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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Thu, October 15, 2009 - 6:14 PMMaya shamaness? -
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Fri, October 16, 2009 - 12:41 AMMaya shamaless -
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Mon, November 16, 2009 - 8:02 PMMaya shemales
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Thu, October 15, 2009 - 7:31 PMWow, man this is HARDCORE. Buddhist greeting, pyramids, chakras, mayans, landing UFO on the top of the pyramid...
"Your Patronship supports the revitalizing of indigenous wisdoms and the promotion of peace on Earth." -
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Thu, October 15, 2009 - 10:03 PMI'd go for The Jack Hopper Trilogy myself. -
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 3:10 PM
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Fri, October 16, 2009 - 9:32 AM245 megs... I'll wait a little while although I do like a good guided meditation... Would like to see what they have to offer anyways but will wait for now...
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Fri, October 16, 2009 - 8:26 PMis it expensive? -
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:24 PMYeah, this Tuva fella has made a mistake.
AumRak is Guatemalan, grew up next to Kaminaljuyu (Olmec), has been working and studying with Maya teachers and masters for decades, lives by Atitlan, does alot of healing, ceremony and inspiration, and is widely respected by Guatemalan Mayan people, but is not Maya.
But before the boring 'liberals' further disrespect a woman far more gifted and heart centred than they are, it will be appropriate to point out that unless they actually know AumRak or have met her enough to speak with any authority, then they would do best to shut-up! -
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 2:58 PMif you're after respect for yourself or a 3rd party you might try starting by offering some... ;)
otherwise the interesting 'conservatives' and their gifted heart centred pals might do best to accept other people's right to comment... hahaha -
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 3:51 PMglad to hear that info, Psi......
i myself was worried that it was another come on by the onslaught of new-agers banking on old systems.....even the name (aumrak= om rock?)
thank you.....ok.....
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Mon, November 16, 2009 - 7:04 PMthank you ! here is my responce to the ignorance
AumRak's heritage is of part , significantly , Maya... Mistakes are through assumption of ignorance my friend. bless you all....
if you need to clarify with her yourself. her website is www.aumrak.com. the mediation is available , for now, on a donation basis.
i have worked with AumRak personally on and off since 2002, including being with her in her homeland in guatemala and with respected elders from various Maya Tribes and Communities including various on the Maya High Council of Elders, whom just received their representation in Guatemalan Government.. maybe next time unstead of spewing verbal vomit, you would kindly confer with , ME..... thanks for your "concern"... Mr Psi.. your VERY distant negative energy seems to have a deep emotional source... i HIGHLY recommend the meditation for you. Blessings to you all in the name of Peace and Enlightenment... -
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Mon, November 16, 2009 - 8:04 PM"the Maya High Council of Elders, whom just received their representation in Guatemalan Government"
Are you referring to Don Alejandro Cirilo Perez Oxlaj? "Itinerant Ambassador of the Indigenous Pueblos Mayas, Xinca and Garifuna of Guatemala. and President of the National Council of Elders Mayas, Xinca and Garifuna"? He seems to have had some heavy New Age influence himself. Just how is this constituted? Who does it represent and how?
Here's what Don Alejandro had to say to Aluna Joy about ETs:
"Question: My question is about extra-terrestrials and what the Mayan think about them.
Don A: The members of the council of elders, we have come to realize that there are 3 different types of extra-terrestrials. 1) There are our ancestors, and they come from the constellations of stars, because there is life up there. They come to land on pyramids or volcanoes or the bottom of lakes, and these are our ancestors. 2) There is another type that they are beings from other planets. They come here to Earth. Just like from here they go the moon, or they go to investigate other planets. It is the same. They come here too, and maybe they are even more advanced than us. They could come from Jupiter, but most likely they come from the Pleiades. 3) The 3rd kind are from here, from our own land, from different countries. They are more like spies. They could be from Russia, from the United States, and different countries. The Elders of the Council when they want to find things, they go into session. But the way that they do it, each one takes a place separate from each other. And then each one of them in their own space, go into meditation ... deep, deep meditation, and then they receive all of this knowledge. Then they come together, and they all say what they have seen. Then if everybody sees the same thing, then they say that this is what it is. Thank you."
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Mon, November 16, 2009 - 8:28 PM" I never went to school; not even for a day. I don't have any formal education. But I can only (say?) with certainty that I am following the steps of my ancestors" - Don Alejandro Cirilo Perez Oxlaj
www.spiritofmaat.com/may09/d...age.html
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Mon, November 16, 2009 - 8:10 PM<<i have worked with AumRak personally on and off since 2002, including being with her in her homeland in guatemala>>
whas she born in Guatemala ?
<<and with respected elders from various Maya Tribes and Communities>>
Like ?
<<including various on the Maya High Council of Elders,>>
How well do you know Don Alejandro Oxlaj and what does he think of AumRak's claims ?
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Mon, November 16, 2009 - 8:11 PMTuva, do you know if AumRak is related to archaeologist Karl Sapper?
Karl Sapper
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Sapper
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Mon, November 16, 2009 - 8:35 PMTuva ... why dont you get AumRak' to come and join Tribe and explain to all here (2012 Tribe) how is that one becomes a Melchizedek Priest ?
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 4:12 PM"AumRak is Guatemalan, grew up next to Kaminaljuyu (Olmec)"
AumRak doesn't sound much like either a Mayan or a Spanish name. On Facebook, she uses the name Aumrak Sapper, which suggests German ancestry. (There was German explorer named Karl Sapper who visited and wrote about highland Guatemala in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. I'm curious to know if she's related.)
While there are some Middle Formative monuments at KJ, it is not at all clear that Kaminaljuyu is an "Olmec" site. It was apparently Maya for most of its occupation, which peaked in the Late Preclassic (ca. 500 BC - AD 200) and the Early Classic (AD 200-600) periods, but with possible Teotihuacan (central Mexican) presence and influence.
The ruins that have survived of KJ (a site heavily impacted by development) are located in Guatemala City, the capital of Guatemala, so just about anyone who grew up there can claim that they grew up "next to Kaminaljuyu."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaminaljuyu
www.delange.org/Kaminaljuyu/K1.htm
Here are links to AumRak's blog and Facebook page:
aumrakshaman.blogspot.com
www.facebook.com/pages/Aum...0552128801
"... unless they actually know AumRak or have met her enough to speak with any authority, then they would do best to shut-up!"
Do you think people who don't actually know or have met him should also "shut up" about James Arthur Ray? That attitude precludes discussion about a lot of people, including Barack Obama... -
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 5:03 PMAmazing to see any comparison of AumRak with James Ray (responsible for 2 deaths and many injuries while pretending to know about First Nations practice) or Obama (who is increasing bombing of civilians, is helping to destroy the US economy, is stealing billlions from US tax-payers to reward corruption, whose mentors advocate mass global population reduction while creating a false pandemic and laws to force untested vaccination, etc etc).
So is the suggestion that a peaceful kind and loving woman, who was born and raised in a house over the road next to Kaminaljuyu (I know the house), who does only healing of people, who has indeed worked with Maya masters for decades, is comparable to known criminals? Quite an assertion from an Obama supporter and major debunker!
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 8:27 PM"Amazing to see any comparison..."
Amazing to see how quick you are to totally miss my point, which is that it is absurd to claim that someone should "shut up" if they're tempted to criticize someone they haven't met. You claim that James Ray (who may have been responsible for *three* deaths) was "pretending" to know something about First Nations practice. How do you know that? Do you "actually know" or have you met him so that you can speak with authority?
"you should shut-up because you are a rude little man who does not know what you are talking about!"
And you should shut up because you're a pompous asshole.
Yet again, a worthwhile discussion disintegrates into ad hominems...
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Tue, October 20, 2009 - 2:21 AMYou very wrongly compared AumRak with James Ray and Obama. You know exactly what you were doing and yet defend it!
Anyone who charges vast sums for 'sweat lodge' is a cheat and is pretending to know about First Nations and their traditions. Anyone who causes the deaths of 3 people and injuries to many others, as a direct result of their presumption to know about First Nations and their traditions is liar and a cheat. The statement by Arvol Looking Horse is enough to indicate how serious is the crime of James Ray. Ray is using cultural imperialism and extreme capitalism to benefit from traditions that he has no authority to use. If he had any authority he would have not charged what he did. So talk about "missing the point"!
If you had not compared AumRak to Ray and Obama in your final comment I would have responded quite differently. When I saw a personal friend of mine insulted by ignorant people I defended her.
Few people do even half of what AumRak has done for her community, for Mayan people, for the collective benefit. She deserves respect! -
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Tue, October 20, 2009 - 6:59 AMYou're wrong. I didn't wrongly compare AumRack with James Ray and Obama at all.
What you wrote was:
"But before the boring 'liberals' further disrespect a woman far more gifted and heart centred than they are, it will be appropriate to point out that unless they actually know AumRak or have met her enough to speak with any authority, then they would do best to shut-up."
What I wrote was:
"Do you think people who don't actually know or have met him should also 'shut up' about James Arthur Ray? That attitude precludes discussion about a lot of people, including Barack Obama..."
Then, having said people should "shut-up" unless they actually know or have met the person they are criticizing, you go on about how anyone like James Arthur Ray is a "liar and a cheat." Here are some remarks from someone who says he "actually knows" Ray:
"I worked for James Ray.
I was his right hand man and he taught me a lot.
Most of you have no idea what you're talking about.
He's a good man.
He made a mistake.
He will own up to it.
This is a hard...a damn hard thing to deal with.
James really wanted to help people...and now...2, possibly 3 are dead.
It's a heavy thing.
And some of you people sound so smug with your BS comments.
This guy helped hundreds of thousands of people.
I was there.
I saw what he could do first hand.
We traveled all over the USA and people really love James.
You don't know him or his background.
After a while I just had to quit.
It's not in me to do what he did.
I'm not saying that what he does is wrong...it's just grew tiresome for me.
I wanted to do stand-up.
And I did.
I was nearing semi-fame (hosting New Years eve with Bobby Lee, Pauly Shore, etc...doing the Fox News, about to have a 30 minute Comedy Central Special) but I self-sabotaged and ran from fame.
It's a damn hard thing to handle.
One day you're a barista at Starbucks and then the next you're signing contracts with networks.
You're walking a tight rope and if you fall...everyone scrutinizes you.
James Ray isn't a bad guy. He meant well.
He's a good man.
Peace to all you.
JD"
James Arthur Ray: Guru Says He's Being Tested By Sweat Lodge Deaths
www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/1...67.html
I don't think that's so different from what you're saying about AumRak, who apparently claims to be a "Maya shamaness" when she's not.
You say, "Ray is using cultural imperialism and extreme capitalism to benefit from traditions that he has no authority to use."
AumRak is not? How much does she charge for a workshop?
"AumRak is an internationally acclaimed public speaker, curandera, transpersonal psychotherapist, and High Priestess of Melchisedek who works widely throughout North, Central, and South America, as well as Europe. She has developed diverse artistic shamanic tecniques to reconnect the hidden pathways within, to lead us to a healthy, balanced, clear path in our lives. And trascen-dance."
www.blogger.com/profile/16...45517777146
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Tue, October 20, 2009 - 12:47 AMhow can you blame obama for america...?
america existed before obama and he is just a belated token of redemption...
there is no plausible way he could be "the real thing" or at least most assuredly not in the short term...
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Mon, November 16, 2009 - 7:01 PMAumRak's heritage is of part , significantly , Maya... Mistakes are through assumption of ignorance my friend. bless you all....
if you need to clarify with her yourself. her website is www.aumrak.com. the mediation is available , for now, on a donation basis.
i have worked with AumRak personally on and off since 2002, including being with her in her homeland in guatemala and with respected elders from various Maya Tribes and Communities including various on the Maya High Council of Elders, whom just received their representation in Guatemalan Government.. maybe next time unstead of spewing verbal vomit, you would kindly confer with , ME..... thanks for your "concern"... Mr Psi.. your VERY distant negative energy seems to have a deep emotional source... i HIGHLY recommend the meditation for you. Blessings to you all in the name of Peace and Enlightenment... -
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Mon, November 16, 2009 - 7:47 PMTuva .... i've been around ... including Guate a few times ... I love the place, there is a lot superstision there, a lot of people trying to make a living anyway they can ...
from the website link you posted
"AumRak is an internationally acclaimed public speaker, curandera, transpersonal psychotherapist, and High Priestess of Melchisedek who works widely throughout North, Central, and South America, as well as Europe. She has developed diverse artistic shamanic tecniques to reconnect the hidden pathways within, to lead us to a healthy, balanced, clear path in our lives. And trascen-dance."
any one who call him/herself a High Priestess of Melchisedek is doing some serious misrepresentation by making a claim that can not be backed
plus ... she looks very much like a White Woman not an Indigenous Mayan Woman ... where was she born ? who educated her ?
<maybe next time unstead of spewing verbal vomit, you would kindly confer with , ME>
that does not sound too elevated ...
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Mon, November 16, 2009 - 7:04 PMits by donation and well worth it.. here is my personal responce to the ignorance in this post
AumRak's heritage is of part , significantly , Maya... Mistakes are through assumption of ignorance my friend. bless you all....
if you need to clarify with her yourself. her website is www.aumrak.com. the mediation is available , for now, on a donation basis.
i have worked with AumRak personally on and off since 2002, including being with her in her homeland in guatemala and with respected elders from various Maya Tribes and Communities including various on the Maya High Council of Elders, whom just received their representation in Guatemalan Government.. maybe next time unstead of spewing verbal vomit, you would kindly confer with , ME..... thanks for your "concern"... Mr Psi.. your VERY distant negative energy seems to have a deep emotional source... i HIGHLY recommend the meditation for you. Blessings to you all in the name of Peace and Enlightenment... -
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Mon, November 16, 2009 - 8:26 PMTuva, just to clarify....since you seem to keep posting the same message in response.....i can understand you getting defensive and getting your hackles up about your teacher.....and your connection with her is certainly valid
perhaps you felt it in the spirit of sharing to bring your info here, etc......but some might see that as subtle marketing, and so, it raises their hackles......and so the bickering ensues until everyone feels they know who or what this is about, is it legit, etc.etc........cuz there is certainly alot of ho-ho-new age BS going around these days.......wouldn't you agree?
don't take it too personally........folks here are just mighty protective and investigative
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Mon, November 16, 2009 - 8:52 PMyou're so nice LF :)
these guys aren't looking for healers really, or anyone to give their money to. i'm not speaking for everyone, but you know what i mean. no one wants to pay for marketing, nor be petitioned... its that time now... it seems...
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Mon, November 16, 2009 - 8:55 PMFrom my comment on another thread here, but at least as applicable here:
In Lewis Mumford's "The Pentagon of Power"(1970) he foresaw what the onrushing tsunami of information would do. Here he is on that: "Without... self-imposed restraints the over-production of books will bring about a state of intellectual enervation and depletion hardly to be distinguished from massive ignorance."
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Tue, November 17, 2009 - 12:50 AMyeah... i think titles are starting to get to me. elevators i guess. with all due respect, some things are secret, or should be. i won't say which since its secret. but there are more shamans on the planet than ever and that should be the good news.... i think we must all be one.
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Tue, November 17, 2009 - 7:00 AM"In other words, there would be so much apparent richness of information that people would become progressively poorer in understanding. Sound familiar?"
Like trying to drink from a firehose that's gushing polluted water?
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Tue, November 17, 2009 - 12:47 AMI chilled to crystal flight in the hottub. To be fair, it's quite a pleasant guided journey, she has a really good dialect.
But I like the way that tuva is dissin' on psi, when psi is pretty much the only one here defending her.
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Tue, November 17, 2009 - 8:22 AM<<To be fair, it's quite a pleasant guided journey>>
she might be a nice person, with a great heart and better intentions, but talk is cheap ..... i wanna "see" how it was that Melchizedek made her a Priest !
if she has a website she can logon here .... im sure she can type .... and even from Guatemala you can login to the Inet ... i did quite a few times from a few places .... slow yes, but not hard .... -
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Tue, November 17, 2009 - 11:24 AMShe's also in this documentary about calendars: www.inbetween2worlds.com/
I reckon the top names in the mayan calendar business should do a naked shoot.
I'm also suprised hoopes has conveniently "forgotten" that he met and received a blessing from aumrak when they met up in peru a few years back as this webcam footage can testify: www.youtube.com/watch -
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Wed, November 18, 2009 - 10:23 AM< this webcam footage >>
Rick roll's rock ' n roll ? .... -
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Wed, November 18, 2009 - 10:42 AMhahahaha! We've just been rick rolled.....again.
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Wed, November 18, 2009 - 1:19 PM
AWESOME!!!
Haven't been Rick-rolled in a while.
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Tue, November 17, 2009 - 11:12 AMwell drunvalo melchizedek is big with some mayans and he was ordained at the Alpha and Omega Order of Melchizedek at the Conclave of Michael in Banff, Canada. -
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Wed, November 18, 2009 - 10:19 AM<was ordained at the Alpha and Omega Order of Melchizedek at the Conclave of Michael in Banff, Canada. >>
with 1700 other (mass produced) initiates ?
wich Melchizedek ? Im making reference to one mentioned in the Bible ...
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Wed, November 18, 2009 - 10:28 AMDrunvalo Melchizedek was given the name Bernard Perona when he was born .... -
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Wed, November 18, 2009 - 11:35 AMyeah, melchizedek is old school. whats new now? -
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Re: Maya Shamaness AumRak's "Crystal Flight" Guided Meditation now available for download.
Wed, November 18, 2009 - 12:48 PMRe-aligning our gnostic hyperluminal avatars.
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