14 PMThat depends. Which government and which elite did you have in mind? -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 9:21 PMis there any other? why would you even want to have a leader, be your own leader, which leads me to wonder.....do you beleive that politics will change anything for the betterment and advancement of humanity? -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 9:35 PMPeople in power conspire to have more power. Believe they have the truth and know how the world should be better than those less fortunate.
I personally have a hard time trusting 'mainstream' dogma on our global condition. It seems that all the stuff they expect us to take as fact serves their agenda.
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 9:59 PMyes, that is very true, but good luck trying to explain it to these people, people will not listen to what they dont want to hear or if it goes against their belief system.....they just dont want to know and its so sad, but what can we do but just let time tell them, but probably even then they will choose to deny and blind themselves just like the religious who preach the endtimes, but when the date of their prophetic time came and then went they made up another excuse saying that it wasnt the right time. lol.
just like this quote says:
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear."
so the only thing you can do is just search these things for yourself, obtain self knowledge and knowledge, wisdom and truths, and let the idiots be idiots, becuase all this crap is just a big charade game, a stage show, but when you go to the back stage things are alot different then what you were told.....the truth that "they" and others can claim to have are dead truths, living truth cannot be claimed, for it is always changing....
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i hope you dont mind 2 more qoutes lol, they pretty much drive the points home:
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"Truth has no path. Truth is living and, therefore, changing. Awareness is without choice, without demand, without anxiety; in that state of mind, there is perception. To know oneself is to study oneself in action with another person. Awareness has no frontier; it is giving of your whole being, without exclusion. Truth is a pathless land. When there is freedom from mechanical conditioning, there is simplicity. The classical man is just a bundle of routine, ideas and tradition. If you follow the classical pattern, you are understanding the routine, the tradition, the shadow — you are not understanding yourself."
~Bruce Lee~
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"To put and end to this sorrow, to hunger, to war, there must be psychological revolution and few of us are willing to face that. We will discuss peace, plan legislation, create new leagues, the United Nations and so on; but we will not win peace because we will not give up our position, our authority, our money, our properties, our lives. To rely on others is utterly futile; others cannot bring us peace. No leader is going to gives us peace, no government, no army, no country. What will bring peace is inward transformation, which will lead to outward action. Inward transformation is not isolation, is not withdrawal from outward action. On the contrary, there can be right action only when there is right thinking and there is no right thinking when there is no self-knowledge. Without knowing yourself, there is no peace."
~Krishnamurti~
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 10:13 PMI think we all need to be on gaurd, because we can be decieved by ourselves as well as others. Everything is so uncertain and in question these days.
But they say you need to believe in something...
I like this topic because it calls to question something that is being trumpeted as a good cause. There is a great deal of opposition to entertaing the notion by the liberal minded eco friendlys and it seems like such common knowlege. But again, its a manipulation of peoples limitied understanding of science and climatology. How many people are SURE that co2 is causing global warming?
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 10:30 PMyes that is very true aswell, how can we ourselves know that we aren't decieved, this whole smokescreen of confusion wasn't created by accident, made by very intellgent ppl who are very good at what they do, which is to confuse, divide and conquer and dominate us all, and proclaime themselves rulers of us all.....
this is what i keep asking people, how do you "know"? and they tell me because someone else of authority said so, they dont even question it or try to look into themselves and experiment with this "evil" co2, and then they say that "well, we're not scientists...", damnit, it doesnt take a damned peice of paper to tell you that it is possible to think criticaly and find out for yourself.
im not sure they even stuck around long enough to listen to the whole thing.....
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 10:05 PMThe conspiracy theories are little bit out of control today. The most important skill when filtering through the cyberjunk is probably what Hoopes advocated so much; critical thinking. Overloading people with disinfo and hogwash is one of the primary objectives of the Brave New World.
On the other side, there are conspiracies. Most likely you're not going to watch a Google video about these operations. I'd say, the most "secretive" videos are probably trying to distort what really happened. I believe that 911 was a conspiracy. An Opus Magnum.
The goal is to maintain chaos and disorder. Anything , that will prevent people to get back into their natural identity.
There is no State and certainly no government anymore. The criminal organizations ("parties") that took over have nothing to do with governments or governing whatsoever. George Bush is the greatest symbol of the new century; a mumbling idiot who wasn't elected, but accepted by a nation as a leader. It happened before, just look up the history of European sovereigns who inherited the throne but they where nothing more than mere puppets of unseen forces- some of them couldn't even read or write.
Also, the word "elite" is very pejorative. Yes, we can say that the Rockefellers and Rothschilds are "elites" but what kind of elites? They have wealth and influence but no consciousness. And after all, how can one be an elite without consciousness? -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 10:16 PMyes, you do have a point there, and i agree that the "real" work is being done by groups and ppl that no one has ever or ever will hear of.
but hell, the whole point of this post is that you cant really claim to know this or that if you havent even seen for yourself, how can ppl claim to know that co2 is bad and that like i said before dihydrogen monoxide(water) is bad and a poison just because al gore or other "scientists" saying that its true? why arent they paying attention to the sun's influence on the earth?
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 10:19 PMare there really other factions of "elite" that don't look at humans as pathetic and irrelevant creatures that only deserve to be dumbed down and slowly integrated into a system to make them slaves? -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 10:41 PM>>saying that humans are the problem is pretty messed up, which is al gores stance,
it seems to be your stance too, R,...only in your scenario, it's the govt. and the elite (humans = people)
>>he encourages Pantheism, the worship of the earth and that humans are the disease on this planet,
yeah, i have no problem with this personally....i AM an earth worshipper,...but i have to disagree...i don't think Gore is! he's a good ole' boy Christian if i ever saw one! and they abhor the concept of pantheism!
>>you cant really claim to know that the ice is melting and that its not natural,
i never said it wasn't natural, i just think we're adding to the problem, and by problem i mean, melting ice caps swallowing up huge amounts of coastline
>>so have you been to the arctic? or are you just saying these things from belief and 2nd hand info? and no i havent seen it,
no, R, i haven't been to the arctic....that's why people make MOVIES....ya know, like the one Leo DiCaprio made about the 11th Hour? i'm sure you haven't seen that one either.....cameras don't lie....i've seen tons of footage, and i don't have the $ to go there myself (bully for you if you can afford such a trip! say hello to the drowning polar bears while your'e there!).....i'm thankful that other people who are concerned about the issues we've been observing cropping up over the globe have the resources to go there and FILM.....what a concept!
so, R, you never answered my question....and by not answering you probably answered it....you probably never even bothered to watch Gore's doc. to "check out the info for yourself", yet you sit here and argue the contrary, just like you're chastizing me for......i'm not trying to jump your case, i just wanna say, turn off the talk radio for awhile and poke around a little on your own....you and i actually don't disagree about everything.....in fact that whole concept about the CO2 providing more nourishment for plants is intriguing....i just wish i didn't know that forests being chopped down and ecosytems polluted don't help plant life in general either.... -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 10:57 PMhmmmmm, "seems", which isnt true lol. yes, and these ppl want to dominate and be rulers of us all.....dont you have a problem with that?
why should worship anything? just "be" and let be
no, i havent seen these movies, but i have seen enough movies and film making industries in action to know that they can alter and change things, and edit whatever they'd like, and also add in special affects and make things look alot more different then they really are.....until you've actually seen it yourself, you cannot claim to "know" anything....and lack of funds is just another damned excuse....i dont have funds right now but i will see it for myself one way or another
.......can you stop bringing irrelevent subjects to this whole point like tree choppings and pollution, i already addressed this earlier
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