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It looks as if we may soon see the greatest of the Aztec emperors: Ahuitzotl (1486-1502). He was a New World contemporary of Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519) who is known for military conquests that expanded Aztec territory. He also supervised the growth of Teochtitlán, the Aztec capital, and reportedly oversaw massive human sacrifices during a rededication of the Great Temple.
Tomb of Aztec Emperor May Lie in Mexico
The Associated Press
Thursday, November 16, 2006; 11:19 PM
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...pf.html
MEXICO CITY -- Mexican archeologists are investigating if the tomb of an Aztec emperor lies beneath a recently excavated stone monolith depicting a fearsome god.
It would be the first burial site ever found of a leader of the 1427-1521 Aztec empire, said archaeologist Eduardo Matos Thursday.
Matos, who leads the excavation project at the Templo Mayor ruins in Mexico City's main square, said a date carved on the stone suggests it contains the remains of emperor Ahuizotl, the father of Moctezuma, the Aztec ruler defeated by the Spaniards.
"We think this could be a gravestone covering the place where this ruler was laid to rest," Matos said, as he showed reporters the carved face of the stone for the first time since it was discovered Oct. 2.
The stone was unearthed at the foot of the western face of the Templo Mayor, the Aztecs' main religious site.
Researchers have spent more than a month removing dirt and stones covering the 13-foot monolith. They hope to begin excavating the fractured stone itself to explore a shallow pit that lies beneath it.
Carvings on the stone show Tlaltecuhtli, an Aztec god was so fearsome the Aztecs normally buried her depictions face-down in the earth.
© 2006 The Associated Press
From today's L.A. Times:
Mexico ruins may hold Aztec leader
From Times Staff and Wire Reports
November 18, 2006
www.latimes.com/news/natio...44503.story
Mexican archeologists are investigating whether the tomb of an Aztec emperor lies beneath a recently excavated stone monolith depicting a fearsome god.
It would be the first burial site ever found of a leader of the Aztec empire, archeologist Eduardo Matos said Thursday. Matos, who leads the excavation project at the Templo Mayor ruins in Mexico City's main square, said a date carved on the stone suggests it contains the remains of emperor Ahuizotl, the father of Moctezuma, the Aztec ruler defeated by the Spaniards. The stone was unearthed at the foot of the western face of the Templo Mayor, the Aztecs' main religious site.
From Richard Townsend's book "The Aztecs":
www.amazon.com/Aztecs-Ric...0500281327/
"The rededication of this looming structure [the Templo Mayor] was seized by Ahuizotl as an opportunity to reaffirm the imperial mission, staging a sacrifice that would forever remain the most terrifying occasion in the ritual life of Tenochtitlan. Prisoners of war were lined along the length of the causeways into the city, and in numbers entirely unprecedented the sacrifices continued for four days. Appalled ambassadors from foreign nations were summoned to witness the dreadful slaughter, and the population of Tenochtitlan stood in awe in the plazas facing the pyramid. Sreams of blood poured down the stairway and sides of the monument, forming huge pools on the white stucco pavement. The accounts of the descriptions were recorded by Spanish historians. Ahuizotl had turned the image of sacrifice into an overtly political lesson, to instill terror in the hearts of enemies and to inure the sensibilities of his own population to new thresholds of violence. The renewal of the building and the idea of ritually nourishing the sun and the earth were now used to affirm the renewal of Tenochtitlan's warlike intentions" (p. 100).
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Tomb of Aztec Emperor May Lie in Mexico
The Associated Press
Thursday, November 16, 2006; 11:19 PM
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...pf.html
MEXICO CITY -- Mexican archeologists are investigating if the tomb of an Aztec emperor lies beneath a recently excavated stone monolith depicting a fearsome god.
It would be the first burial site ever found of a leader of the 1427-1521 Aztec empire, said archaeologist Eduardo Matos Thursday.
Matos, who leads the excavation project at the Templo Mayor ruins in Mexico City's main square, said a date carved on the stone suggests it contains the remains of emperor Ahuizotl, the father of Moctezuma, the Aztec ruler defeated by the Spaniards.
"We think this could be a gravestone covering the place where this ruler was laid to rest," Matos said, as he showed reporters the carved face of the stone for the first time since it was discovered Oct. 2.
The stone was unearthed at the foot of the western face of the Templo Mayor, the Aztecs' main religious site.
Researchers have spent more than a month removing dirt and stones covering the 13-foot monolith. They hope to begin excavating the fractured stone itself to explore a shallow pit that lies beneath it.
Carvings on the stone show Tlaltecuhtli, an Aztec god was so fearsome the Aztecs normally buried her depictions face-down in the earth.
© 2006 The Associated Press
From today's L.A. Times:
Mexico ruins may hold Aztec leader
From Times Staff and Wire Reports
November 18, 2006
www.latimes.com/news/natio...44503.story
Mexican archeologists are investigating whether the tomb of an Aztec emperor lies beneath a recently excavated stone monolith depicting a fearsome god.
It would be the first burial site ever found of a leader of the Aztec empire, archeologist Eduardo Matos said Thursday. Matos, who leads the excavation project at the Templo Mayor ruins in Mexico City's main square, said a date carved on the stone suggests it contains the remains of emperor Ahuizotl, the father of Moctezuma, the Aztec ruler defeated by the Spaniards. The stone was unearthed at the foot of the western face of the Templo Mayor, the Aztecs' main religious site.
From Richard Townsend's book "The Aztecs":
www.amazon.com/Aztecs-Ric...0500281327/
"The rededication of this looming structure [the Templo Mayor] was seized by Ahuizotl as an opportunity to reaffirm the imperial mission, staging a sacrifice that would forever remain the most terrifying occasion in the ritual life of Tenochtitlan. Prisoners of war were lined along the length of the causeways into the city, and in numbers entirely unprecedented the sacrifices continued for four days. Appalled ambassadors from foreign nations were summoned to witness the dreadful slaughter, and the population of Tenochtitlan stood in awe in the plazas facing the pyramid. Sreams of blood poured down the stairway and sides of the monument, forming huge pools on the white stucco pavement. The accounts of the descriptions were recorded by Spanish historians. Ahuizotl had turned the image of sacrifice into an overtly political lesson, to instill terror in the hearts of enemies and to inure the sensibilities of his own population to new thresholds of violence. The renewal of the building and the idea of ritually nourishing the sun and the earth were now used to affirm the renewal of Tenochtitlan's warlike intentions" (p. 100).
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Re: 2006: The Return of Ahuitzotl
Sun, November 19, 2006 - 8:47 AMMore on Tlaltecuhtli, the deity depicted on the huge monument being excavated in Mexico City:
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Sun, November 19, 2006 - 9:07 AMNote that Tlaltecuhtli is a crocodile deity, identified in myths as an Earth goddess who is associated with blood sacrifice and is frequently depicted in the act of giving birth. The deity is preominantly female, but apparently has some male aspects (including her name), alluding to a possible androgynous or hermaphroditic reptilian identity.
atheism.about.com/od/aztecg...cuhtli.htm
There are important themes of birth and creation associated with this deity. A spinning human fetus in the womb was sometimes thought of as a small crocodile, spinning in its watery world. The male removal of hearts in Aztec human sacrifice may have been a metaphor for the midwife's removal of a baby from the womb in the birthing process. Traumatic experience and the copious release of blood in both acts was intimately related and associated with the ongoing creation of the world.
According to one story, Tlaltecuhtli, in the form of a giant crocodile, was seized by Tezcatlipoca and Quetzalcoatl and violently ripped in two. Part of her formed the sky and the other the Earth. Her body became source of streams, rivers, flowers, and trees. The ancient Maya apparently interpreted a portion of the Milky Way with a giant crocodile there is some evidence to suggest that they also saw the Universe as a giant, ravenous crocodile that swallowed the sun, which died in a "bloody" sunset and was rebirthed in a "bloody" sunrise. -
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Re: 2006: The Return of Ahuitzotl
Sun, November 19, 2006 - 10:08 AMinteresting indeed Hoopes, thanks for sharing this
scorpio time, deepening time of tension for many of us
darkened cave time, underworld, hidden moon
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Re: 2006: The Return of Ahuitzotl
Sun, November 19, 2006 - 2:02 PMAhuitzotl was a sonuvabitch. -
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Re: 2006: The Return of Ahuitzotl
Sun, November 19, 2006 - 6:42 PMYes, indeed. Probably the baddest muhfuh in all of Aztec history. Most of the nasty stuff you've heard about the Aztecs was due to him.
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Re: 2006: The Return of Ahuitzotl
Sun, November 19, 2006 - 7:16 PMand he is a She
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Re: 2006: The Return of Ahuitzotl
Sun, November 19, 2006 - 7:29 PMOr at least transgendered.... -
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Re: 2006: The Return of Ahuitzotl
Sun, November 19, 2006 - 7:45 PMOne of the most intriguing titles among Aztec nobility was that of "Cihuacoatl" (literally "snake woman"). This is what the Emperor's second-in-command, right-hand man was called. The guy who served in this position for Ahuitzotl--a kind of Aztec Dick Cheney--was Tlacaelel. The title makes one wonder if he was one fierce drag queen...
Cihuacoatl was also a goddess associated with midwives, sweatbaths, and birthing. She sounds like a kind of Aztec Kali, skull-faced and carrying spears and a shield.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciucoatl
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Re: 2006: The Return of Ahuitzotl
Sun, November 19, 2006 - 7:48 PM***And now they're about to open his tomb... ***
I know you don't have time to consider ghosts, Dr. Hoopes; but there was a foreboding ring in your last sentence here, which gave me one of those hair-raising tremors.
The hairs on the back of my neck portend that lifting this lid may not be the best idea in the world.
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Re: 2006: The Return of Ahuitzotl
Sun, November 19, 2006 - 8:00 PMThat was intentional.
There are reasons why archaeologists can't afford to believe in ghosts, but that doesn't apply to the rest of you.
Here's a story (in Spanish) from Mexico about the giant stone:
www.milenio.com/mexico/milenio/nota.asp
This is one that appeared last month when the carving was first found. At that time, it was described as "the largest Aztec idol ever discovered."
www.zeenews.com/znnew/articles.asp
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Re: 2006: The Return of Ahuitzotl
Sun, November 19, 2006 - 9:01 PMbut Geoffrey, hasn't the lid already been lifted in so many ways? isn't what's showing up excavationally or otherwise more of a mirror of what's already going on with us collectively?
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Re: 2006: The Return of Ahuitzotl
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 9:51 AManyone know anything about (discoverer of Pacal's tomb) Alberto Ruz Lhuillier's thoughts on ghosts or ancient spirits?
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Re: 2006: The Return of Ahuitzotl
Sun, November 19, 2006 - 7:52 PM
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Re: 2006: The Return of Ahuitzotl
Sun, November 19, 2006 - 8:08 PMThis story from CBS (which has a nice photo of one of the goddess' monstrous claws) notes:
"Researchers have spent more than a month removing dirt and stones covering the 4-meter (13-foot) monolith, and hope to begin excavating the fractured stone itself to explore a shallow pit that lies beneath it.
"Matos said a date carved on the stone suggests it contains the remains of emperor Ahuizotl (1486-1502), the father of Moctezuma, the Aztec ruler defeated by the Spaniards.
"Carvings on the stone show the Aztec god of the earth, Tlaltecuhtli, who is depicted as a woman with huge claws, a stream of blood flowing into her mouth as she squats to give birth. Tlaltecuhtli was believed to devour the dead and then give them new life.
"The god was so fearsome the Aztecs normally buried depictions of her face down in the earth. However, this one was found face-up, covered by a layer of stone and mortar placed by the Aztecs.
"In the claw of her right foot, the god holds a rabbit and ten dots, indicating the date "10 Rabbit," or 1502 --the year of Ahuizotl's death."
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Re: 2006: The Return of Ahuitzotl
Sun, November 19, 2006 - 8:40 PMIncredible. In a good way!
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Re: 2006: The Return of Ahuitzotl
Wed, November 22, 2006 - 9:50 PMfunny how the american news focused solely on the fearsome nature of the goddess (as if devouring corpses isn't a poetically accurate description of what the earth actually does) and said nothing whatsoever about ahuilzotl's penchant for genocide.
interesting how that sunovabitch hid behind his mama even in death.
curious to find out what mama did to that corpse.
(btw, think they'll have the tomb opened in time for the opening day of the mel gibson flick?)
and fascinating that this excavation is going on right down the street from the mass protests against the ruling government.
it's like the past, present and future of their civilization(s) are all converging in one moment.
deep.
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