2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl (prolonged)

topic posted Fri, August 4, 2006 - 1:13 AM by  Hoopes
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This thread, with more than 500 messages, lives on as a venue for carrying on about issues relevant to Daniel Pinchbeck's book, "2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl," available from Amazon.com:

www.amazon.com/gp/product/1585424838

Follow these links to go back to its roots:

2012.tribe.net/thread/b18...c0ca52428d4

2012.tribe.net/thread/046...4eeda34f0a7

2012.tribe.net/thread/bb2...aa9b861e67d

2012.tribe.net/thread/bb2...aa9b861e67d

Feel free to contribute to any of these threads or use this one as a way to make the discussion more readily accessible. I only ask that you quote from and name the source of messages to which you're responding so that we don't get hopelessly lost. You may, of course, ignore that request if you're not concerned about linearity or comprehensibility.
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  • Re: 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl (prolonged)

    Sun, August 20, 2006 - 10:27 PM
    Looks as if Daniel's getting some big press next week in Rolling Stone (don't know if it's the cover...) From his Amazon blog:

    Sunday, August 20, 2006
    on the threshold
    12:12 AM PDT, August 20, 2006

    Next week, after holding the article for months, Rolling Stone is publishing a feature article on me (on-sale August 24). I await this with a mingling of excitement and trepidation. For the last years, since I realized the potential magnitude of the importance of the material I was exploring, I have hoped to function as a good messenger and communicator of these difficult ideas to the public. Because of the radical nature of the paradigm I am presenting, I believed that this required scrupulous integrity on my, and have done my best to adhere to that.

    I think that "2012" is pretty rigorous in exposing my own faults rather than holding myself up as some kind of paragon or guru. However, it is one thing to expose your own faults in your own language and your own way, and another to have an outsider come in to do it for you! Above all, I am concerned that the article - which I have not read yet - does not do justice to the book's content and philosophical approach, but sensationalizes and trivializes my perspective instead. In any event, the Rolling Stone piece will bring the concept of a global consciousness shift in relation to the Mayan Calendar end date in 2012 and the post-modern resurgence of shamanism to a much broader audience. It will be interesting to see the results.

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    A beautiful late season crop circle appeared just a few days ago: www.cropcircleconnector.com/2006...lhamp ton/etchilhampton2006b.html
    • Re: 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl (prolonged)

      Tue, September 19, 2006 - 7:17 AM
      There are a couple of other Pinchbeck-related threads that will be of interest to newcomers:

      2012 and the New Psychedelic Elite? Pinchbeck in Rolling Stone
      2012.tribe.net/thread/3af...9f44eaa3333

      Daniel Pinchbeck's forum -- a sad loss
      2012.tribe.net/thread/ad2...056c388a952
      • Newsweek on 2012

        Fri, September 22, 2006 - 10:18 AM
        The current issue of Newsweek covers the 2012 phenomenon - here I am almost the voice of reason, unlike the frothing prophet of psychedelic doom and sleazebag ambitions found in Rolilng Stone.

        MSNBC.com
        Beliefwatch: 12/21/12
        Newsweek

        Sept. 25, 2006 issue - Followers of New Age spirituality have long turned to indigenous religions for wisdom and inspiration, so it has not escaped their notice that something big happens in 2012: the ancient and complex Mayan calendar—studied by astrology, spirituality and history buffs alike—has chugged along for 1,872,000 days, and its cycle stops (and restarts) on Dec. 21, 2012.

        Speculation over the 2012 cycle change has spurred a growing cottage industry. Amazon.com shows more than 100 books on the subject, with titles like "Doomsday 2012" and "2012: You Have a Choice!" A number of spirituality conferences are already convening. This month in New Mexico, spiritual seekers will gather for a "2012 Ascension Symposium," which promises to "offer humanity global reassurance and change the Consciousness of the world"; metaphysics author Geoff Stray is giving a series of lectures on 2012 throughout 2006 and 2007, including at the UFO Conference in Nevada in February and a "Healing Conference" in Jericho, Israel, in May.

        To add to the frenzy, it just so happens that the years building up to 2012 mark an unusual astronomical alignment, one so rare it occurs only in 30 out of every 26,000 years. During this period, the Sun will make its annual crossing of the galactic equator—the plane that bisects the Milky Way as it appears in the sky—on the same day as the winter solstice. So what does all this mean? A small group of doomsayers believe a life-ending cataclysm is on the horizon. Patrick Geryl, a Belgian researcher, says he believes the alignment will trigger a reversal in the magnetic fields of the Sun, causing it to get 10 or 20 times hotter, which will reverse the Earth's rotation on its axis and flood its inhabitants (mainstream astronomers don't agree).

        Meso-American scholars are far less concerned. In Mayan cosmology, time proceeds in cycles—not in a straight line. "The world collapses, but then it gets reborn," says Davíd Carrasco, professor of Latin American religions at Harvard University. (The Maya believe the same thing happens when the Sun rises and sets each day.) Literary-magazine editor Daniel Pinchbeck, author of "2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl," sees the new cycle as an opportunity for personal and spiritual growth. Instead of looking at the completion of the 5,125-year cycle as "the end," Pinchbeck suggests that 2012 "could be more like the birth of the world."

        —Holly Lebowitz Rossi

        URL: www.newsweek.co.uk/id/14868...newsweek/
        © 2006 MSNBC.com
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          Re: Newsweek on 2012

          Fri, September 22, 2006 - 12:19 PM
          Interesting how this topic is slowly creeping into the mainstream.
          The two Calleman lectures in LA next week are also almost sold out.
          Fun times!

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